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    Default What's wrong with my hair?

    Okay, I've dyed my hair a lot. I started dying my hair when I was about 12. Natural colors and unnatural colors.

    I finally, after about 2 and a half years, dyed my hair black rather than that pink color that you see in my picture over there. Well, I waited till all the pink came out and I used a permanent black. I've tried dying it a few different times with different permanent black dyes, and none of them are staying in. Its getting annoying. Right now if I'm out in what little sun we have here, or really bright lighting indoors, my hair looks black and gray!

    What is going on and is there anything I can do myself to fix it??? i would really like to avoid a salon if at all possible. I know this sounds weird, but ever since I was about 15, I've cut my own hair, I have a weird thing with people I don't know touching my head and playing with my hair.

    Thanks for the advice!
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    Oh my gosh i so feel you!! I have really light blonde hair and i tried to dye it dark brown and it came out PURPLE!! i looked like a big easter egg...After that, i got myself to the salon to getit fixed and he said (to make it short) that i stripped out all the pigment in my hair that would absorbed the brown dye...Needles to say he fix it, and it looked really good.

    I'm sorry but i dont know anything on how to fix the problem, so good luck and let us kkow what happens....I'm pretty sure a dancer here can help...

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    Hmm...Maybe BG or someone can enlighten you about it, but I'd just go to a stylist if my hair did that. Sorry I couldn't be of more help! :/

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    Default Re: What's wrong with my hair?

    Time for a COLORIST... Sounds like you need a filler. The previous color is distorting your end result. I'm assuming your pink was semi permanent. Although semi-perms only deposit color (therefore allowing it to wash off) I am also aumming that your natual color is light or your hair is porous or damaged so it's retaining artificial color. A good colorist should be able to figure out what's off balance and add that into your haircolor so that your end result is black.

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    Your problem sounds a lot like mine -- after so much messing with the pigment of your hair, it isn't "normal" and so permanent hair dyes (which are formulated to react with your hair, not just coat it) do strange things.

    I don't know if it would work for you, but I've decided to only use henna for natural colors and Special FX for unnatural colors; even if they don't take as well as I'd like them to, they don't ever seem to come out some completely different color. Henna is basically a dried and powdered plant that coats your hair with a natural protein, and it seems to work really well for me; it is messier and takes 30-45 minutes of processing time, but it's also pretty cheap. Henna comes in a lot of shades from pale red to bright red to chestnut brown and auburn to black. Colors not in that spectrum depend on other dyes, and I'd just reccomend going with Special FX if you want something crazier. There are also henna blends hat supposedly work really well in covering gray, so that might work for you. Just know that since it's coating your hair strands, (1) it will fade over time, so you'll have to redo it anywhere from once every two weeks to once every six weeks, depending on your hair, and (2) it will leave your hair feeling kind of weird and "squeaky" (for lack of a better word) for the first couple washes after you do it. It won't feel too weird once it dries, but it feels really strange when you're first rinsing the henna out.

    The major disadvantage of henna is that it can react badly with metal-containing compounds (and weaken your hair), so in addition to not preparing it in a metal bowl, you can't use most commerical hair dyes for 6 weeks after you henna your hair.
    For me, I really like how it conditions my hair, and how the slow fading means that my roots aren't noticeable until they get really long, so it's all I ever want to use. If you do decide to try it, you can get it at most natural food stores an co-ops. I use the Light Mountain brand.

    Oh yeah, and it's the same henna that's used for mehndi temporary tattoos, so wear gloves unless you like having interestingly colored palms (it doesn't seem to dye my scalp, but my palms absorb it like whoa.)

    Alternatively, you could pick up a bottle of one of the Special FX or RAW Color dyes (Hot Topic sells them, but for uber-markup -- try a more local punk or goth store) in cobalt blue, cherry red, wine, or something similar. They'll give you punky highlights and turn the grey-er bits into shiny colored streaks that show up in bright light. Just don't get the pots/jars of Special FX dye they sell at Sally's Beauty -- the formulation is different than the bottles, and the bottles are much much more potent.

