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    Default Blackworm Virus

    CO, Mast.. A little help here, please.

    The Husband's PC is pretty fucked at the moment. Avast has found a TON of viruses and malware, and it acts like it's deleting what it's found after that option is selected. Then, it says it needs to reboot to clean the system. After booting back up, it finds the shit again. He's had popups from hell. Also, his Task Manager is completely gone off his system. So, we can't see what's loading and we can't stop it from loading. I'm assuming that's an added bonus to this lovely virus, because he sure as hell didn't delete that.

    I've downloaded Firefox and Microsoft AntiVirus for him to use when he's done with this, but.. That doesn't help now.

    (And yes.. He's a dumbass. Up until today, he's been using Internet Explorer, against my advice.)

    I've got a boot-scan going on right now on his PC, but I think he already did that earlier and it didn't help.

    What do you guys think? What should the next steps be?

    I'm wiped out right now so I'm headed to bed. I'll check the thread when I get up. Thanks for any help in advance.

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    I started getting pop-ups the other day and Microsoft pop-ups saying I had the Blackworm Virus. I figured it must had got in there recently since I had never had them before so I did a system restore to three days earlier and that cleared the problem up completely. I don't use Norton Anti-Virus. I got on to this Panda software that sells at Staples. You get 24 hour support with that from someone in America. The company is based out of OK. On my old computer I use to use Kazaa. I got 7 viruses from sharing files with people and downloading files. I now use Napster which isn't free but legal and clean. If you think your system is completely screwed you can reload your system. It deletes all data though. You can purchase the software to do this at Staples as well but you better make sure you have all your Windows and Microsoft data to load it back up with.

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    Nah.. It's my Husband's system, so I'm not about to reformat on him. He's always used Limewire without a problem, so I know it's not something he downloaded off there. It was most likely a web site that he went to. He's got the Blackworm, but he's also got about 46 Trojans.

    Anyhoo.. I'm tired of looking at his monitor, so I'm off to bed. I'll check back later to see if one of the gurus have responded.

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    Default Re: Blackworm Virus

    http://housecall65.trendmicro.com/ always seems to work for me in a pinch.

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    Default Re: Blackworm Virus

    If that doesnt work I really hate to say this but you may have to whipe the hard drive and start over.


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    on restart a white bar will show up at the bottom for a brief moment saying press f8 for boot options. Press f8.

    When the system gives you a list, choose safe mode with networking.

    Once the system is booted, as quick as you can open up internet explorer and go to housecall.trendmicro.com

    Follow the prompts to perform a complete scan on your system.

    If you can't see some buttons due to screen size, use the tab button. Let me know.

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    Default Re: Blackworm Virus

    Geez, thanks to you Rhi, I downloaded Mozilla Firefox and I'm not going to use IE anymore....

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    Mast took the words right out of my mouth. Run 2 or 3 different spyware killers like AdAware and Spybot Search & Destroy while in safe mode. The issue with many of these viruses is that they install in two components. The first component is the virus/spyware itself and is what gives you the popups etc. The second component checks several times a minute to see if the first component is still there. If it isn't, then it reinstalls it. This is why you can delete the file and still be infected because the installer keeps reinstalling the file you just deleted. When you go to delete the installer portion, you can't because it's actually a program running in the background.

    When in safe mode, only your basic essentials to keep the system running are running in the background, so when you run your virus/anti-spyware software it's able to get a lot more of the problem childs because none of them are running at the moment. When they aren't running, they can be deleted.

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    ^^^Or just go ahead and get a Mac, after which you can pretty well forget about virus problems and doublely so if you can also avoid using any of MS's software for Macs (though that is less convenient).

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    Well.. I just got up and found that Dan went and reformatted. He said when he turned on his PC this morning, Avast wouldn't shut up. At least it was his decision, I sure as hell wasn't going to do it on my own.

    Mast... It wouldn't even let me reboot in Safe Mode last night. It just kept totally ignoring the fact that I had pressed F8. And like I mentioned, it had completely wiped the Task Manager off his system.

    Apparently, Avast was helpless with this. Because whatever the main virus was, would get deleted by Avast, and reinstall itself on reboot.

    One of the lovely messes he had on there was a downloader too. Gotta love that shit. So there were a ton of windows opening up saying that "______ was downloading", and I couldn't cancel shit.

    Oh well.. I just lectured him AGAIN about using IE, and he promised he wouldn't anymore. (Sorry, Feiticeria.. IE is horrible.. lol)

    For anyone that has Microsoft AntiSpyware (like myself) or wants to download it, they've come out with a new version and are no longer offering it under that name. They've changed the name to . Same program, but more features.

    And for the love of Conan and all that's holy.. DO NOT USE IE! Don't uninstall it from your system.. Just leave it there, because you'll need it for security updates and all that happy horseshit. But do not use it for browsing. You do NOT want to deal with what I had to last night on his computer.

    Final tally on the Trojans though---63! I didn't even get to count the main viruses, but they were up there in numbers too.

    Whew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wwanderer
    ^^^Or just go ahead and get a Mac, after which you can pretty well forget about virus problems and doublely so if you can also avoid using any of MS's software for Macs (though that is less convenient).

    -Ww

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    Run 2 or 3 different spyware killers like AdAware and Spybot Search & Destroy while in safe mode.
    Just to be clear, these two tools are less than worthless; both of their parent companies are facing lawsuits from spyware producers and have been forced to change their definition signatures as a result. There are but a handful of truly effective anti-spyware tools available from companies with large, well-heeled legal teams:

    Webroot's SpySweeper
    Sunbelt's CounterSpy
    Ewido's Anti-Malware
    PC Tools' Spyware Doctor

    Ewido and CounterSpy offer free trials of their software, which will normally clean a system in a single pass. Most everything else out there on the market is incomplete in both removal and prevention--including the Microsoft/Giant system (Windows Defender).

