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    After my daughter was born(a year ago now) I went to the ObGYN for my 6 week check up. They thought there was something abnormal and said that I probably had HPV(an extremely common STD that like 1/3 of men and 1/2 of women get at some point, or something like that). Anyhow, they made me come back and get a biopsy taken and sent it away. When they got the results back, everything was negative, so I thought everything was all good. Well, ever since they've been on my ass to come back in every 3 months and get checked out. Well, I was always too nervous to go in because there was a medicine they had given me that I couldnt take since I was nursing and never called to ask what to do (stupid anxiety...postpartum depression or something i guess). So, I never went in to get it checked out, but I did do some research on it and found that it will almost always just go away in younger girls(I'm 19). So...I guess my question is...does anyone know how crucial it is for me to keep getting checked out? Has anyone else had this? What are the risks if I don't get it checked out? Did anyone else just let it go and they were ok? Did anyone let it go and then it got even worse?

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    It can turn to cancer. It's important that you do follow ups.

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    I dont know squat about it but when a biopsy is done I would think that it could have a potential to become serious . I would do what research you can for your next appt and really be assertive with your own questions - get the answers form your doctor . If you dont like your primary Doctor get a second opinion .

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    HPV doesn't just "go away" either. It's a virus. Like herpes. You may never get an outbreak again, but you still have potential to either develope cancer, or pass it to someone else.

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    You are at a higher risk for cervical cancer. By going to these checkups and undergoing the necessary procedures, you can prevent cancer from ever developing. Cancer does not just go away.

    Women who live in developing countries and do not have access to health care like we do are more likely to die from cervical cancer than we are. We have the opportunity to prevent it by spending a few hours a year in the doctor's office.

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    You have to have the HPV warts burned off, or take meds, you should always ge t checked if they are external, there are several different strands of HPV, and most of them disolve, go to webmd, and check it out, but if they are exernal they can be potentially dangerous, take care of it now

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    Well, they definitely aren't external. See I simply had an abnormal papsmear, and when the results from the biopsy came back, everything was fine. I didn't have anything. They just still wanted me to go in every 3 months. Anywho, I did find this one website from the HPV resource center....it will clarify all the myths about it(a few were put on this thread). I recommend for everyone to read it, it really taught me a lot!

    www.ashastd.org/hpv/hpv_learn_myths.cfm
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    Ok this is what I've learned. There are over 100 different types of HPV, the lower risk strands cause gential warts. The higher risk strands do not. Higher risk meaning to cause cancer.

    When you have an abnormal pap, it means you have abnormal cell growth on your cervix, nothing to do with warts. The biopsy them and test them to see how far advanced the growth is. If it came back "negative" that means you are more than likely FINE. If it came back "positive" you would be treated for dysplasia, which is the medical terms for the precancerous growth on the cervix. Or the results would have come back telling you that you have mild dysplasia, moderate dysplasia, or severe dysplasia.

    The three month pap is precautionary to make sure it doesn't get worse.

    It takes a very long time before dysplasia turns into actual cancer. Most cases of dysplasia are caught in the mild state. It wouldn't turn into cancer overnight.

    If it was serious they would have told you and would have already scheduled you for a surgery.

    But you DO need to go to your check ups, you never know what's going on down there. And you WON'T know until it's too late. It's very important to take care of this. After 4 check ups and no abnormal paps they schedule you back to regular once a year check ups.

    It is a virus that can't be cured but most women once treated for dysplasia by having the abnormal cells removed no longer test positive for HPV.

    That's what I know, from my numerous doctors.

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    I had what you had. I had a procedure done where the abnormal cells were burned off of my cervix with a chemical.
    It is probable that untreated abnormal cells on the cervix will devlop into cancer, given enough time. My grandmother died from reproductive organ cancer. I'm guessing that was how she got sick, since she lived in a time & area where there was no health access or medical technology.
    Get it treated, take good care of yourself, and get check-ups. You don't want to find out the hard way whether it was "just nothing" or not.....

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    I know girls, but now I am very nervous to go back to the doc and get lectured, so I think I will change my docs and go for my yearly. Since I learned that it usually will resolve itself overtime, and VERY rarely causes cancer(from the HPV research center), I am not too concerned and figure I will find out if I really have it or not. If, in fact, I do then I will make sure I go to the al the follow-ups.