    RAW has better staying power than Special FX, but on the flip-side, it doesn't ever seem to come all the way out. I used their teal, and while it looked awesome for almost three weeks (an eternity for blue-based colors), it faded to olive and stayed there until I had it stripped out by a professional.

    Special FX colors: Their cobalt fades through green to gunmetal grey, their atomic red fades to light red (not pink), cherry bomb fades to pink through purple, fuscia stays true but just gets lighter, whatever they call their dark purple fades to pink-purple.

    Yes, can you tell that I love me some unnatural hair colors?

    Anyway, best of luck! And if henna doesn't work out for you and you go to a stylist, remember to tell him/her that you henna'd your hair.
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    Well, shoot, i hate going to a stylist, but I guess maybe its time to go. Do you think that if I washed my hair at home and came in with wet hair that that would be okay?

    That's one of my biggest problems with salons, to me, heads are a sensual thing, and i don't want some stranger running their hands through my hair. I know its their job, and to them, its not sensual, but to me it is, it really freaks me out!

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    i HOPE THIS HELPS YOU
    look at what the base color is before dying your hair...if the base color says voilet..then it will give your hair the effect you have described.....You can only alter hair color by: a) depositing color (darkening), or b) lifting color (lightening). There are two types of color in hair, natural (pigment you are born with), and artificial (color that you have added).All artificial colors are created with three primary colors, yellow, red and blue. These color molecules have different molecular weight. Yellow is the smallest and penetrates the hair shaft the deepest and is the most difficult to get out. Next is red. Blue is the largest molecule so it will be the last to adhere to the hair shaft and will be the first to fall off. This is why hair more often than not turns orange with lots of yellow, a little red, hardly any blue. Whatever color that you want to achieve, in the end it is a combination of these three. Do not confuse this with light or dark hair. That is color density, not color. First you must achieve the level you want to be, then the color you want to be.color wheel , all hair color has a letter and a number on its label , the letter describes what color base is in that color .

    R = red base V = violet base G = ash base (green)

    B = blue base Y = yellow/gold base V = violet



    N = neutral ( neutral tones are not used a lot in corrective color )
    If your hair has to much of any of these color tones , you need to pick a color with the same or deeper level with the opposite color tone from the tone your trying to cut out from the chart below .
    figure out what the tone is that you want to cut out
    Pick a color that is the same level or darker than the one on your head with the tone that you have located on the color wheel , and apply
    TO CANCEL OUT THE GRAY OR VOILET COLOR IN YOUR HAIR USE A COLOR WITH A YELLOW OR GOLD BASE
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    it sounds to me like what your stylist said...

    if you've been constantly darkening and lightening your hair it's probably shot and can't hold the color. maybe a filler would help. i would think a warm one like red or gold if you are seeing grayish parts right now. i would think this would result in a reddish undertone in the sun.) i don't have tons of experience with fillers so i can't say for sure. also, get some Roux Porosity Control, that stuff works wonders on porous hair, i use it before i put toner on my hair to help keep it from turning green/blue/gray on the ends.

    if i were you i wouldn't go with henna, it is a metallic dye and if you were to use a regular haircolor again later, it could cause breakage/damage.

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    [QUOTE=LusciousLyzz]Well, shoot, i hate going to a stylist, but I guess maybe its time to go. Do you think that if I washed my hair at home and came in with wet hair that that would be okay?QUOTE]

    don't bother....they aren't going to wash it before they fix your color, and they will have to wash it afterwards. so you'll only be adding time to your visit b/c she'll probably blow dry it first before working on your color.
    you shouldn't wash your hair right before putting chemicals on it anyways, the hair should be dirty (not filthy, as in not washing for a week before. just don't wash the day of the service)

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    I agree with bikini, don't wash your hair before a chemical treatment.

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    Default Re: What's wrong with my hair?

    I had an outrageous shade of fire engine red on the lower layer of my hair (the upper part was dark brown) and after like 3 times of dyeing it I finally got it all the way covered up with my most recent black dye job.....I've been using Revlon's colorsilk line.......I used black brown a couple months ago.....and just this past sunday used black......all the red is gone and this stuff STAYS!!!

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