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    Default How do you know if you are going to be tipped for conversation?

    My friend at work told me she used to work with a girl who earned most of her money by engaging in conversations with costomers. I guess there are some that are not into lapdances but willing to tip the good conversationalists well. I wonder what they are looking to talk about and how do you know if you meet one of these types and how do you get money out of them? I usually have them go into a VIP room so I don't have to be too obvious about getting money out of them since the room is timed and has a set amount, but what if if it's just on the floor? Do you just wait and see?

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    Chat everybody up for a couple of songs, then ask for the dance. If they don't want a dance, they will say they would rather talk. I usaually look around doubtfully and say "Well, I really SHOULD be getting back to work . . . ." like I wish I cold talk to them, but I really need to get moving. Then I give them the expecant look, to prompt them that I could be convinced to saty with a little cash. That gives them a chance to offer you an incentive to stay.

    After taht, maybe somebody else can help out. I get them ot offer to "Compensate" me fo rmy time, but I frequently end up with $5 for a 20 minute conversation. I have finally started saying "Ok, I have to charge you the same as a dance" or "My rate for conversatiopn is $X for Y minutes." So far, I have not gotten any takes when I use thse lines, but maybe that's jsut 'cuz the guys in my bar are cheap bastards.


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    Default Re: What to do if a costomer gets out of hand?

    At my club, we get money if we sell a certain number of drinks, so if a guy doesn't want a private dance, I'll still stay and talk with him until he stops buying me drinks. Then I excuse myself and go talk to other customers.

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    Default Re: What to do if a costomer gets out of hand?

    I'm just outright out-and-out about it.

    Ask them to tip you for your time. Or if their up for a little indulgement, suggest for them to order bottle of bubbly and you guys can have a cosy chat in private in the VIP room. Add that you'll be so comfortable you can take the conversation from where you left off - in your birthday suit...
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    Default Re: How do you know if you are going to be tipped for conversation?

    Odds are that you will not. The only sure fire way to be paid for company is to park them in the VIP. Whenever I quote my rate for conversation ($200-$300/hour), I get "OMG WE'RE JUST TALKING!" The times I was paid handsomely for company, I didn't ask for it, didn't expect, and was completely caught off guard. And it doesn't happen often.

    My advice: Stick to selling dances.

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    ^^ Agreed with Lizette.

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    Default Re: What to do if a costomer gets out of hand?

    Quote Originally Posted by colleen
    Chat everybody up for a couple of songs, then ask for the dance. If they don't want a dance, they will say they would rather talk. I usaually look around doubtfully and say "Well, I really SHOULD be getting back to work . . . ." like I wish I cold talk to them, but I really need to get moving.
    A waitress who's on top of her game is "key".

    When she brings your drinks, you should be there for her to ensure she gets a nice tip. When your drink is low and you still have closed on a dance, she might suggest the customer to flash a little cash for your time. If he says no, waitress suggests you get back to work.

    Now this isn't always the case, but were all here to make money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewitched
    When your drink is low and you still have closed on a dance, she might suggest the customer to flash a little cash for your time. If he says no, waitress suggests you get back to work.
    By golly...out of your entire 47 posts this one makes absolute perfect sense Good idea BW!







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    Default Re: How do you know if you are going to be tipped for conversation?

    I never stay in a table wondering if I'll get paid for conversation. Don't fall for the "I'll give you money for your time"

    If somebody offers money for that, it should be given in advance or, as somebody mentioned, you might end up getting $5 for 20 minutes.

    Sometimes you wanna spend time with a customer because he's buying drinks, he's a regular, he's fun, you like him, you have nothing else to do, bla bla bla... but that's different.

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    Default Re: How do you know if you are going to be tipped for conversation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Watermelon
    I never stay in a table wondering if I'll get paid for conversation. Don't fall for the "I'll give you money for your time"
    Once a customer said that to me and I bought it. For the hour and a half I spent with his table, I received $30. It was a Thursday night and quite busy. I could've made a whole lot more than $30.

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    Default Re: How do you know if you are going to be tipped for conversation?

    If they're serious about doing this, they'll tip you a $20 or more and tell you that they want to sit and talk. Then you pretend to get up and leave until they stop giving you cash. Usually the "talk-for-cash" customers have been well-trained by another stripper somewhere early on in their career and they know the drill. If they don't do this, don't trust a thing they say. You'll yap at them for half an hour and end up with some singles.
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    I used to make almost all of my money at one club for a while from conversation. I think the key was that most of the other girls were miserable faced "wanna dance" girls with zero personality so they made me look pleasant (-:
    I still do make $ from talking, but I never know when really, it's just luck. If you can get into a good conversation early on though I think you increase your chances of getting tipped for conversation or getting taken for a payed show where all you do is sit and talk. Being able to talk about a wide range of subject will increase your chances too. I tend to find it's definatly more the intellectual or artistic types who tip for conversation.

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    Default Re: What to do if a costomer gets out of hand?

    Quote Originally Posted by colleen
    After taht, maybe somebody else can help out. I get them ot offer to "Compensate" me fo rmy time, but I frequently end up with $5 for a 20 minute conversation. I have finally started saying "Ok, I have to charge you the same as a dance" or "My rate for conversatiopn is $X for Y minutes." So far, I have not gotten any takes when I use thse lines, but maybe that's jsut 'cuz the guys in my bar are cheap bastards.
    Try to think of a better way to word this. Guys want fantasy when they come into the club, and they want to believe that you actually WANT to talk to them. When you tell them, "My rate for conversation is..." that makes them realize that you aren't interested in talking to them at all, and all you want is money. Yes, this may be true, but you don't want to customer to know that. Yes, you should be making money, but you won't make money if you make the customer think you aren't interested in him. I've never used any of these lines, because I make money off of the drinks that customers buy for me, so I really don't worry about them tipping me for talking to them, but could you try something like, "I really should go try to make some money, but I'm having so much fun talking to you." And then see what he says. Maybe he'll give you money to stay and talk, or maybe he'll agree and tell you to go make some money. At least this way you'll know what you're dealing with and if there's a chance to get some money for more conversation with him.

