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    Me (21F) and my male "friend w/ benifit" go to the same club almost once a week. The thing that puzzles me is why do women dancers avoid women customers? If they ask if we're together we say no and i'll still get ignored. I smile at them, and compliment any girl that sits with us. I admire every girl in the room and go up to the main stage when a girl i find sexy is on (gladly giving them $$). I still only get 3% attention...they go right to him. Any explination would be nice.

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    Speak up and say that "you" would like a dance for yourself, sometimes we just assume and go for the guy.
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    some dancers just don't like dancing for females... bottom line... no offense to you...

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    And some female customers who come in with their boyfriend have some serious MEAN MUGS on their face. Some women have this look on their face of "ughhhh" and others look like "don't even think about it" at their boyfriends.

    My suggestion: If you find a dancer who turns you on, make eye contact, smile, or just wave her over. Let her know...







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    Exactly. I'll start with the woman and make her feel welcome but 50% of the time she's humoring the guy. It's better when it's a group of women because then I know I won't offend anyone. Unless of course I hit on a girl who's girlfriend is rabidly jealous. I hate that! It's just showbiz people. Lighten up!

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    It's pretty safe to assume that the man will spend (way) more money than the female. The fact that you are young means you'll spend even less. Strippers see you as a waste of their time + high drama potential so you're not worth them risking their good mood/vibe and putting their night off.

    Your best bet is to go often enough that the girls start getting to know you a bit and see that you're a good customer.

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    I always try to approach couples. I work well with them by making the girl feel comfortable. Plus, the guy likes that another girl is attracted to his girl. Many times they will get a few dances and leave after. I see them as easy money and a short fun time as well.

    Some dancers just dont like couples, have no hustling skills or think youre there to just oogle and not buy. If someone is tipping me damn well Im going over there to say hello.
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    I used to always approach women and couples but found in most instances that the females in the club are checking it out as a potential workplace, or have been dragged along by their man to 'spice up the sex life' or some such. When I have been successful in getting a dance for couples, the woman has have either been extremely uncomfortable or shitty at seeing her man getting attention froma sexy lady. It's very hard giving a dance to a couple when one is shitty and doesn't want you to near her or her man. The few females who have 'got into' the dance have always been way more rude rough and gropey than the men.
    So in a nutshell I have found it just isn't worth the bother approaching couples or women.

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    this should be a sticky topic, with an addendum that even though single female customers and couples can spend, they spend less overall because they vist significantly less often and generally spend less per visit than single male customers and male customers in groups of 5 or less. so therefore while they can whine all they want about dancers disregarding them, they do have to look at sum total of things. for every individual couple or female custy that spends say the magic 50-200$ per visit that we'd all like to get out of several customers per shift, most spend maybe 10-30$ on stage tips, possibly an additional 20 on a single dance (for both of them no less in many clubs).

    out of ten couples, maybe 1 will spend as well as two male friends coming to the club, and that well-spending couple will visit a fraction as often as the two buddies. sometimes when i see these bloodydamn posts about why couples and female customers are ignored, i really feel like it's special snowflake syndrome. and no, i don't intend that as flamebait, but, well, that's what it feels like.

    they are called 'gentlemen's clubs' for a reason, after all.

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    Well i may be in the majority here but i am just still nervous to approach couples. The one couple I did get the guts to approach... the girl kept saying she loved my chest and asked if i knew where drugs were. She was very drunk. Ofcourse, i do not hold that against couples that come into the club... i am still new to the game since i have been on and off dancing for about a year and a half...i would love if a female or couple approached me, and would be happy to dance for them. Something to think about...

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    I personally have had some very ugly encounters with females. One who was really drunk and halfway through dancing for her husband tried to bite me and called me an adultress...

    A few there to 'recruit' me to massage work.

    Then there are the swinger couples.

    Some of them are fun, I had two ladies who stared at me and kept saying, "my god she's nearly naked." Some will tip decently and chat, but for my stress and time, I'll pass them for the single men!

