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And where the heck is Business management/Business administration???!!! Lol. We are not in demand.
Whew alot of them are lowwww paying jobs! But in demand it seems!
It is good to know that many of these jobs dont require a degree...now the other guys can get a job and make some $$.
Pamela





You'll notice that the article states that these 25 job classifications comprise 40% of all expected job growth i.e. 8 million jobs over the next 10 years. You'll also notice that of the 8 million forecast new jobs, only about 1/3rd of those new jobs pay more than $35,000 per year, and about 1/2 of those jobs pay less than $25,000 per year. Beyond that, essentially none of the jobs which pay more than $35,000 per year would consider a laid off union auto worker or a mid-level IT worker as qualified for the position.
Welcome to the 'service' economy of the future!
Ugh...that's just depressing.
I believe you Dottie and you have my support





well it's doubly depressing for dancers, assuming that somebody who earns $25,000 per year or probably about $400 a week in take-home pay is not going to have much 'discretionary income' left over to spend on lap dances.
True, from what I've seen dancing revolves around the economy as much as any other job. Who will buy a lap dance if they can't pay their rent?? Well...I'm sure some will...but that's another situation all together![]()
I believe you Dottie and you have my support





I wonder how many of these jobs will become outsourced by that time, or b/4..
MANY MEN WANTED TO LAY ME DOWN, BUT FEW WANTED TO LIFT ME UP
-Eartha Kitt
By and large, those are jobs that can't be outsourced (teaching, medical, retail clerk, truck driver, etc). It's the higher-paying, higher-skilled jobs like manufacturing/R&D/etc that are able to be outsourced and therefore being outsourced like there's no tomorrow.





If I was a lot younger I would of became an RN - you can go almost anywhere from what I've seen and get a decent job . I am not sure although if I have the stomach for such a job lol ..



With the exception of 5 or 6 of these, the wages for these jobs suck. People out of work would continue resetting their wages downward. If these jobs are it, quite a bit downward.
That is so awful that most of those salaries are so low and yet home prices are soaring. How in the hell are people supposed to buy homes? I met a lawyer not long ago who said his son was a lawyer in Miami making $70k which USED to be a pretty decent salary and now his son can't afford to buy a home.




I am almost wondering if these stats are just for america. Customer Service is listed as one of the jobs. That is the number one out sourced job there is. Alot of major companies you call now, it seems, picks up a phone in india.
The numbers in the Occupational outlook survey are always misstated by the press. The numbers for the jobs are NOT figured by percentage change in jobs, they are always ranked by the press by the number of jobs. Computer softwre jobs show up as 19th on the list with 222k jobs and are actualy growing 3 times as fast in percentage terms as retail clerks with 736,00 more postions.
Thus, retail jobs always show up at the top of the list because they are also the most numerous job category with 4.25 million positions in 2004. The numbers are also NOT a description of new jobs, they show the CHANGE in jobs. The difference is important, since some positions turn over jobs very quickly, and others do so only slowly. Want a "hot job"---become a nuclear engineer--they are all going to be retiring in large numbers in the next decade (hired in 1970- at 25=born 1945+65=2010 retirement party). Get the point.
They also look at tasks, not backgrounds, so business professionals are split in a gazillion pieces so it looks like no one wants them.
The real study, (not warped by the press) is at http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2005/11/art5full.pdf
I would argue that Bureau of Labor Stats ( I love you BLS, my friend!) doesn't even consider "exotic dancer" in their job class. I searched by exotic dancer, entertainer, and stripper. Nothing accurately exists. Can anyone do better?
"Have you ever been to American wedding? Where is the vodka, where's marinated herring?" - GB
"And do the cats give a shit? No, they do not. Why? Because they're cats."-from The Onion
Originally Posted by Mia M