    Or just go ahead and get a Mac, after which you can pretty well forget about virus problems and doublely so if you can also avoid using any of MS's software for Macs (though that is less convenient).
    You can also forget about games and a broader array of both hardware and software availability. Like Mast said, posts like these add nothing to the solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer
    You can also forget about games and a broader array of both hardware and software availability. Like Mast said, posts like these add nothing to the solution.
    Yeah, one of the really super games that comes free with every PC running Windows is not available at all for the Mac. It is the one where you are forced to spend your time, energy and money battling an unseen hoard of real, live but anonymous human opponents spread around the globe as they try to use an ever changing array of sophisticated technical tricks to destroy all your valuable and often painstakingly created/obtained files and to render your computer useless to you. Moreover, unlike most computer games, the cost of failure in this "game" is not loss of some pretend/hypothetical "life" which has no significance at all outside the game, rather losing this fascinating game can actually make your real life miserable in multiple ways. So, you actually have something real and meaningful to fight for, whether you like it or not. Probably the best computer game ever, right?

    More seriously, even though the above paragraph and my previous post were rather flip, I really do disagree with your claim above that switching to Macs "adds nothing to the solution". Imo, it does indeed offer a possible and quite effective solution to the problem of computer viruses, worms and so forth...one that most users should seriously consider.

    Now, I am not one of those (all too common) people who have a loyalty to one type of hardware, OS or software that comes close to religious fanaticism. In other words, I don't blindly claim that Macs are better than PCs in all ways for all purposes and for all users. If you are one, with the reverse "religious" preferences, then this conversation won't go far on a rational basis. However, if you are reasonably open minded about computers, I think it is hard to deny that either choice has pluses and minuses:

    It is certainly true, for example, that you can get substantially cheaper equivalent hardware, have a larger selection of hardware and a *much* larger selection of computer games by going the PC route. It is also clearly true, imo, that Mac users have *enormously* less trouble with hackers and their products, so little in fact that it is practical to completely ignore the whole problem for many/most Mac users, and that such problems are much more than a minor annoyance for PC users. In other words, it is not a silly difference (like having the shutdown command in the "start" menu); as many from this site will atest, computer security (hacker) problems are a *major* hassle and very significantly reduce the usefulness of the computer for a lot of PC/Windows users. If you don't think so, just ask them? Whether or not the sacrifice of paying more, having a smaller selection of hardware and giving up most computer games (but you can always get a PlayStation or X-Box or whatever if you are really that interested in video games, right?) in order to be able to ignore hacker threats seems to me to be something about which reasonable people might disagree, or more precisely, might make different rational choices based on the particulars of their situation.

    (As an aside, the days in which Macs were far inferior to PCs in non-game apps and/or file compatibility are now well in the past in my experience. Except for very specialized and tiny niche market apps, pretty much everything else is available for Macs, and it has been many years since I have encountered any problems transfering any variety of files from Macs to PCs or vice versa.)

    In short, I think you are wrong-o on this one.

    -Ww

    PS - Are you sure that's what Mast meant? When I read it, I thought he hated posts like mine because they are so gaulingly true!
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    To be honest, with mac moving to x86 hardware compliancy, it wont be long befor eyou start to see similar issues, especially as macs become more popular.

    *Sigh*

    Eitherway, I can't stand posts like yours because rhia wasn't asking for suggestions on what pc to buy since she is so annoyed with her PC, nor was she hinting to the oppertunity to use something else. Your post is useless because it assumes that she has next to 500 - 1200 to spend on a whole new system cause she got a virus. Not to mention software. It's a pet peeve because I see it all the time. It's like taking your Ford in to get repaired and the mechanic telling you you should go out and buy a mercedes. Personal opinion only no offense intended, I just find stuff like that insulting. But like I said, I see it all the time.

    I use a mac cause it stays out of my way the most, and yup, everytime I mention a shortcoming or potential improvement someone is right there with their thumb up their ass telling me how life is so much better on a pc cause that shortcoming is on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mastridonicus
    To be honest, with mac moving to x86 hardware compliancy, it wont be long befor eyou start to see similar issues, especially as macs become more popular.
    Very few hacks are hardware based these days, so I doubt the x86s will bring Mac users much grief, but I agree that an increasing Mac market share probably will. It is not that Macs have intrinsically more secure software, it is simply that why would someone spend time writing an exploit that addresses only a few percent of the computers out there when it is just as easy to do one that will hit well over 90%.

    It's like taking your Ford in to get repaired and the mechanic telling you you should go out and buy a mercedes. Personal opinion only no offense intended, I just find stuff like that insulting. But like I said, I see it all the time.
    I like your "PCs are to Macs as Ford is to Mercedes" analogy!

    But seriously, OK, now I see your point and understand it. No insult intended of course and no offense taken either. Fwiiw, I tend to assume that open threads are being read by and are of use to people other than the one who initiated it (else they should be PM correspondence). In other words, I mostly intended to suggest something (in a flip way) to anyone who might be reading the thread and contemplating buying a new system soon or at some point.

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    ^ Those are anti-spyware programs, not anti-viral programs. While some Trojan horses and worms are carriers for spyware, anti-spyware programs are not enough protection for truly malicious and dangerous payloads.

    For an effective, free antivirus program, go to Avast and install their Home Edition.
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