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    Default Phoenix girls! Give me the scoop!

    The last few months, I have had somewhat of a crazy life. This life has led me to Phoenix, where my best male friend lives. Coincidentally, he is also a DJ at the Penthouse Club. Not wanting to limit myself to working only there, I would like to get you guy's opinions on the other clubs in the Phoenix/Scottsdale area. I'm going to be probably taking the next week or so to adjust to my new surroundings before going to work--plus, I haven't worked for about a month and a half, so I need to gather my bearings and build up the courage to go in!

    Thanks, as always, ladies!

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    Do you already have your license for the clubs within the city limits of Phoenix, and are you already dancing at Penthouse?

    I would strongly suggest going in as a customer to some of the higher volume clubs, sitting for around an hour and watching how many dances are being sold PER song played, and the floor momentum.

    At $10 a dance, it is all about the volume of dances that are being sold. Some of the clubs have most of the girls conditioned to constantly walk the floor asking for dances and in those clubs the customers are conditioned to buy easily without much chit chat.

    I would suggest visiting these clubs:

    Hi-Liter, (12th st just south of Camelback, and Bandaids, 7th St and Virginia. Go to these first (same owners) as a customer. It doesn't matter if it is day or night, they are usually busy. Watch how the girls constantly approach the customers and how the money turns.

    Next, go to Christies on 32nd St and Washington, and Bourbon Street Circus, which try to position themselves as upscale, see the money flow and dances being turned there. Notice the VIP, and observe if there is any or much action going on there. Christies is kinda slow during the day and Bourbon St a little busier during the afternoons.

    Next, visit Candy Store on Cave Creek and Union Hills Dr. Floor hustle is fairly decent here, but not as good as the first 2 clubs. Dances are only $5. Decent volume club, day or night. Money is made here by volume and tips. Centerfolds on 23rd Ave and Peoria has been a good club, but seems to lack the floor hustle it once had. You should probably check it out at night to see how many dances are turning per song/hour.

    I would then venture to Babes and Skin in Scottsdale and see if the dance selling momentum is coparable to the other clubs you have seen.

    Next hit Christies in Tempe, (I-10 and Baseline) and compare it to the 32nd st. location.

    Lastly, I would visit Sonnys in Chandler (Arizona Ave, south of the new loop 202 fwy) and both Desert Flame and Angelos on the east Mesa/Apache Junction border on Main St. Hit these at night, and see how the girls work the floor and how many guys are buying, I didn't see enough hustling on my visits there, but there may be some money/ clientele building potential.

    After you analyze these clubs over a few days you should have enough info and vibes to make some decisions. The clubs I mentioned are really the only ones worth dealing with, and then you can decide what seems to be the best flow for you.

    You can't really judge these clubs by the way the customers look. It's all about getting 6-10 dances an hour, 10-12 on busy hours. The guys know the ropes, and spread their money around, so you will get a lot of guys that buy 1 or 2 songs. You collect, and go on to the next guy. When a guy says come back later, he means it here. KEEP going back.

    It would be best to get hired at several clubs and float between them. Set a goal as to how many dances you want to sell, ie: you want to walk with $300, set a goal of 35-36 dances. As I said , some of these clubs have solid business day and night, so you can go in early for less payout, and stay until you reach your goal.

    Good luck. Hope this helps.

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    i work at bourbon street and i like it there. dances are super easy to sell, the girls are friendly and manegment is laid back. the only thing i dont like is that it seems like there are more "ghetto" girls every month.

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    What Tina said.

    Oh, and bring yer ass to the SW get together at my karaoke night, biatch!!!


    I always worked HiLiter - always easy hustling, always busy and guys always buying. It's a RARE day indeed that there's no money to be made in there. And you can totally come and go as you please, no hassles at all. Even come and go within the same day for one payout.

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    Ooh! I love karaoke and so does my best friend! And other than him I know NOBODY out here, so it would be nice to get out and meet some cool new friends--especially people I know but don't really know, you know? Count me in, Bridgette!

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    I say you just dive in! March is the CRAZIEST month here in town with spring training, golf, world baseball classic, conventions, etc. You can't NOT make money in Phoenix this time of year. I have my best year EVER thus far (thank you Dancerwealth!)

    Although Tina's method is logical, I wouldn't waste much more than one night checking places out...after all time is money... and right now is THE key time to be making money in Phoenix. ALL the clubs are busy now. And, once you have the phoenix license you can try a club for a few nights, make some dough, and if it leaves something to be desired....move onto the next one.

    In my opinion, focus on Bourbon, Christies, and Hi-Liter. All three are solid clubs. The Scottsdale clubs have lost a lot of business...and a lot of girls. Rumormill has it that Jenna is selling Babes and writing it off as the worst business venture of her career... And a lot of the Scottsdale dancers have migrated to Sonny's because it is the only other club in the valley that has similar style dancing ($150 Chandler license though)

    Despite a similar thread a few months ago about Phoenix clubs being "dirty"....Phoenix contact is still WAAAAAY less than what was at Hustler and Boys Toys. I'm confidant you are experienced enough to know how to control your dances without relying on a bouncer to tell a customer where to put his hands.