    In my club experiences, typical 'stripper' looking girls do best with most couples...

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    I stopped going to clubs with my guy friends because I didn't want the dancers to think that I was a disgruntled girlfriend of one of the guys I was with.
    Now I go alone & have no trouble getting dancer attention. I know that most straight girls probably want to go to a club with their BF, but going "stag" works very well for me.

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    i willlllll not dance for couples. I had a bad experience once. An old man with a young girl telling her to do stuff while i was dancing for her. (like take her top off and play with herself) She was clearly messed up and on drugs and she didn't want to do what he was asking. I didn't know how to end the dances at the time and I really wanted to say something... actually i asked her if she was ok when he wasn't looking and she nodded a sad/embaressed yes....

    eh.... no more couples... grrrrr

    Not for females either, unless they are friends. Or they have thousands in their pocket.... which has yet to happen from the female gender in my club.

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    oh... i am a pinpoint for couples and bachelor parties. I don't do either.

    I feel bad saying no.... Oh well.

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    Similar recent topic, and as I've stated here, females aren't the only customer demographic subject to such "discrimination".

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62729

    The reasons given here for ignoring certain groups of customers are perfectly valid. What I find interesting of course are the number of dancers who comment on being ignored themselves when they go to a club as a customer to scout it out.
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    ^^ well, I avoid bachelor parties unless thy give me money in hand as soon as I arrive at their table (hey, it happens.) They are usually a waste of time and either too drunk or insensitive to realize we need to make money.
    When it comes to girlies I let them do the hunting. If they tip me I approach and say thank you, if they want more of my attention, they usually let me know. I don't get many of them, but the ones that want dances or just to pay me for my time are always outgoing and enjoy themselves. Unles they approach me first with a tip or just talk, I tend to shy away from them. I'm not prejudiced, but I have had to many bad experiences and watched too many dancers get burned to try and make it a habit to approach the ladies...
    My advice is to pick the girl you want, tip her and then motion her over. I know it works for me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish
    Similar recent topic, and as I've stated here, females aren't the only customer demographic subject to such "discrimination".

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62729

    The reasons given here for ignoring certain groups of customers are perfectly valid. What I find interesting of course are the number of dancers who comment on being ignored themselves when they go to a club as a customer to scout it out.
    When I go to a club to scout it out I try not to talk to the dancers. I want to see the customers and the money making potential, the dancers don't affect my choice of the club. I guess that's just me, but then I don't frequent the clubs very often when I am not working, I hate to go into work on my day off. If I do visit a club I take my own advice and tip my fave, motion her over and proceed to spend all my money on her. I guess I am a one dancer kind of girl.
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    MIABELLA:
    Wow! i've never been more INSULTED in my life! I honor & respect you women with the highest praise i can think.
    "they are called 'gentlemen's clubs' for a reason, after all."
    I go there for the same reason men do! Sorry if you think so strongly that women are cheap (which is just cause a lot of bad apples ruined it for the rest). I just cant believe how blunt your comment was.

    Everyone else..thank you for your imput. I understand that many female customers have left a sour taste in your mouth. I never knew so many thought about it in such a negative way. It explains a lot. It sucks & is a little disheartning to know that when i go i'm considered "not worth it" or "cheap" cause i'm a young female.

    Thanks to everyone who replied!

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    If it's any consolation I think most female custys are sweet. They're so appreciatiative of attention and my fashions ! Yeah, they're a little frugal but fun overall.

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    Most girls stay away because couples usually have the 3-some fantasy and think we will leave with them. I once danced for a couple on their honeymoon! The guy was telling his new bride she should get breasts like mine, then asked if I liked women.She was so uncomfortable just staring at the floor trying to smile; I felt so bad for her I wanted to cry, I pretented I was up next on stage and left, I still can't get over what she was putting up with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyLittleSecret
    MIABELLA:
    Wow! i've never been more INSULTED in my life! I honor & respect you women with the highest praise i can think.
    "they are called 'gentlemen's clubs' for a reason, after all."
    I go there for the same reason men do! Sorry if you think so strongly that women are cheap (which is just cause a lot of bad apples ruined it for the rest). I just cant believe how blunt your comment was.

