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    THIS is a topic on another forum I frequent. (Pages 9-10) Somehow they started talking about homosexuality and I encountered a lot of homophobia. So I spoke up. Here's my views:

    "If a homosexual is making unwanted advances, usually a quick "Im sorry, Im not like that" will suffice. Most of them I know aren't obnoxious enough to continue to harp on someone with unwanted advances. And I have a lot of homosexual friends. I'm not afraid of them, and I don't understand what the big effing deal is. So they like the same sex. Wow. What's so different about that? I dunno, I was raised to be very openminded, so I guess I just can't see the big issue here. Homosexuality has been around for so long, it's suprising all the homophobic attitude I see still.

    Someone mentioned to me that he didn't like the fact that they had "Gay parades" and such. That they were shoving it in everyone's face. That's just the same as people parading around as "tree huggers" or strippers even! If we want to parade around naked whipping ourselves with bullwhips, so the hell what? Big deal! Don't like it? Don't pay attention. Don't tell me they're forcing you to participate or even watch, because it's not like they're taking over the television or whole cities at a time. They're just celebrating another part of life, and that's all it is people. Come on now. This is 2006, not 1956."

    So this is my opinion. It is really important to me to surround myself with people who are accepting and openminded on issues like this. I'm really interested in the views on this website.

    What do you think about homosexuality?

    Is it "bad"?

    Do gays shove it in our faces?
    etc....

    Discuss

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    Default Re: Homosexuality:Still a big deal?

    NY having the biggest population of gays, it shocks me(well, not really) that there is lots of bigotry towards gays.

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    Well, since I'm from "deep in the heart of Texas," most people are still VERY close-minded about homosexuality. I've always been told/raised to be against it- both sides of my family are very religious. Within the past coupld of years, though, I've started to break away from what I was taught and form my own opinions about things.

    I'm not surprised that most people here don't accept it, but I do (and wish more people would). After all, we're all just people, right?

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    Default Re: Homosexuality:Still a big deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Feiticeira
    "If a homosexual is making unwanted advances, usually a quick "Im sorry, Im not like that" will suffice. Most of them I know aren't obnoxious enough to continue to harp on someone with unwanted advances....
    A BIG deal about many males who are openly gay is that they want to seem so desireable to other gays, that they can 'turn a straight guy.' I guess you didn't know that.

    Someone mentioned to me that he didn't like the fact that they had "Gay parades" and such. That they were shoving it in everyone's face. That's just the same as people parading around as "tree huggers" or strippers even! If we want to parade around naked whipping ourselves with bullwhips, so the hell what? Big deal! Don't like it? Don't pay attention....

    Do gays shove it in our faces?
    You just answered your own question. The reason they have those outlandish 'gay/lesbian pride parades' IS to shove their own personal rebellion in our faces. I guess you didn't see that either. I have no problem with equal rights, as long as any one group doesn't try testing their behavioral limits in a poorly disguised attempt to spurn the remainder of us.
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    That's funny. I am in an email exchange with my brother about that right now. Actually it started out with politics and then he came back with "Who would Jesus torture" (he's a big bible thumper) and I was like "Bingo baby! Now the fun is really going to start" because we all "know" fags are going to be thrown into hell by Jesus' own hand. Or at least, his Jesus' hand. So Jesus would torture fags. It has been quite entertaining so far.

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    Default Re: Homosexuality:Still a big deal?

    yes.

    the general concensous (sp) is that homosexuality in any form is morally wrong. with that being the case people feel that they are right when they degrade, or bash, or demonize, or physically abuse, or murder lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgendered people.

    the pride celebrations (sp) are just a way of stating 'no matter what you all may think, do, or say...i'm going to be me'...nothing more...nothing less.

    and while their are some gay people (women and men) that feel they can 'make a straight person switch', most of us just want to live our lives with no drama, and have the same rights and privilages as heteros when it comes to marriage and caring for ones family.

    people who react violently to the lives and lifstyles of others have major issues within themselves and need to do something else about it instead of hating those whom they don't understand or agree with. being comfortable in the skin you're in is a beautiful thing. i wish more people understood that...instead of attacking the different.

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    I think the big issue isn't about rebellion against the lifestyle choice rather against the political and political correctness behind it. For example, having a "Gay Pride Parade" where the it is perfectly acceptable for the homosexual community to rub their beliefs in our faces whereas if there was a "Straight Pride Parade" in San Francisco the next weekend, there would be protestors all over the place labeling them as being "hate filled" and "homophobic".

