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    I am getting so pissed!!!! My auctions got flagged AGAIN!!!!! This was in the email I got from ebay...

    Your listing(s) contains the following information:

    Poles available in black or white, with your choice of colored end caps. (black,
    white, or pink.) So pick the color preference you want and order today!
    Poles available in black or white, with your choice of colored end caps. (black,
    white, or pink.) So pick the color preference you want and order today!


    Users may not use systems or techniques to circumvent, or avoid, eBay fees.
    Listings that circumvent (avoid) fees may provide a poor buying experience and
    create an unlevel playing field by penalizing sellers who pay all of their eBay
    fees. Further, these listings undermine the trust of eBay?s marketplace.A choice
    listing is a listing that allows buyers to choose from a selection of items.
    Choice listings are generally not a permitted.For more information on
    Circumvention of eBay Fees visit the following Help page:



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    OK How in the HELL is this avoiding fees!!! I'm simply saying once it's bought, then choose your color!!! I know who is flagging me and I'm getting sick of it.. What's stupid is that he is also offering colors once the item is bought..so how is mine different???? Should I start flagging his!? I'm trying to be the better business person here and not act like a baby because of competition...but good grief! He is making me waste my time, money and lose CUSTOMERS!!

    I emailed ebay and relisted my auctions with a note to ebay about this saying that I was NOT in violation and that a competitor is throwing a hissy fit about me being able to sell my poles for less. Both of those auctions were to end today!! What an asshole! I mean good god! He sells WAY more than I do, he has their "name" behind him..why can't he leave me alone! I'm selling probably an eighth of what he sells with WAY less profit! DAMNIT!

    I feel like he's wanting me to play dirty?! AAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!



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    eBay is probably insisting that each item you sell come fully assembled or "chosen" with regards to options.

    In otherwords, you can sell:

    1. A black pole with black caps
    2. A black pole with white caps
    3. A black pole with pink caps
    4. A white pole with black caps
    5. A white pole with white caps
    6. A white pole with pink caps

    But you can't sell a ___ pole with ___ caps, and let the winning bidder fill in the blanks with their choices. They want to get a listing fee for each specific item you're selling. It sucks, but that's the way they run things.
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    ok, but that's how the "other" guy does it?? should I start flagging him?? I mean come on!

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    let's do the sting operation, sassysummer. pm me this guy's id, and i'll ask for info about his poles and his competitor's poles. then when he badmouths you, i'll report him. us sw girls gotta stick together!
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    good idea!! lemme know if you want me to help out too
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    Well that sure is messed up ! I guess some pole makers just can't handle the competition coming from your direction

    I sure hope it all works out for you. Keep us informed and let us know if we can help.

    you can't sell a ___ pole with ___ caps, and let the winning bidder fill in the blanks with their choices. They want to get a listing fee for each specific item you're selling. It sucks, but that's the way they run things.
    I don't see how they aren't getting the fee's from each sale of a pole. What difference does it make what color the pole or end caps are chosen by the buyer ? It is still only one pole being sold no matter which color the buyer chooses.

    I really enjoy buying and selling on Ebay so I hate to see people abuse the Ebay site like Summer's competition is doing. Clearly she is selling poles at a lower price than the other guy and so the other pole seller is using dirty tricks to try and get rid of Summer so they don't have to compete with her.

    Obviously Summer's business is the new kid on the block and so some buyers will prefer to spend more on a different pole because the other poles maybe a more tried and true product.

    While other buyers will be will to buy from Summer due to a lower price . It's a buyer beware world and it is unethical for the other pole seller to try to eliminate their competition ( Summer) in this manner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sassysummer
    OK How in the HELL is this avoiding fees!!!
    They may be saying that you're avoiding fees because you are giving them the option of picking the color/style FIRST. They may be thinking that you and the buyer are negotiating OUTSIDE of ebay boundaries and you aren't using ebay to get the sale. Thus, ebay won't get a cut of your money...that may be the reason.

    Also I think it's pretty messed up that this other seller is hating like this. Yes, disclose this name so we can all have our fun with him...







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    Quote Originally Posted by TarynJolie
    I don't see how they aren't getting the fee's from each sale of a pole. What difference does it make what color the pole or end caps are chosen by the buyer ? It is still only one pole being sold no matter which color the buyer chooses.
    Its not the final bid fee that is the issue, its the listing fee. If she effectively has six different pole-cap color combinations, and wants to sell all six, she has to put in a listing for each one. Each listing of course costs money.

