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    I've given up the private room.... I didn't realise how much it was depressing me. Sure, if there's a nice guy I meet I'll take him back and give him a primary school dance, but for now I'm making most of my money on the floor. I take less, but I feel so much better about dancing! A few other girls in my club have started doing this too... not that we're expected to give extras, but after a time... you get fucking sick of wrestling with these jerks! I love dancing on stage and talking to guys on the floor. Anyone else taken this decision? I'm sure I'll make less cash, but if I can make 300-500 a night I'm happy.

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    I feel the same way. I've given up on the VIP room in the last few years, unless someone specifically asks and I get a good vibe from them. The main reason is the type of dances that used to be VIP are now done out on the floor as a regular dance. If there's already 2 way contact on the floor, what more am I supposed to come up with in the VIP?

    I find it to be so stressful in there most of the time, part of you is trying to give a hot better than out on the floor dance, part of you is trying to get them off of you, part of you is trying to block his view of the dancer nearby who's doing what you're not going to do. Not to mention knowing there are cameras documenting the whole thing, or even just the stale smell in there of beer and old sex.

    I started stripping when topless dancing really was just dancing with your top off. I really don't enjoy getting molested by strangers. Going with the flow of the changes I found myself trying to selling lot of VIP dances until to tolerate them I felt like I was coiling up into a little ball beneath my skin, not good. Then I realized, wtf? you don't have to do this, and for the most part decided to avoid VIP. I know a lot of dancers who avoid VIP for the same reasons.

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    I'm new, only doing this for almost 3 months now... but for some reason I had great luck in the beginning. I had one guy pay me in full and leave really early when he realized how naive and innocent I was and how he was going to have a hell of a time getting anything he wanted out of me- so I got paid a lot of money with offers for free tickets, shopping trips, etc for about 15 minutes of my time doing nothing. And the others had been perfect gentlemen who engaged in great conversations with me while massaging my feet and telling me not to dance and then tipping me $100 for just listening to their interesting lives and stories.

    But geez... now it's a completely different story. I hardly ever get asked to go to VIP, now I have to hustle them in there. Once I do, I have to fight them off me, keep them from raping me... or refuse their money when I discover they have a goal of getting something accomplished by being there with me: slipping in a finger, getting me drunk, getting me to meet them up in their hotel room, getting my number... whatever). One of the nights I made the most money was only possible because of the back to back sessions I had in VIP that night but at the end of the night I felt like complete crap, I had all these things on my mind that kept me from sleeping soundly, it was a horrible experience AND the money no matter how much it was was simply not enough for what I put up with to get it.

    What is really ironic is when there is a mutual connection: when both the costumer and I are extremely interested in each other, it's WORSE like 1000%. I'm miserable, because I feel wierd doing what I'm doing to take their money, I feel bad taking their money, and they feel like I am rejecting them... it's just wierd and unsettling. But no matter how perfect and nice and sexy he is, even if I was single and even if he was telling the truth about who he was, there would be no way I could ever start a relationship based on the conditions of how we met in the first place. Sigh, even so, I would make 3x the money if I got VIPs than trying to work the floor and if I'm dancing on the floor all night I'm unable to work the next day. So my goal every night is to go to VIP to drink the nice water and have my feet massaged and listen and talk but that's VERY difficult to do and come by.

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    This is where Australia and America separates. The only way dancing is done in Australia is in a private room or booth. There is no 'out on the floor' dancing done at any of the clubs I have ever worked within here in this country. It makes me wonder how you guys would handle the difference strip club culture here when there is no other 'on the floor' option.

    VIP here just means a separate area for VIP patrons.


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    It used to be all about stage shows, (*and* we got paid *and* kept all our tips too, no laps, and plenty of $$ too, imagine that!!). Now it's all about guys who say "what are you gonna do for me?". There is a post in the forums somewhere (forgot which one, sorry) about being rejected by guys you would never even acknowledge in the "real world". These day's making $$ dancing is much rougher, and that sucks, but things change. Too many cheap thrills out there these days, and the extra privacy and higher cost of private dances & VIP's have made things worse for those of us that like to tease, but prefer not to actually sell our "favors". Lot's of custies want more for less these days, no different than in the corporate word, I've sadly found. Many girls have resorted to extra's, don't do it!! No need to compromise yourself. There are still lot's of guys out there who still love the tease, and a good convo. Find them, and the creepy crawlies will stop, and you will still make that coin. Good luck to all those who are still on the same page. Brightest blessings!

