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    Default Those poor, pitiful ones...

    I've been reflecting lately on my dancing days, and had some interesting thoughts and realizations.

    I've been reading many of your posts here, and I notice how most of the girls are VERY much into making as much money as possible, for as little a sacrifice as possible. Obviously, this is the best way to do business (for the salesperson, of course) : Work minimum, earn maximum.

    I, of course, worked this way as much as possible, and my so called "conning" efforts paid off real big in the end. I left the business with cash in my pocket and a bright future to look forward to.

    But now i start to think about all those guys that I danced for, and earned such huge $$$ for such relatively-easy work. These guys are lonely, single, pathetic, hopeless.... Just no real big shots.

    My few regulars were like this... One was a single fat guy, recovering from major surgery, lived on his own in the middle of nowhere, in a house with no bathtub.
    Another was a business owner who took blow jobs as payment for his merchandise.
    Another was a young good looking guy with a crossed eye (poor guy, such a sweetheart, but that eye.. oh my)
    another was a divorcee with a shitload of assets and 20 year old female friends (the guy is way older) and hasn't had sex in like 8 years.

    This is so sad... It makes me sad sometimes to think that I took their money and gave them very little in return.. Not that I'm saying that I deserved less, of course not, but it's sad.

    Poor pathetic losers..... And I don't mean this to insult the men, I just wish life treated them kinder...

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    Default Re: Those poor, pitiful ones...

    my heart doesn't bleed for dickheads who tried to get their fingers inside my thong.

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    They kept coming back to see you right? They must have felt they were getting enough from you, in return for their $$. You gave some sad little profiles, you were the highlight of their day. It's sweet you have a kind heart but don't feel sad about doing your job. They probably still think about you and smile

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    One current regular comes to mind. I feel bad for what his life must be like, he (physically)grosses even *me* out, and his mindset truly is pathetic. I do not feel bad for taking his money. To him, & many of the guys like him, we are all they have of touch, comfort, and human kindness, so they get quite a bit out of it actually. As long as we are kind, and they are respectful. This guy will never know me outside the club, doesn't spend much $$, and needs guidance to behave, but he helps me feel that my job is not the torrid, corrupt thing so many ppl like to believe it is. I am not robbing him of his money, I am offering him the human touch/contact that we all so need and often are deprived of. Angel of mercy? Nah, I get paid.

    As for the asshole PL custies- give and get, karma, etc. You get the point. Don't ever feel bad about giving "so little" - if they needed your attention, you gave a lot, and if they are jerks, you gave more than they deserve - no matter what they paid.

    There is another former regular of mine from a different club, who will be an eternal friend; his perception of what I gave him as a dancer means so much to him that even now, over ten years later, he still helps me whenever he can, and is an incredible (platonic) friend. Now *he* means the world to *me*, bizzare, huh? Guys like him are rare, unfortunately. I never thought a reg would wind up a real friend, esp for so long, but it happens.

    Just a new perspective.

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    At least half the guys who get VIPs in my club are like an entirely different species. Sometimes i just shake my head and laugh, but most of the time I am too busy to think about it.

    It's sad but true, we deal with a lot of--to put it bluntly--what could be called 'losers'. On a good night, the cool dancers will feel some compassion towards them, and try to treat them with respect, even if most women would laugh at them.

    On a bad night, after dealing with innumerable scumbags trying to get 25$ BJs, and doing it without tact or grace, it's hard to lose sleep over the fact that the dancers tend to take the money and run.

    I work in a rough club. People get killed there. Worrying about whether some poor guy might be wasting his money comes after survival.
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    Default Re: Those poor, pitiful ones...

    ok guys i just cleaned ,lets stay on topic. really a dancer discussion anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser
    I work in a rough club. People get killed there. Worrying about whether some poor guy might be wasting his money comes after survival.
    This seems to be bothering you a lot, enough that it's in most of your posts. If you perceive the situation as that dangerous, perhaps it would be more useful to remove yourself from it.



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    It doesn't really bother me that much, but it's definitely interesting, and as such I write about it here. It is a place where the extremes of the stripping world are seen on a nightly basis, both good and bad (and this applies to dancers and customers alike).

    I actually like the club, or I sure as shit would be outta there.

    But it does give me a view of all manner of strange characters, some worthy of respect, some not.
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    I wonder if casino owners feel bad b/c the guy just gambled away his house and car? Probably not.

    Plain and simple these types of guy want to give their money -its there to take and given willingly nothing wrong in that.
    Besides those who dont want to seek change or are unwilling to change will not change. Maybe they do see they are going broke from seeing you; but he wont stop unless hes willing to make a permanent change in his life.

    Youre giving them alot in return. Time, company, an open ear, unconditional support etc., are all things you are giving them. If they keep seeing you it prolly means youre not just some hot piece of ass...youre a hot piece of ass with side of compassion. Alot of people fail to realize they have alot of control over their own lives.
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    you can only survive by clinging onto trees
    that's your flaw
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    If you were a doctor and they paid for your services would you feel bad? You provided something these guys needed and I'm sure they were very happy for it...otherwise they woulnd't have kept coming back.

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    I think it is OK to feel sad about their plights - but I don't think you should feel guilty about it.

    People are responsible for their own lives. By the time one is 25 you pretty much have it figured out that if you want to make changes, how to go about doing so.

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    I can relate to Djoser in that seeing someone get harmed in the SC environment is a scarring experience (in fact, tonight HBO re-ran "The Sopranos" episode where Ralphie beats that stripper Tracey to death behind the Bada Bing- even Tony had a hard time with that...) Yeah, after seeing stuff like that, the sad little woes of the custies seem inconsequential.
    In my dance career, I have met a few customers who were cool. But I'd say they're only about 10% of all custies. With enough time, you can read their pathologies....Don't waste your pity.