    Everyone else..thank you for your imput. I understand that many female customers have left a sour taste in your mouth. I never knew so many thought about it in such a negative way. It explains a lot. It sucks & is a little disheartning to know that when i go i'm considered "not worth it" or "cheap" cause i'm a young female.

    Thanks to everyone who replied!
    look, if you actually read my entire post, you'd see that i did say female customers and couples spend. but they spend so much less than male customers that their increased presence in clubs designed for an exclusively male audience reduces dancer income. if you respect us so much, you shouldn't be upset about the fact that your presence can often cost us money. honestly, couples and single female customers have to spend and attend like men do, and for them, that just isn't ever going to happen. if stripclubs were mostly women and couples attending, they could only afford to be open like 2-3 days of the week, and only one of those days would offer any decent earnings.

    again, i am sure you feel you are a unique and special snowflake who really cares, but money talks, and you know the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miabella
    look, if you actually read my entire post, you'd see that i did say female customers and couples spend. but they spend so much less than male customers that their increased presence in clubs designed for an exclusively male audience reduces dancer income. if you respect us so much, you shouldn't be upset about the fact that your presence can often cost us money. honestly, couples and single female customers have to spend and attend like men do, and for them, that just isn't ever going to happen. if stripclubs were mostly women and couples attending, they could only afford to be open like 2-3 days of the week, and only one of those days would offer any decent earnings.

    again, i am sure you feel you are a unique and special snowflake who really cares, but money talks, and you know the rest.

    Your ability to make sweeping generalizations is amazing. I happen to spend considerable $$$$ when I club, which is weekly. But according to you, "that's never going to happen", so I guess I don't exist. Bwahahaha!
    And since when are SC's mostly women & couples? Oh yeah.....all 6 of us in a club are costing you a fortune, huh? Gimme a break.
    OK....I'm done with this nonsense. I'm off to my club for some special dancer attention. Oh yeah...and I might even spend some $$$$ too.

    Props to the fine dancers that make us ALL feel welcome. You know who you are.

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    That blows. Can I transplant you to Florida? I love dancing for women! More so than men.
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    ^^^Me, too. I think it's an exaggeration to say that "most" women customer are cheap, "most" couples want a threesome, and so on. At least in my experience, plenty of girls will buy dances, either because they're genuinely attrracted to/curious about women, or because they want to impress their friends. I love dancing for girls and find them easier to sell dances to than the average guy.

    I'm in the minority, though. A lot of dancer are looking for the one magic customer who will pay them $$$$ to sit in VIP for hours and look pretty. Female customers rarely fit this mold, so these dancers ignore them. Many dancers aren't used to hustling women and don't know how. They're missing out because there can be good money in women customers, especially if you can get her boyfriend/guy friends buying dances for her and essentially paying to watch.

    There is the occasional weird situation where a female customer clearly doesn't want to be in the club, or pulls some condescending bullshit with the dancers, but most girls are there to have fun, and that makes my job fun, in turn. Not to mention, girls are much less likely to play head games or demand an OTC relationship. And they're soft. <sigh>

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    It's too bad that so many dancers have a poor opinion of couples and women in the clubs. As the female part of a couple, I still say dancers should hit us up. Hubby and I go to SC about 3-5 times a week and we never walk in without a couple of hundred bucks to spend. Yes, he does think it's hot when I get attention from hot dancers. I love the attention too.

    However, if no one tries to hustle us (even though I'm tipping the stage and smiling ear to ear), we'll leave after the first drink and go spend our money somewhere else. It seems a shame....

    Lucky for me, there are only a handful of clubs in this town and we're regulars at most of them, so I don't get ignored very often.

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