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    last night a girl I never worked with sucker punched me while I was in the drressing room. We had not argued, and after the fact the other girls said she was jealous of me. Is this common in the industry or should I just find another club, because I WAS MAKING GOOD MONEY.

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    I am not a dancer, but I would leave! You have to feel safe and be comfortable at the place you work at. Start checking out other places, without making it known, if you find something better, leave.

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    Get her fired! Tell the boss he's paying your medical bills if she hits again (have a witness with you when you notify him.)
    Personally, I'd grab a curling iron and start swinging it at her next time she gets up in your face.

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    Did any other girls not witness it? I would have expected management to do something about it had I not hit her back. You could have called the police and pressed charges also. Nobody should be coming up and punching you for any reason. If she had a problem with you she should have been woman enough to talk to you privately about it or notified management. That was definately an inexcuseable way to handle it. I would tell the manager what happened and that I no longer felt safe and unless he retified the situation I would be leaving.

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    If they do not fire her sue the club. No, this is not that common. But just like in the real world there are some crazy mutherf out there. You need to go see a doctor asap so that you can get a medical record of your injury.
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    maxine is right, as are the other ladies. if the club will not back you, smack that bitch up, because obviously they are not about protecting girls from each other.

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    I'd agree to go to the manager about it, bring a witness and any medical info you have from seeing the doctor. They really should fire her, If they cannot provide a safe place to work then i'd look elsewhere for a job. pressing charges on her for assult and the club for neglegence (or something like that) could take a long while to happen and might be more costly than it would be worth, but that last part is just my opinion i have no expirence with the court system beyond a parking ticket

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    fuck her and the horse she rode in on...... thats absolutely ridiculous.... i would hope she punched you for a good reason and not over something dumb...... i wouldn't let her get the best of me... if its bothering you and work and causing you to not make money, i would go some place else to work......

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    i apologize for the "i hope she punched you over something worthwhile".... i didn't mean it that way.... i meant i hope it was worth it to her...... i'm seriously not trying to be a bitch... it kinda came out wrong.

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    Damn, that is fucked up....NO it is NOT normal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmaxine
    Get her fired! Tell the boss he's paying your medical bills if she hits again (have a witness with you when you notify him.)
    Personally, I'd grab a curling iron and start swinging it at her next time she gets up in your face.
    I have seen women beating each other with appliances...

    A lot of clubs won't back you up, which means you need to aggressively defend yourself, or probably better still find a club where they can keep their jealousy under control.

    Using appliances, or whatever, for self-defense isn't necessarily a bad idea, especially if the woman is tough--but beware, there are two serious drawbacks to this kind of technique.

    1) If the woman is used to catfighting and you aren't mean enough to do it seriously, she'll get really mad--and there will be no rules anymore. you could be seriously injured and possibly out of work.

    2) Possibly more serious are the legal repercussions. It doesn't matter if she was beating hell out of you, you grabbed whatever was at hand, or just got extremely vicious with your various body parts--if you seriously injure her, and she needs an ambulance, there will be cops. This is bad.

    Cops get really jaded about going to stripclubs, and are prone to arrest the one who did the most damage--meaning you if you have a curling iron and she doesn't. Also if you are the new girl odds are that the others will testify against you regardless of what went down. This is bad.

    If you have any kind of prior record you are also the one who will get arrested. In the case of the appliance battle I witnessed, the one who got her eyebrow split open nearly got arrested, and the one who had the record is still in serious trouble, even though she claimed a concussion (probably bullshit, but you never know). One had a hairdryer, one had a curling iron/straightener (probably the better choice of weapon).

    If you do stay there, find the coolest dancer there and get the scoop on her--what you need are allies. The other dancers might not like her, in which case you'll be way better off. However if she is the Queen of the club, you're fucked, lol...

    In that case you really need to get out, she'll think she can now dominate you at will, and if you ever have a great night there, or worst of all she claims a customer (even without his consent or knowledge) and he gets a dance from you, you'll be fighting her again.
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    Thank God I don't ever have to deal with this.
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    I deal with it constantly--or rather having to take diplomatic steps to avoid it.

    The last shift I worked it got close, and one of my favorite dancers was in tears because a new one had seriously messed with her. She was threatening violence, threatening to quit, etc.

    Though I was on the verge of quitting most of the night, lol, and was extremely on edge myself, I did what I could to sooth her--and thankfully it worked quite well.
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    Man,you need to move down here and work at my club.My club doesn't let that type of stuff happen.
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    I just went through this jealousy crap last night... no punches thrown but a very heated argument that I won. Felt damn good too.

    You leave, she wins. Thats is. Shes accomplished her goal. If you do go back be sure that youre ready to defend yourself if she tries this shit again. Im assuming she punched you in the dressing room so get a little purse to hold your lipgloss, bodyspray, gum, etc so you stay out of the dressing room as much as possible.