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    i've taken lots of money from guys. obscene amounts. i've never felt guilty, not even the time i sold a custy a "magic" turtle for $500. he killed it because it wouldn't talk to him and came in the club in tears about it the next night. i sympathized with him, and he paid me for that, too. just saying i'm sorry. face it gals, you take their money, but for that moment in time you have sold, repeat, SOLD them hope, an evening with a hot chick, a sexual or sensual thrill, good company. how many guys REALLY get to spend even 5 minutes with a chick like us. after we get done with 'em they're not lonely, they may be broke, but they had a good time. we are doing a great service. and most of us are really nice ladies so these guys leave your club winners. never forget that. we create winners even if only for a few moments. be proud of what you do. you aren't selling formula to third world country mothers or making homes that have toxic mold or free floating fiberglass and selling them to families with kids. you've never done a monster episiomoty on a woman to get $500 more out of a delivery and explained it by saying to yourself 'it won't hurt her anyway.' see. you're a pretty good ole gal aincha? we all are.

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    There is one guy I worry about in almost 4 years of dancing

    He was going through a divorce and getting more pathetic every day....spending and drinking like crazy, every time doing worse than the last. He came in one night all beat up looking, like he had gotten himself hurt while drinking. Then I never saw him again.

    I kind of figured he committed suicide.

    I took advantage of him as any stripper would do with a customer that is spending. He would like to role play me as his wife and talk down to me. He was an easy $500 every time he came in.

    I don't feel bad about taking his money though. Should I?

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    ^^ No its the way of the world. If it wasnt you it would be some other stripper. Its the way it was suppose to happen. We cant interupt the natural process.
    you live like an ivy vine
    you can only survive by clinging onto trees
    that's your flaw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nautilus
    my heart doesn't bleed for dickheads who tried to get their fingers inside my thong.
    Where the hell did that come from??

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    yeah, I agree.

    I used to be a phone psychic and I'd hate it because you hear everyone's problems. So I'd have this ethical issue of listening to them bitch about their lives (many times about lack of money) and knowing that I was making money off them.

    So my dad taught me that a "fool and his money are soon parted."

    It's true. And if someone is going to capitalize on it, why not me?

    I can't be held accountable for the way someone else spends money, even if he's drunk (imo, if you get drunk in a strip club, you should expect to get fleeced.)

    But that I think he killed himself kinda gets to me.

    eh, I don't feel bad. He was a lost cause.

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    You're an entertainer, deal with it.

    Acting, Musicians, Pro Sports, Stripping, Prostition. All these jobs fall under the title of the entertainment industry. We all get overpaid.
    Whilst i think being 'proud' of this work is a little misguided, there is nothing really wrong with it. Sex energy is life energy and the sex industry encourages this, it aint all bad.

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    You think what strippers do is taking advantage of people... Then consider televangalists. Those guys get super rich by promising salvation in the afterlife. How can any human promise such a thing.

    Aren't they really just god's pimp?

    At least strippers do what they are paid to do- Strip.


    Promote yourself and earn more money! This is a business that is owned by strippers for strippers. Let's make that money!


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    One of my customers is a homeless man who spends $300 a night on me... it's HIS FUCKING PROBLEM if he's homeless and spending $300 a night on me.

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    and how does a homeless man scrounge up 300$ a night?

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    He's a longshoreman. He sleeps in his van but makes $300 a night working on the boat. Just doesn't save it to get a home. >_>

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    Hi Ladies, below is an edited* excerpt from a letter a customer wrote me this week. Hopefully it will provide some insight into the minds of men who drop silly money on us and smile all the way to the ATM:

    * I tried to remove all of the names, places, etc. to protect his identity.

    "Hey you! You thought you had got rid of me. Nope, not so easy. I wanted to thank you ONE MORE TIME for the great time last night. It's unbelievable how incredible you are. You are sweet, sexy, smart, beeeeutiful with a killer body and a fantastic personality and on top of all that you give charity to old, fat, ugly guys that don't know when to say bye. I really did have the best time ever. I know that you hear that all the time and I also know that guys come in there that are great looking with great bodies and I'm sure you are like WOW. But for one night you made me feel special and although I know that is your job, it felt like you were there with me and not there because I was paying. I hope you understand that. So damn it, don't forget about me! I can't believe how much money I spent last night! It was well worth it though. My friend asked me today and he was like you are f-ing crazy, you could have got laid three times putting out that money (can't you just hear him!). So anyway I guess what I'm trying to say is it's not a money issue for me but you're worth every penny. I could have sat there all night and talked to you w/o the dancing. The dancing, however, was a very nice bonus!!!! Other than the incredible dancing/conversation do you want to know what I will remember the most about you? OK, I'll tell you. Do you remember when you were dancing and the other girl sneezed and you said "bless you"? I know that is a little thing but it just tells me what kind of a person you are and that you are genuine. You really are the total package and I adore you for that. You're the best!"

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    A woman I was dating had me listen to such a message on her cell phone, it was so funny. The guy was blathering on just like that, but the really funny part was that he was a pee fetish guy. He paid her I forget how much (a lot) to pee in a glass and let him drink it. She did it in the bathroom in a mixed drink glass with ice, and brought right out to the table in the middle of an upscale club.

    Part of the message was him saying with heartfelt fervor "...your pee tasted so good!"
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    I have a couple of those letters... maybe we should all post our fan mail!



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