    Here is eBay's choice listing policy:
    http://pages.ebay.ie/help/policies/listing-choice.html

    Quote Originally Posted by sassysummer
    ok, but that's how the "other" guy does it?? should I start flagging him?? I mean come on!
    If eBay flagged your auction for that and your competition is indeed doing the same thing, then yes I think you are within your rights to retaliate. There is a report link on the above webpage.
    Last edited by doc-catfish; 01-20-2006 at 01:53 PM. Reason: added link
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    well this day started shitty with this ebay crap...got a little better when I got my new front teeth (had them crowned, yeah), then just got even shittier..I just got back from the derm and she has 5 moles she wants to remove...4 of them looking like melanoma..go me
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    I think you should retaliate. Send me his user ID too, and I'll have some fun with him

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    Default Re: SON OF A BITCH! It's so ON!

    ok, to not get flagged by ebay for having different colors available on one listing, you have to list them as on color, then in the description write that if a different is available upon request. All they want is the technicalities fixed. When your doing that, technically your selling a certain color, but if someone wants to exchange the color for one they prefer, they can. Thats being an good seller.
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    ^^^that sounds like a good compromise. can't you also link to your ebay store and show all of your products? Or is there a way to list a personal website??? that way you can explain the technicality and allow the people to choose their colors?

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    doc..

    Thanks for the link..I saw this in that..

    Exceptions:

    1) Listings may offer custom made items or services that are created or customised to the buyer's specification such as made to order clothing. Other permitted examples include re-sizing of rings or personalised mailing labels. All offered options must be provided at no additional charge to the buyer. Choice of title in software, books, music or movies is not allowed. Choice of size in pre-made items is not allowed.


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    This is exactly what we are doing..a custom made item. We custom the color and the length. If they are going to say I need to have seperate ones for color, then why not seperate ones for length? I mean, they are MADE when they are ordered! Sounds custom to me!

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    quiet ps. get a PS to do your mole excisions. (i wish i did)

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    FUCK!!! Bastard did it again!!

    ok, i can't seem to find out how to flag his auctions....i'm done playing nice. I don't normally "get back" at people, but this is fucking rediculous!

    How do I flag his????????????????????? I can't find it..probably cause I'm so fucking pissed!

    DUEL!!

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    DAMNIT! I found how to report him and the son of a bitch changed HIS auction to not be in violation anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I could just scream! I feel like emailing him and asking why he is such a fucking pussy and won't be a man and confront me instead of hiding behind ebay!

    well fuck him! I'll just copy everything he does so if i go down, he does too!

    like I needed this shit right now..I've got enough to worry about...

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    Take it as a compliment. You are clearly a threat to him !

    Who is this seller anyway ? I'm pretty sure none of here would want to do business with such an asshole.

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    i'm not sure if i should "out" him publicly.. but being in the BIG LONG state that he is in and the fact that the SMALL CAT poles he sells are pretty much the same as the ones I sell, except his come in more COLORS and are more expensive, I think he'd be pretty easy to find

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    i was gonna buy a pole form him before i knoew you were selling ones!!! i'm glad you've enlightened me.
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    YES, flag the other guy. I've had the same thing happen to me. It's a competitor who doesn't want the competition. So if he flags you, you flag him.

    And you'll have to list your items individually by type and color, like Doc said.

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    yeah, but it'll cost me shitloads to list them all seperatly...i've got 2 pole colors (a 3rd coming soon!), and 3 end colors!

    I can't find anything to flag him on anymore, he changed his to make it so you don't choose the color...how convienient that he did that after I put a HUGE note to ebay at the top of my auction regarding choosing colors!

    I think another big reason is because I'm selling the same brand he his, but on my website for cheaper..which coinsidently I just got a note from the corporate saying that they have a new policy on pricing and that it can't deviate something like 5% including shipping from the MSRP... boo fucking hoo...this guy is such a cry baby WAAA

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    Quote Originally Posted by sassysummer
    I feel like emailing him and asking why he is such a fucking pussy and won't be a man and confront me instead of hiding behind ebay!
    Why don't you just email him? I know I would?? Don't just outright call him a pussy though..as much as I know you would like to. Just explain to him that his tactics of trying to get your throw off of ebay are petty, and hold no merrit. Hell, ask him why he feels so threatened by you?







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    Quote Originally Posted by sassysummer
    yeah, but it'll cost me shitloads to list them all seperatly...i've got 2 pole colors (a 3rd coming soon!), and 3 end colors!
    Is it possible for you to just list just one or two of your choices (perhaps the most popular ones), or perhaps alternate them.

    Then send the winning bidder a link to your website, perhaps with some information on what a wonderful pole they bought and that it just happens to come in other color options, and you're more than willing to answer any questions they have about it. Ahem.


    If the winning bidder who won a white pole then asked if you could please change it to a black pole, well...what would be wrong with fulfilling that request? You make a sale, the buyer gets the pole that they want, and eBay gets their fees for the pole that the buyer won in the auction. They won't know that you shipped the buyer something different, and they can't call it a listing violation.

    God knows when I've come in second place on an auction bid list, I've actually e-mailed the seller to see if he/she had more of them and would be willing to sell them for my second place bid. Unless its a really hot item, they're usually more than happy to oblige.
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    you could reword your listing so that your pole isn't offered in a variety of colours, but is instead cutoms made to the buyer's specifications...
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    Oooh good call VoW!!!

    List that colors are custom and the buyer must contact you to pick custom color and length.

    That should get around it, lol!
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