    After time when she sees youre not leaving shell get over it and find some other new girl to torment. Or you can leave and give her what she wanted....

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    This stuff is just fucking ridiculous...

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    As ridiculous as it is - its the shit you have to deal with when most of the girls have the mentality of a high schooler....

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    Think of the club as high school all over again. Occassionally somebody will want to fight with even me over nothing. The only girls that go out of their way to do this are unstable or drugged out. Comes with the territory. I stand up for myself, and try to make the other person look stupid (to themselves) for continuing the argument. I've avoided a lot of trouble by staying under the radar and out of the dressing room as much as possible.

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    thanks for all the advise. I want to go back to work at the club, but my safety and my face is not worth me staying at a club that i could find one just like. The girls at this club are really ghetto, and I just don't think its worth it. If this girl feels like she had to hit me because she felt threatened, or was jealouse, and she couldn;t step her game up, then she can keep her stankin ass club, I can go any where to make money, and like I said it's not worth it.

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    My advice - move to a different club. Are you giving her what she wants by doing that - I don't know, but who cares. Life's too short. Are you a brawler? I suspect not from the very fact that you made this post. Find a club that works for you - there are lots out there. Work's gotta be fun, or you'll burn out way before your time. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Playful Mandy
    Work's gotta be fun, or you'll burn out way before your time. LOL
    Being that I danced for 11 years,that cannot be more true.

    You are lucky you don't work in one of the inner city clubs here in New Orleans.There is a particular club where the girls are EXTREMELY ghetto and are notorious for slashing the competition's faces with a razor knife.Be careful!!!!!!!!
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    Hey girls, I used to be a bouncer for some clubs for awhile and I dated several of the girls. I've seen stuff that would make some of you guys scream. You do get some girls that are just brutal, especially to new girls or the ones they see as being competition. I've broken up so many fights between girls it's not even funny. They say that guys are violent, but beleive me the stuff I've seen, I know that women can be twice as bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.MojoRisin
    ...They say that guys are violent, but beleive me the stuff I've seen, I know that women can be twice as bad.
    Yep, that's what I've observed as well.

    There was yet another fight in the dressing room, tonight...
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    Men in our culture are often raised to settle things with light violence. Barfights, etc. I think it's not unlikely that when a woman gets violent, it's more desperate.

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    This kind of thing really sucks, on a bad night it's girls against customers (and in some places management against girls too) it's up there with girls stealing from each other. All the places I've worked in I've tried to encorage the girls to work together toward a common goal (making money and a mutually benificial environment, it's amasing how narrow minded some people can be about making money) I've been a manager as well and have consulted for a fee on new clubs that have just opened, I find if staff work together and have a system worked out (for example a few places here in Sydney waitresess work on commision and can go into private shows if they sell champagne getting a commission per bottle) So rather than dancers competing with the waitresess for money we worked out that if a dancer gets a good customer she pulls a waitress in on the deal and if a waitress gets a good customer she pulls a dancer in on it and each sells the other, it works brilliantly, nothing works like a recomendation and both make more money than if they had gone it alone (it's called synergy) the customer comes back because he's had a great time and everyone goes home happy.
    I've jumped in on a few squabbles, sometimes a little reality check can do wonders, it's always good to have a few switched on girls who work in with management to aclimatise new dancers and smooth out any problems. I've seen cases where dancers were trying to go each other but it has usually come down to someone breaking the law and putting the whole club in jepardy (girls doing "extras" and not even having the sense to charge more, no opologies to girls who do that since it's selfish and not necassary and they are selling themselves short, I make more money and don't break the law as I have demonstated to these girls many times, the "less" you give the more money you make since the guys think your more up market and are worth the money, they expect to pay you more) the biggest problem I had as a dancer was 2 girls who wanted it all their own way and were not above manipulating the rather soft manager we had at the time into giving them more podiums, shift times etc, me and another dancer sat them down and explained to them how the club worked and told them we would not put up with it, we made it quite clear that to make it in the club they had to be a team player and would not last long if their work strategy did not reflect the clubs, the other girl even went so far as to say that we would make life difficult for them if they didn't lift their game, they were lucky in Melbourne they used to throw them down the stairs) since then both girls had become the clubs biggest supporters and good friends, new dancers need direction and they need to be filled in on the clubs dynamics. I have had minor (I thought I left high school 2 decades ago!) problems like a girl trying to barge past me and generally be "Your a piece of shit" attitude toward me even though I gave her plenty of opportunity to sort it out, in the end the whole ego thing is pretty self destructive, she left because she couldn't figure out why I made money and she didn't.
    When I see a new girl make more than me I don't beat her up, I ride on her coat tails, I offer to show her how the place works in exchange for working in with her on the big customers (and I return the favour) two heads are better than one, we both learn and we both make more money.

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