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    Default Re: How do you know if you are going to be tipped for conversation?

    I don't have the answer to the question, because only rarely will I directly tip for conversation, and in those cases I had explicitly stated: "Im paying you to sit and talk, tell me when you need more money"

    Usually though, if a dancer spends some time sitting with me talking when she could have been hustling, I will compensate her with extra-large stage tips, but I'm pretty sure they don't always make the connection between the big stage tips and the earlier convo.

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    Default Re: How do you know if you are going to be tipped for conversation?

    Sometimes I get caught in the chatting game, but usually I stick to a quicker approach or try to get them into the champagne room to talk. Do these men really think we would talk to them for free??

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    ^^ Of course. If they had it their way everything would be free LOL
    Most of the time if we are having really awesome convo then asking for the sale and it doesnt fall through. I pause talk for a sec then say I have to get back to work eventhough were having such a great time I could stay *nudge* or go.
    I stick to dances or if they dont do dances I push this instead when they are into me.
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    the way i make $ for conversation is this....when i sit down with a guy and i am offered a drink...the first drink i order is the commision drink (just fruit juice, but we make $10 off of it)....after my drink comes, i'll talk for a few minutes then ask if he would like a dance...if he says no or maybe later....then at least i've made $10 for a few minutes of conversation....this doesn't always work ( cause , hell some guys won't even offer to buy you a drink! but for the most part it does...hope this helps!

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    When I first started dancing a guy said to me "sit and talk, don't worry about talking to anyone else, I'll look after you" Being new and nieve I spent most of the night with him as he requested in between stages and the few shows I got, at the end of the night he gave me $10, $10! I wanted to kill him. Never again, if a guy doesn't say "here stay and talk" and hands me money then and there I'm off! $10 for 6 hours pft, never again, I'm there to make money and I'm not making it while someone is wasting my time, they wouldn't like it if I held them up on their way to work and they ended up having their pay docked especially if it was under the false pretence that I was going to compensate them finacially for their time. The only guys I talk to for free are good customers that book shows or tip well, they deserve the special treatment. Might sound harsh but that rather expensive lesson I got all those years back made me realise what kind of creeps I could very well end up dealing with if I was too trusting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red red red
    If they're serious about doing this, they'll tip you a $20 or more and tell you that they want to sit and talk. Then you pretend to get up and leave until they stop giving you cash. Usually the "talk-for-cash" customers have been well-trained by another stripper somewhere early on in their career and they know the drill. If they don't do this, don't trust a thing they say. You'll yap at them for half an hour and end up with some singles.
    I am in total agreement here. The customers who have paid me for my time have offered it INITIALLY, not after the conversation. VERY rarely do they take a hint when you say you have to get back to work, and most of them take offense to you asking for money to hang out and have drinks. It's part of our job to hang out and have drinks, which is basically what hustling IS. You can't be expected to get paid for your hustle unless it ends up in lap dances or VIP.
    I just think that whole scenario is mostly gone with the past and that idea only remains with guys who knew the drill way back when and still feel as though we should be compensated for hustling. I would love it if that were the case, but nowadays it can't be expected.
    If he wants to give you money, he will offer it to you. There just isn't a way you can know whether or not he will be put off by you asking for it. It also depends on what type of club you work in. Mine has more of a bikini bar atmosphere, so the guys who want to pay for my time are pretty rare. They do exist, but just be grateful for when you find them and don't expect all the others to be the same. Just use your 2 -3 songs to get him in the mood for a dance. And if he doesn't want one, move on to the next guy. That's your best option, IMO.

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    I tried this tonight as well. I talked with a guy for a couple songs. After I realized that I wasn't going to be dancing for him, I told him that it was nice talking to him but I needed to go make some money. He then pulled out his wallet and tipped me. It wasn't much but it was good practice.

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    I've only had 1 guy pay for conversation with me. He was only the cab driver. He came in with a bunch of these big wigs. One of the big wigs bought like 7 dances off of me, and didn't even want me to get to close (he liked his space he told me)

    The cab driver guy originally told me that I should sit with the big wigs cause they came all the way over from UK and they have about $3000 on them!! After getting dances from first big wig, I sat around, and they bought me drinks. There were so many girls flocking, and I honestly didn't know when they were going to spend anymore money, so I went and sat back with the cabbie. He bought like 4 dances and then he told me he'd love it if I went back and talked to him. He then said, "I have no problem paying you to sit with me" so I said ok. WE sit, he orders me a drink and then says, "so how should this payout situation work" Since it was relateively slow at my club, I said, "ok tell you what..every girl who gets up on stage, give me $10" He thought that was fair, and hell so did I! Girls are on stage at my club for only 5min increments, so I made about $60 extra off of him. That was the 1 and only time I got a custy to pay for conversation.

    Most guys I try to hint that "well I really love talking to you but I have to get back to work" line to they dont' beg me to stay with them. They are like, "ok I understand, go make your money, come back to me when you get some time" The problem with that is if it's super slow, they EXPECT you to come back with them anyway, and again, my time is being wasted. I'm learing to just bounce around and have conversation rather than sit with one guy because it's boring as hell @ work.







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