    MadMaxine~They did not burn the cells because the biopsy came vack saying there were none. I think they jus wanted me to keep coming in just in case. Now I wish i had gone in the first place. Well, I guess you live and learn!
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    Go back to the original doc who knows your history. If she lectures you then, don't put up with it. Find a new doc and let her know why. Also, get copies of your chart, including biopsy results. Good doctors should not lecture. We are not stuck in the paternalistic '50s.

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    Lol, yea youre totally right. Unfortuantely, I know they will lecture me for sure. They've done it to me before, and I hate it.
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    Please read and re-read what Shayden said about dysplasia. I would just like to add though, that is CAN get worse and/or turn to cancer extremely fast.

    In August, my friend's STD tests all came back negative, with a slight abnormality that they said might be HPV. She went back in September for a followup on it. They took a biopsy and went back almost a month later for the results. They said she had mild dysplasia. She had an invasive surgery scheduled for something different a month later and they told her they were going to spray her cervix with this vinegar solution to slow down the dysplasia while they waited to see if cancer was anywhere. By the time she went for surgery in November, the dysplasia had covered 90% of her cervix and is now considerd 'severe dysplasia'.....that's why they took the cone biopsy, which was extremely painful. Her chances of having cancer are extremely high. They're still doing tests and are very worried b/c of how quickly this happened. She's 25






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    Honey- I hear where you're coming from. A year ago, I was your age and contracted chlamydia.

    My doctor told me it was probably because my boy was cheating on me, which was non of her business. Then she treated me like an ignoramus and announced that I should stop thinking you can get it from a toilet seat, a dumb urban legend which I never brought up.

    She disappeared long enough for me to need to get my prescription from her male colleague who told me I was very young to have an STD and asked if I was married.

    So yeah, doctors can be judgemental assholes. And yes, they do think that all young girls need to be lectured, specially the ones with diseases. But it's still necessary to see someone about your health issues. I shudder to think of all the people I could have passed this one on to if I hadn't put up with their shit until I knew I was in the clear. (Once you hit that stage, get away from the bastards!)

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    may sound like strange advice from/to a 'straight girl' - but i go to where the gay doctors are. they are the coolest, non-judgemental bunch of doctors i have ever met. they don't bat an eyelid at anything and wouldn't dream of lecturing.

    i live in the gay capital of my city so they're easy to find for me. it's worth a try if you're sick of being lectured/judged.

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    Shayden, good info. You are correct. If you've had an abnormal pap test go back every 6 months. Unless your doctor advises more frequently like the 3 months. I had an abnormal pap a few years ago, I then had a biopsy and had mild dysplasia. I went in for paps every 6 months. After having 3 abnormals (mild dysplasia) I was just about to get the Leep procedure (where they cut out the abnormal cells). But then I had a normal pap, and now I've had 3 normal paps. So I just make sure I stay on top of the check ups and monitor everything. It can turn into cervical cancer and it's very serious. Stay on top of it, see your doctor. If you are unhappy with your doctor then see another one. But get your pap test and know what is going on with this issue. Don't neglect it.

    A little more info:
    cervical cancer — happens when normal cells in the cervix change into cancer cells. This change normally takes several years to happen, but it can also happen in a very short amount of time. Before the cells turn into cancer, abnormal cells develop on the cervix that can be found by a Pap test. Women generally don't have symptoms of cervical cancer. But when cervical cancer is not found early and spreads deeper into your cervix or to other tissues or organs, you might have pain during sex; bleeding from your vagina after sex, between periods, or after menopause; heavy vaginal discharge that may have a bad odor; heavier bleeding during your period; or a menstrual period that lasts longer than normal. Human papillomavirus (HPV), a group of viruses, can cause abnormal changes on the cervix that can lead to cervical cancer. HPV is very common, and you can get it through sexual contact with another person who has HPV.

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    Okay, I am going to give my doc a call today and set up an appt. I guess it doesn't really matter if they lecture me. I'll just deal with it and leave, no big deal. Thanks for all the info and support. And seriously, I would suggest reading the link I provided above. Even if you think you know all there is to know, this website makes it clear that the info of HPV is ever-changing and most doctors do not know all of the up to date info. Remember, this is from the HPV Research Center. I tend to believe them over anyone else because, well, they deal with it specifically for their career. I am still going to call my doc, cause I figure I'm better off being safe than sorry. Plus, it's time for my yearly. Thanks again! :-D
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    Don't let them do any more tests.

    Okay, I had odd cells 2 years ago, they wanted to biopsy and I said no, test again in 6 months. Results came back fine.