    Phx girls are spoiled. Especially the ones who have never danced outside of AZ or Vegas or for a corporate chain like DejaVu or Spearmint Rhino. There is no schedule, no penalty for not showing up, you don't have to "call in" if you are sick. They don't count your dances and take a percentage. They don't send you a 1099 for the funny money you turn in and get cash for at the end of the night....(you worked at hustler, you see where i'm going don't ya??)

    It's really just a matter of what type of club you feel more comfortable at. Christie's is a big warehouse-style gown club with open ceilings, wraught iron, marble stages, upstairs VIP, and a set of rules to follow. After working for DejaVu, Christie's "rules" are a breeze: gowns on main stage, 3 merchandise features per night, no-rap music format, and 5 hr minimum shift requirements.

    HL and BS are much more typical of your local titty bar: Black lights, smoky, laid back, less of a hard sell. You can walk around in a thong, leave when you want, play whatever kind of music you want. Still a lot of $$$ to be made, but just a completely different atmosphere to do it in.

    Good luck! Feel free to PM me for any specific info.
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    I wanna come!!!!!!!!!!!!







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    Default Re: Phoenix girls! Give me the scoop!

    wow march sounds pretty good over phx... but what about april may june?
    i reckon worst months are summer months?
    which are bad almost everywhere imho except maybe alaska ..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cinammonkisses
    I wanna come!!!!!!!!!!!!
    You would make so much money off of me it would make your head spin.

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    Oh really...hmmmm







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    LOL ck - CP likes the boobies

    So Glam - go check out some clubs, make some cash, and come party with us at karaoke! woohoo!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette
    LOL ck - CP likes the boobies

    So Glam - go check out some clubs, make some cash, and come party with us at karaoke! woohoo!!
    It's on for karaoke, just remind me, because I'm really absent minded! We're looking at not this week, but next? PM the details or something, okay?

    I'm going to go get my license on Monday or something...maybe start back working next weekend. My best friend (the DJ) says to relax, that the past month has been traumatic for me (well, me and all who love me), and to start working when I'm ready. Being that he is kinda (okay, wholly) taking care of me right now (food, a place to stay, all that good stuff! I'm very blessed!) and we aren't in a romantic relationship (completely, strictly platonic, so he's available!), I want to start working soon to pull my own weight. I think for starters, I'm going to go to the Penthouse Club, I mean, one of the best DJs I've ever worked with works there! That'll be a whole lot of comfort for me, seeing as how I've been out of full-time dancing for almost 2 months now. I did discuss with him some of the SW suggestions for clubs to check out and he said that he thought that I'd like Christies, but it's really far. I don't have a car (that City living in SF REALLY spoiled me) and I hate driving, so I'll just carpool for now and get back into the groove of things. Thanks, SW ladies, you never fail to deliver...at least when it REALLY counts!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Chili Palmer
    You would make so much money off of me it would make your head spin.

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    Ms. Cinammon Kisses,
    CP and I have very similar tastes! I suspect that my financial contribution would not compare to his, but you would probably make enough money off of me to make MY head spin....

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    I absolutely BANK at Bourbon Street.It's the best club I have ever worked at and I've danced all over the country.No schedule, show up and leave when you feel like it and the girls are actually nice to each other and very friendly ! If you actually work while you're there and hustle you can pull a grand a night and during season even more..no joke. I've worked at all the major clubs in town and this one is the best for me moneywise and everything else..you should look into it.

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    Damn! A grand a night at Bourbon Street?


    Is it true that the clubs you all have mentioned are particular in who they hire to be dancers? As in no stretch marks, need big breasts, low body fat, etc? Thass what I heard from a girl I know, but I'm hopin that is no where near true!

    What about Pantera? I went in there once , and the manager Dian (sp?) was mad cool, and so were all the staff and waitresses. Yep they was jockin me! JK. But it was nuthin but love. It was a Sunday at like 8 o'clock. The dancers seemed like they weren't havin fun at all. Plus me being female, I guess the girls in there were put off and don't even approach other females. Maybe they was lookin at me like I was competition or somen. Hell I wasn't in there to audition! Lol.

    Anyways, thass the only club I've been to so far (and I went a few weeks ago). I'm just glad to find these threads on Phoenix clubs cuz I'm sho finna get my *poor ty* on somewhere! Hee hee

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    club hire all different shapes! (because obviously not all custys like the same thing!) i make pretty good money and i'm a B34 i have stretch marks on my thighs. (you really cant see them under the lighting. )
    I have heard nothing nice about Pantera..so i won't say anything at all. lol. Just remember not to take what other girls tell you to heart. you really can't trust anyone in this buisness. but good luck to you.
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