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    There's a thread in hustle hut in which Katrine gives perfect advice. Don't ever feel bad about taking these guys money. They have set aside this money. Get that fee before you start. Don't feel bad about air dancing or walking out of the VIP if they attempt to assault you. I don't care what you promised or what guilt trip they give you. None of it is legally binding. What are they gonna do? Call a cop?! Screw them! Save your money so you're never desperate and if they don't respect the word no, give them an air dance. Some clubs attract a high percentage of raincoaters. Move on to another if more than 10-20% a night.

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    Good for you!

    Over the past 6 months, my take home pay has plummeted because I will not do certain dances in certain locations. And I don't care. I can look at myself in the mirror. I love my job again.

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    I am going to try a few new things at work tonight. Such as if a guy refuses to do a $30 VIP dance offer them a $20table dance right there on the floor. That way I don't have to tip out for it, and I can make a little more bank too.

    I am also going to try and do $5 mini dances as well. I hate to work weekends, but there is potential to make money, you just have to be a major hustling bitch to do it. (I have never been like that either, lol)

    I know how these guys get on your nerves, maybe you should just do that floor thing for a little while and take a few days off. when i take a few days in a row off, I seem to do better at work, at least in my mind.

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    I worked at a club where I completely gave up on selling the Champange Room, as well. The entire thing seemed unsafe and made me so uncomfortable.

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    My take on this is that the more unpleasent I find the work, the more I charge to do that work. I would rarely get asked to go back to the VIP room when I danced in Montana because my prices was higher by $200 then the other girls.

    But on the up side, when I did find a customer happy to pay that amount, he was very well behaved. Makes sense because he has to pay in advance, so he doesn't want to lose all the cash he just plunked down to have me entertain him.


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    I've worked in clubs where I wouldn't do the jacuzzi. But I've always been a champagne room girl. It's not hard for me to deal with the guys, and when they're badly behaved I kinda enjoy messing with them.



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    Default Re: Given up the Private Room!

    i personally prefer the fact that most dances in clubs i've worked in have to be done in private rooms. i like the quietness and intimacy. i don't like floor/table dances nearly as much, and i like stage still less.

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    I'll take the VIP room anytime... getting 400$ for an hour guranteed beats walking around on the floor hoping to get 5 or 6 20$ dances. I just try to explain upfront what you WILL NOT get in the VIP room, if the guy can't handle that than he can spend elsewhere.

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    I love the champagne room! 100 dollars for 15 minutes of lap-dancing! yes! I get paid upfront and if they don't behave I walk out. It's no big deal.
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    $400/hr. with both your money and your rules upfront would be good incentive! Where I've worked though VIP is just sold by the dance so you've got to come up with something better than what they'll get out on the floor. That was easy when it was floor=air dance, VIP=1 way contact. After a while it became floor=1 way contact, VIP= 2 way contact. Nowadays it's floor= 2 way contact, VIP=?!?!

    Two way contact does skeeve me out but it bothers me less if I'm getting paid well for it. The boundaries between VIP and floor contact levels have completely disintegrated in the clubs in this town lately. When you sell VIP by the dance it's harder to get paid upfront since you don't know if he'll be wanting to buy 2 or 20 dances. Surely he'll decide that after he "sees what he gets" and whether it's worth staying in there for the higher price. You really can't get paid first, do a couple airdances, then bolt.

    Since I'm phasing out of the biz I'm less driven by the money I feel like I HAVE to make and more driven by what I still love about stripping- the dancing, the teasy, flirty, fun stuff, which makes generally steering clear of VIP not much of a setback.

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    Default Re: Given up the Private Room!

    hey lena, what the hell is the jacuzzi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldCoastGirl
    This is where Australia and America separates. The only way dancing is done in Australia is in a private room or booth. There is no 'out on the floor' dancing done at any of the clubs I have ever worked within here in this country. It makes me wonder how you guys would handle the difference strip club culture here when there is no other 'on the floor' option.

    VIP here just means a separate area for VIP patrons.

    Sinsations in Canberra has all the lapdances in one big room which is seen by everyone whether or not they have paid for a dance.

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