    In those 6 months, I upd my vitamin intake and basically took care of myself, no casual sex, sex only with a condom, drank a lot less alcohol, more water. A year later I still had a clear pap. I swear, the f*ckin Dr.'s that force women to do all that really piss me off, there are so many things that can screw up a pap that they end up worrying most women way before there is ever a problem.

    4 paps later and I have not had abnormal cells. The 1st time I did was probably because the day before I had a 3 some, and 2 days before that I had my last day of my period, I explained all that to the Dr. and I think it made her judge me and therefore not give me other options. If I hadn't known that paps could be incorrect because of certain conditions I would have gone thru with what the Dr. had said.... thank god I knew better.

    Did you go to a local Planned P. or County hospital? More often than not that is the places that will not give you all the options you really have.
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    ^^ I'm not concerned with the cancer and all that stuff. I was at first, but after reading all the info from the HPV research center, I realize that half of our docs don't know what they'r talking about, therefore women are getting incorrect info. Anyway, I don't take vitamin, but I don't have casual sex(same guys 2 1/2 years), we also don't use a condom. I don't really drink alcohol and drink lots of water. I am sure that I am fine. Even if I did have it, which is highly unlikely since my tests came back FINE, it would almost definitely clear itself up. I am glad that someone else understands where I am coming from. But I am still going to go for my yearly pap, as I feel that it is definitely important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phedre
    Don't let them do any more tests.

    Okay, I had odd cells 2 years ago, they wanted to biopsy and I said no, test again in 6 months. Results came back fine.

    4 paps later and I have not had abnormal cells. The 1st time I did was probably because the day before I had a 3 some, and 2 days before that I had my last day of my period, I explained all that to the Dr. and I think it made her judge me and therefore not give me other options. If I hadn't known that paps could be incorrect because of certain conditions I would have gone thru with what the Dr. had said.... thank god I knew better.
    Do the tests you are talking about involve biopsies? The tests that the OP should be having are paps. I think the standard procedure for an abnormal pap is to have a follow up pap and then do one every 3-6 months until they consistently come out clean.

    Immediate biopsies/colposcopies are reserved for cases which involve paps that show moderate-to-severe dysplasia.

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    Phedre, that is why they give you a biopsy, so they can see why you are having abnormal paps before they do any invasive surgeries. They check for a lot of things to see why the pap was abnormal, including dysplasia, HPV virus, cancer.
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    ^^ Yes, I know that, that is why I elected to do another Pap after 6 months.

    A lot of things can affect a pap smear. There is no reason to assume after 1 abnormal pap (mine were normal for 8 years) that you have to biopsy. I know several women that after years of normal paps had an abnormal one and if you have never had anything abnormal before it is perfectly safe to wait 6 months and redo the pap. I have volunteered with PP in the past and spoke to many Dr.s before making that decision. Even when there is moderate to severe dysplasia it is better to get a second opinion following your next period. I choose to wait six months because I hadn't been taking that great of care of my body and wanted to see what I could do to better my health before opting for some drastic treatment that 1) doesn't offer enough information anyways, 2) was costly, and 3) the Dr. didn't explain well enough to satisfy me. So I went to an actual OB/GYN and got more info as well as a second pap, which came out completely normal as have each one I have had since.

    So what I am saying is, get a second opinion next month a week after your period ends. Your cells shed each month, sometimes things even as small as changing the tampons or condoms you use can cause your cells to change and look like some sort of dysplasia. There is no reason for an immediate biopsy if you have had a clear pap within a year prior. You do another pap (as Lizette is saying).
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    Mesmorized, are you saying same guy(s) for the last 2.5 years or same guy. If you aren't 100% sure about their monogamy then I would use a condom just because you never know who they bring to their bed and don't use a condom with. You can PM me if you'd like.
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    GET CHECKED, GET CHECKED. I know a girl who lost her uterus at age 19 from cervical cancer that had spread to her liver and kidneys. HPV is an invisible time bomb, and you don't want it to be too late. Cervical cancer is proven to be more prevalent in girls who are sexually active from a younger age.

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    I wouldn't take chances Mesmorized 113...I got my HPV from my dickweed ex who "didn't believe" in condoms before he met me.......I guess I lucked out...thank God for CA Health Access!!
    I promise what is at stake is worth going through the hassle for. At stake is your: fertility, general health, and health of future sex partners. STDs would be transmitted LESS if people just took better care of themselves.

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