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    Why is it in the club environment if i ask a guy for a dance he will tell me no but dance and dance and dance with the next drugged up or obviously too old piece of meat that walks by?? i am confident that it cant only be about looks. when i see it i think that maybe they are stayin in a comfort zone or maybe intimidated by a very attractive woman. im intelligent, articulate,educated i have wonderful convo. im sincere, caring,sweet,and dedicated. whereas the other half has attitude all the time the smoke and or drink all the time (i dont do either). i have a warm welcoming smile while others ur lucky if u get hey honey. i dont get this. im real and down to earth i dont lie to my custies. and they keep coming back to me but its the guys that have never been in here or the loner guys that do it. when i dance for them i make them feel like i care and i am sensual and slow. where others hump their leg the whole time. im confused. i need to write shorter threads.
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    Default Re: Can anyone answer this??

    I think it's just one of those unanswered questions in life.

    Another ponderable: why is a guy less interested when you stop charging him for your time?

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    I think that some guys think they'll get further with a less attractive girl, that they're easier. I've noticed in almost every club I've been to that the ones who do extras are the less attractive girls (not to say that they all do extras).

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    Maybe they're simply looking for mileage, as you said the other girls hump legs...maybe your dance is a bit too respectable for some guys?

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    It might also be that whole girl next door thing vs. the slutty persona. I'm not very good at doing the slutty thing so I just don't do it. It comes out seeming really fake from me but some customers prefer it in their dancers. At the same time I know I get other customers that don't like it when dancers act that way and thats why they like me. You're probably getting plenty of customers that would also never dance with the other girls in your club that act like that. Its a real uber-hustler that can do both.

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    All men have a preference. I remind myself this everytime I'm turned away for a dance. Hell, I remind myself of it everytime men leave my tip rail when I get on stage.

    Look at it like this, if you were a man and came into a strip club, you would get a dance from what you liked right. Let's say there is a girl who is 5'0, 98lbs, with blonde hair and blue eyes. In your eyes, she looks like she's 9yrs old. She keeps asking you for a dance, but feel no sexual attraction to her at all...would you buy a dance from her? Majority of the time, NO because she is not what floats your boat.

    A few weeks ago at my club, ALL of the exotics, the barbies just stood in a corner all night while the frumpy, sloppy bodied, "girl next doors" worked our asses in circles. We were like dumbfounded. But we learned to get over it. There will be nights when I will be the ONLY one banking cause i'm the black girl, or the girl with the biggest boobs in the club. Other nights, I won't be so lucky.







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    Default Re: Can anyone answer this??

    Quote Originally Posted by Emily
    I think it's just one of those unanswered questions in life.

    Another ponderable: why is a guy less interested when you stop charging him for your time?
    Same reason he's less interested when you start charging for your time.

    It comes down to custy's and non-custy's: never the twain shall meet. Men bitch about this not being true, but they just get confused by the transition.

    To the poster -- if you walked into a club and had to guess which dancer would give cheap blowjobs in a dark corner, who would you pick? Hot or Not?

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    i think thats what it is but i dont ever say that becuz i wouldnt want someone to say that about me when i make money which they probably do anyway but not to my face. my club is full of 30 and up women. nothin wrong with that but when ur 50 u need to stop!!!! with grand kids and great grandkids!!! but then again i guess an woman who can take out her dentures to give a bj is better than me who wont d o it at all. i dont even flash!
    LOok at me!!! men who spend money... im as innocent as can be!!! until we get outside...

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    Some men like that bad girl/party girl thing. I've tried being that girl and found that those customers aren't as nice as the ones looking for a warm, intelligent woman.



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    There are several reasons for this. First off, guys for the most part go to a club to get the best dances possible. They LOOK at how the other girls dance to determine who they will spend money on. If you're not a grinder during your dances, they see you as a waste of money.

    You mention all of your "qualities", being sincere, caring, etc.

    Here is a test for you. Tonight when you go to work, sit back, watch, and listen to the conversations the "ordinary" or washed up dancers have with their customers.

    Maaaybe when you approach a guy, introduce yourself,and ask the customers name and probe him. Find out about HIM, and let him talk. Nod your head, smile, and rub his leg or grab his arm while he is talking. Ask him about the club, if he's been there before, what other clubs he's gone to. Again let him talk give him eye contact while smiling all the time.

    Get the guys to build rapport with you. Don't act too prudish, but be sexy and funny. Don't spend time discussing how educated you are. Brush over this fact about you quickly and keep them talking, all the time rubbing their leg or squeezing their arm. Let them be the man, the "daddy." Don't tell them you own a laundromat, have a consulting business, and own your own home and have 2 rental properties. Don't tell them you have a 5 year old child and a wonderful husband. Being available, polite and classy, but "needy" is what sells.

    You really need to size up a guy (through your probing which you are supposed to do when you first start talking to him. Adjust your personna to the kind of guy he is. If he is wearing a John Deere cap, Wrangler jeans, boots and a Nascar jacket, your articulateness, and class isn't going too far. He wants a down to earth gal who is kinda country and down to earth. Stroke his leg, let him talk and be the man, and then say "I want to dance for you now and rock your world". Conversely, if the guy is neatly dressed in an ironed Polo shirt, pressed khaki pants , fresh haircut, and stylish leather shoes, you can be a little more refined, as a girl who could be brought home to mom, be sexy and stroke his arm, but let him play daddy. Then go for the sale.

    Once you do this, TELL them you are ready to dance for them and ask them if they want their dances at the table or in the VIP or private area (depending on how your club is set up).

    Remember that you are a SALESPERSON and not a dancer. Your job at the table or bar is to PERSUADE the guys to buy dances from you. Don't take no for an answer, learn to talk the guys out of no. Learn to sell the guys on how good your dances are, because that is what the other girls are doing who are outselling you.

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    ^^^^ That may or may not work because I noticed the slutty guys like to interrogate you to see if you're the kind of permissive dancer to get them off in as few dances as possible. They purposely avoid talking because they don't want to connect. They want to get off and discard. They want to control the conversation for their purposes and control your body for as little as possible. So, having said that, it's good to get an idea of what percentage of these customers you'll see daily so you don't expect more success than you can realistically get. I believe if a club has over 20% the frustration may be greater than the money. Then, understand, if you get them to buy it will be a battle. You may have to stay back from them to finish the dance or be mauled. They will use high pressure tactics to get you to give more. And they won't want more than one or two dances. Check out this thread www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread/.php?t=62870 and good luck.

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    There are two excellent books on negotiation I would recommend to you: Getting to Yes and Getting past No by William Ury. Remember all of our contacts with each other involve negotiation. Each party trys to get the upper hand in order to "win". Thats fundamentally what is going on each time you go out on the floor and interact with the customers. Its not so much how you look or what you do that will help you "win" its how well you can negotiate with skill.

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