While I'm not an RN, I am a licensed RT and have worked with nurses in a number of different settings. While an RN position might appear to pay well, keep in mind that the good paying positions typically involve mandatory alternating weekend and holiday work, mandatory overtime, kissing doctor's asses even when they are wrong, personal exposure to malpractice liability, and tons of gov't bureaucracy ... on top of constant exposure to Aids patients, hepatitis patients, antibiotic resistant hospital germs, TB (which I caught from a patient myself and had to undergo 6 months worth of treatment way back when) and a host of other communicable diseases.f I was a lot younger I would of became an RN - you can go almost anywhere from what I've seen and get a decent job
Sure you could accept a cushy union/gov't job as a school nurse and treat runny noses 5 days a week with all holidays and summers off, but this isn't going to pay anywhere near the level quoted in the news story.
There's also the education cost payback equation. Most high paying openings require new RN's to have a BS - which even through a state college is likely to run well over $30,000 in total tuition cost.
Melonie is right. My friend is an emergency room RN. If she worked all the shift available to her, she would be making more than 70K a year now at 28, with no BS, just a nursing degree, over 6 figures in a few years. BUT, much like stripping, the job causes constant burnout, and she doesn't always take advantage of her opportunity. I wouldn't do it for anything less than $500k annual, not for me!
"Have you ever been to American wedding? Where is the vodka, where's marinated herring?" - GB
"And do the cats give a shit? No, they do not. Why? Because they're cats."-from The Onion
Originally Posted by Mia M
AAAHHH... Maybe I should switch out of a journalism major... Or not, I love it too much.
Not to hijack the thread, but this is why a lot of nurses pursue advance practice degrees - they're still overworked, but the pay is better. I have a friend who is a nurse anesthetist. She works her ass off, but makes about $150,000-200,000 a year.


My bachelors is a BAAS specializing in sociology and anthropology. In the three years I have been dancing I have paid off my student loans from this damn degree. Thank you for showing us this Melody. I will now be taking as many accounting courses as I can. If I do go to grad school it will be for an MBA specializing in Accounting. I will also take the cpa exam.





All I can say is 'don't feel like the lone ranger'. You're not alone in having paid out a lot of money to obtain a degree which is, shall we say, of 'little market value' these days. People with Engineering and IT degrees are in exactly the same boat. Unfortunately, law and accounting seem to be the only professions free of outsourcing and budget cutbacks ! In fact I am told that 'forensic accounting' (i.e. Enron, Adelphia et al) is the fastest growing, highest paying segment.





It's not the low salary itself, its is the lack of much training that makes these jobs pay so low. Replacements willing to accept low pay are very easy to get and replace. The big problem is the lack of advancement opportunities without a lot of additional training.
Even if you have a lot of training, the good jobs just went thataway. Thank you, Mr Politician and Mr Consumer who thinks these $22 Chinese DVD machines are the greatest thing since paved roads. We are selling our neighboir's job down the road and soon he will be selling ours out too.
I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.
Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.
NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.





What were you thinking? And you mean the university didn't tell you about the wonderful jobs awaiting your degree? Well, the profs get pretty decent pay for leading you astray.Originally Posted by quequisiera
I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.
Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.
NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.


The universities are just there to sell the degree not the reality that comes along with it. I did have a job for a year right after graduating in social work loved it but it paid crap. I could not pay off my student loans, start a retirement fund, and buy a car on that income. But through Dancing I can. Good Idea maybe I should become a professor. What about you therelayer? What would you do from the twenty five if not happy where you are already?Originally Posted by threlayer





As long as you don't mind going for your PHD at someone else's expense, as long as you don't mind spewing a 'politically correct' viewpoint in your classroom, and as long as you don't mind collecting nearly $100,000 a year for working 9 months with every holiday off in a job that you can't be fired from without massive wrongdoing, it sounds like a college professorship is right down your alley !Good Idea maybe I should become a professor.





I would try to morph my interests/background into a profession very likely to stay here that would help in my own professional develpment. And where the financial rewards are not artificially limited, but are dependent on skills acquired and results achieved, not people I happen to know. I don't have to interject my own personal beliefs with my job, unless diametrically opposed on ethical grounds. I will NOT let any job engulf my persona. Finally I will always have talents not needed by my job, but I will use what I can whether I think I am paid specifically for those or not. After all, it's just a way to earn money in a profession; it is not my entire life.
Last edited by threlayer; 02-13-2006 at 02:54 PM.
I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.
Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.
NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.
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