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    Quote Originally Posted by DancerWealth
    I think the big issue isn't about rebellion against the lifestyle choice rather against the political and political correctness behind it. For example, having a "Gay Pride Parade" where the it is perfectly acceptable for the homosexual community to rub their beliefs in our faces whereas if there was a "Straight Pride Parade" in San Francisco the next weekend, there would be protestors all over the place labeling them as being "hate filled" and "homophobic".
    LOL! Most San Francisco protesters are hate filled and bigoted. Though they are unwilling to admit it. You just have to go to one "peace" protest out there to see how violent they are.

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    Default Re: Homosexuality:Still a big deal?

    assuming that all san fransicians (sp) are gay...they are not, and that all gay people have hate in their hearts toward heteros...they (we) do not.
    why do some people still have to fight to get the same opportunities that are given to others?

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    I think the big issue isn't about rebellion against the lifestyle choice rather against the political and political correctness behind it. For example, having a "Gay Pride Parade" where the it is perfectly acceptable for the homosexual community to rub their beliefs in our faces whereas if there was a "Straight Pride Parade" in San Francisco the next weekend, there would be protestors all over the place labeling them as being "hate filled" and "homophobic".
    Well said.

    I have no problem with homosexuality--it's a fact of life and of science (increasingly so). What I have a problem with is superseding humanity with sexuality, which you find in more radical groups proseltyzing for their particular subgroup. Identity politics are simply too divisive to serve a greater purpose.
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    It's like CO was saying. It's almost like religious radicals. I know some gay people who want nothing more to inflame people by rubbing homosexuality in their faces. However, not all gay people are like that. I, for one, don't go throwing my "gayness" in everyone's face. I don't particularly care for rainbows, upside down triangles, or labyruses. It's like being asked "how do you know you're gay?". Well, how do you know you're straight? You just do. It's not as big a deal as everyone thinks. The only big deal is law making. There's a HUGE difference between being openly gay and honestly gay. I don't offer up my sexuality in introductions to people I don't know. However, if someone asks me, or tries to make an advance towards me, I will tell them. I won't volunteer it, but I won't lie about it.

    As for the parades, I have never been to one. I'd like to go to see what they're about. But they're kind of like the Daytona bike conventions. Do you get offended when everyone is on a Harley and you're not because they're rubbing it in your face? Doesn't make sense. People take little things way too seriously. Don't try to make your opinion into the law, that's not what they're for.
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    ^^^
    Says a card carrying member of all dominant groups. It is beyond silly to pretend that "identity politics" happen in a vacuum. These things are informed by history, by dominant groups, by social hegemony. If you were an alien who just landed on earth you might not see a different between a t shirt that says "Black pride" and "white pride." But every member of the Western world understands the subtext in both of those shirts. What would a "straight pride parade" MEAN? Do you think? When I said that churches in Toronto would advertise that they were gay positive and would perform gay weddings, what's his name asked me if they advertised straight weddings as well. Is this unequal? Maybe if you were an alien. However in Toronto, the fact is there is no church that refuses to do straight weddings. There are no straight couples running around looking for a church to marry them. So it's not an issue. There is no real inequality. Just a weird excuse for bigots to CLAIM an inequality.
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    this is very well put. a lot of argument of "reverse discrimination" or "double standards" are usually made by people who, while not necessarily openly homophobic, but are in denial that there IS inequality. this is also true for the sexism and racism in our country. people think by denying that there is a problem, to be "colorblind" or "non-sexist" it will "fix it" (but it really just propels the unequal status quo). celebrations or displays of homosexuality are attempts to either confront a problem or right a wrong. this reminds me of an argument that ive heard several times over about sports funding for schools, how having equal funding for women's programs is unfair to boys' sports, how it is "reverse discrimination". a totally absurd argument, sure things have to be doled out differently now we want to recognize everyone of deserving of opportunity, so some people lose thier overprivileges to even things out, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsTopaz
    assuming that all san fransicians (sp) are gay...they are not, and that all gay people have hate in their hearts toward heteros...they (we) do not.
    No kidding about the "peace" protests. I happened to be in SF on a business trip once during one of them and went to check it out a bit out of curiosity. Never have I seen so much hatred. I was also fascinated that there were so many pro-communist, pro-castro, pro-extremist everything was represented there. There sure were a lot of angry people there at that peace protest. One of the funny things I did see though were some representatives from Protest Warrior. Now THAT was funny. They walked around with huge signs with slogans like, "Except for ending Slavery, Fascism, Communism and Nazism, war has never solved anything!" and "Communism has only killed 100 million people, let's give it another chance." Classic.

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    Seems that when you look at demographics, the higher the income & education in any given sector, the less homophobic the people living there tend to be.

    Hmmmmm.....no surprise there.

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