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    Default Re: Where to draw the line for lap dances...

    Quote Originally Posted by miabella
    if you're so great, you should step up and make that supposed greatness work for you, otherwise you sound just like the waitresses who go home with 60 in a nine hour shift and sneer at the dancers because 'at least i get to keep my clothes on and leave with my dignity'. hmmm. you know?
    Mia, we are stepping up! We're trying to prove a point that in order to be the best dancer you dont' have to grind a guy to death. The problem that I've had with this thread is that some people feel like they have to do a little more than everyone else, because that is what sells. Hell, if everyone keeps pushing a lil more, then a lil more afterthat, then just a tiny bit more after that you'll all be doing extras.

    You're right, not all dancers are fortunate enough to have the opportunity to work in a club where they don't have to lapdances. You say that waitresses snear, "well at least I have my dignity" Well actually that's the same thing I say too. Yes, I do dance at an all nude club, but I'm not lowering myself to make $20/dance to rub up against some dudes cock all night. [email protected] that.

    If you continue to assume you are average, then you will be treated as average. I carry myself like a young lady, and I hold my head up high. Now, I'm not saying that I"m better than you, or that you're better than me. The fact remains that until dancers start taking some control over the way they perform as an individual, then their may be some progress.

    You ladies are always bitching and complaining about the "good ol' days" when money was sooooooooooo good. And why is it bad now? Because of girls who are willing to do the extra mile to make that $$$. Do you think extras (hardcore grinding, kissing, licking HJ, BJ) started overnight? Hell no! It started with 1 dancer going just a little bit over the line of what was considered the norm. The it escalates...people see that she is making more, so they feel as if they need to do the same to keep an edge. THAT, is the problem. And until people wake up and start to realize this, you can't blame anyone, until you start to take a look at yourself. All it takes is one person.







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    Default Re: Where to draw the line for lap dances...

    I read through this thread and there's a question that comes to mind with this "lap" versus "air" debate.

    What do you suppose old school strippers thought (and I mean really old school strippers from the era of stage only performances) when the dancing came off of the stage and girls started performing one-on-one dances (and I mean air dances) for customers? I mean, isn't that precisely the point where dancing became less of a show business and more of a service business? Wouldn't lap dances be the natural evolvement of that? (or devolvement if you wish to look at it that way).

    If they had SW back then and they were discussing such a matter, I can only imagine what such a thread would look like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxey
    Thank y'all for your wonderful suggestions on how to give a fabulous air dance Very helpful. Saying that grinding is an extra is extremely self righteous. Here I am one of those wicked horrible extras whores because I give contact lap dances and I'm asking for guidance and suggestions for giving lower contact dances and all y'all can do is bicker at each other. WTF! How is that helping anyone who really wants some suggestions? There is a huge difference between dry humping and the occasional 10 second grind in a lap dance. Yeah if you are literally dry humping a custy for the whole song that is just raunchy, tacky, and probably boring as hell for the custy unless they are a total PL. However if you throw in a quick 10 second grind at the end of the song and it sells the next dance whats wrong with that? OMG you're such a better person than me because you hover 5 inches above the guys pants when you're dancing. Do you guys know how ridiculous that sounds? Seriously think about it. Like greenlady said we're all strippers... so she with out sin casts the first stone. So why don't some of you perfect angels share some tips for a more heavenly lap dance instead of bashing the hell out of the rest of us?
    Anyone can "throw in" a quick 10 second grind and sell more dances but it takes a woman with real talent to sell more dances.This is the same mentality as the girls who find nothing wrong shoving their naked vaginas in the cuctomers' faces.Anyone can do those things to get attention.
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    Taken from http://www.musicals101.com/burlesque.htm

    The strippers soon dominated burlesque, and their routines became increasingly graphic. To avoid total nudity but still give the audience what it wanted, the ladies covered their groins with flimsy G-strings and used "pasties" to cover their nipples. This was usually enough to keep the cops at bay, even though pasties were far more vulgar that a plain naked breast.

    Taken from:Strippers Are Us
    The sexual naiveté of Pretty Things, HBO's new documentary on burlesque.
    By Rachel Shteir
    Posted Tuesday, July 19, 2005, at 8:10 AM ET

    Burlesque was no Broadway: Men masturbated under newspapers, sometimes to the rhythm of whatever the orchestra was playing, as Lois de Fee recounts. The women lived through raids, botched plastic surgery, nervous breakdowns, abusive bosses, jail time, fires, and stage-door Johnnies.

    It doesnt look like stripping has changed all that much to me!

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    Default Re: Where to draw the line for lap dances...

    Well, in hard core south florida you can do what you want for the most part. I use the almighty dollar as my "affection" gage.

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