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    I think the moderation is way overboard but I can understand it. To quote FBR “Easy, to be honest the Junkies have been so kind I think they (we) are all on Prozac. Back in the day, you would have been whipped within an inch of your life. Must be due to excessive moderation by Jay and me. We've all turned into sensitive PC wimps”

    It does seem to me that most of the guys here are on some kind of mellowing out medication. The real world of dancers and customers is simply not like the one that is portrayed here. But I can see that the majority of the site is women and needs to be governed by their rules. The content is so fascinating that it makes up for the over moderation, parochial and ethnocentric points of view.

    I don’t mind being attacked or insulted. I think most times I present a viewpoint different from someone else and they have nothing intelligent to refute it with so they attack the person instead of the point of view.

    I am a little gun shy about posting on the pink side after they banned me and then took off the ban. Maybe I was out of line. I don’t really know.

    I really want to post in the dominant or submissive thread but I have a feeling if I posted what I really thought or have experienced I would get banned again. I went to a D&S strip club last week and took a couple of DOM’s to a VIP room and told them what I wanted and they insisted they did not do that because they were dominant. I threw money at them till I got a smile and then one said she would and we got a bottle of rum and the other, a little tipsy decided she would try after all. I mean really, how interesting is it for a DOM to be a DOM. It’s the man bites dog thing. Besides I like to see DOM's crawling on the floor and clucking like chickens.

    I think it is delusional to call a stripper dominant. I think that would be an interesting discussion but it is obvious to me that it would go beyond the comfort levels of most of the dancers on this board.

    There is another thread on the pink site I would love to post in about a DJ that is sick and tired of 30 dollar blow jobs and 100 dollar hand jobs at his club.

    I suppose he is going to be surprised when this week three of the good looking dancers come up to him and say. “Do you know what happened to me tonight? 5 guys came up to me and asked me for a 100 dollar hand job, what a joke I don’t do those for less than 200” and the 30 dollar blow job girls will be having a ball and record business because his post is probably reprinted on 10 Florida message boards by now.

    And this guy thinks he is not a part of the problem. I guess he has never heard if you are not part of the answer you are part of the problem.

    But I would not post it there because it would offend his sensibilities and he seems like a real sensitive guy. Or the DJ is really trying to promote his club and I must admit he is doing a good job of letting everyone know that super high mileage is available there.



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    hahah...welcome back...tread carefully.


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    Mark:

    I love reading your posts. I think they are entertaining and promote good discussion. But the impression I always get is that you are trying to speak for a universal that doesn't exist.

    While I am sure that, in your world, everything is pretty much the way you describe it. What I am not sure of, is that your world is "The Real World of Strippers and Customers." For example, I see a very different world. My experiences are different.

    I have been to Florida clubs. I have been to Thailand and visited the "clubs" there. I have been to EXTREME high mileage clubs.

    I have never had an OOC encounter of any kind. I have never been offered a $30 blow job or a $100 hand job.

    Does this make my world, which is much like the world described on this board, invalid? Nope, it just makes it mine. I suppose that, if I went to a dominant club, or if I made it obvious that I would pay $100 for a hand job, these opportunities might open up to me. However, they are not the experience I seek, and so, I suppose, they pass me by.

    It is a wide open world. It takes all kinds. Just because lots of people here talk about tamer experiences than the ones you know to be out there doesn't mean that they are medicated or moderated.

    -gen
    "See, believe it or not (and I don't care whether you do), it's never been about the sex. I get sex at home, anytime, and we like it, and it's good for both of us. No, my stripclub experience has been about acceptance, and affirmation, and desirability...There have been some women who have a personality that just clicks with mine, and in the faux-sex atmosphere of the club, it's a mix that is completely seductive." - Jay Zeno

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark45y
    It does seem to me that most of the guys here are on some kind of mellowing out medication.
    You mean those weren't Jolly Ranchers?
    Former SCJ now in rehab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GenWar
    Mark:

    I love reading your posts. I think they are entertaining and promote good discussion. But the impression I always get is that you are trying to speak for a universal that doesn't exist.
    Bingo, we have a winner!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mark45y
    I think the moderation is way overboard but I can understand it. To quote FBR “Easy, to be honest the Junkies have been so kind I think they (we) are all on Prozac. Back in the day, you would have been whipped within an inch of your life. Must be due to excessive moderation by Jay and me. We've all turned into sensitive PC wimps”
    My comment was tongue in cheek. I thought that was obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark45y
    I think it is delusional to call a stripper dominant.

    That's the most perturbing thing. You're always generalizing. This is just a blatent example of what you do in more words everywhere else.

    Right, once she becomes a stripper, she loses all domination in or out of the club... Just because in your mind, paying money to be a sub still makes the sub in control doesn't mean that's how it is. Just cause you think it, doesn't make it true.
    People are not ruled by their memories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FBR
    My comment was tongue in cheek. I thought that was obvious.

    FBR
    It was.
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    I can think of one example of a person who desperately needs medication and isn't taking his.

    If being here causes you so much angst, why bother? Leave.

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    ^^ Are you talkin' to me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mastridonicus
    That's the most perturbing thing. You're always generalizing. This is just a blatent example of what you do in more words everywhere else.
    Why does it perturb you?



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    Quote Originally Posted by smartcookie
    I can think of one example of a person who desperately needs medication and isn't taking his.

    If being here causes you so much angst, why bother? Leave.
    What is wrong with angst?



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    But the impression I always get is that you are trying to speak for a universal that doesn't exist.
    Another cigar for the man, please.

    I'm developing a universal opinion about mark45y...anyone else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark45y
    What is wrong with angst?
    Lol, angst!? you've blown past angst into full-blown persecution complex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mark45y
    Why does it perturb you?
    Cause you blame STRIPPERS for your failings as a person. Just because you love one that's somewhere in FL.
    People are not ruled by their memories.

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    Update on my love life for Mastridonicus



    I fell in love with her before she was a stripper. And that was the person I was in love with.

    There was a time about six months ago that she was getting a passport and was going to join me here.

    It takes a very strong woman to be a stripper and not be effected by the working conditions, the customers and the atmosphere in general.

    You see it here if you follow the progressions of posts of one person for a couple of years. I read certain people on the pink site. One woman in particular has made a rapid decline in the past six months. You can tell by the tenor of her posts. She started innocently enough and then her life crashed.

    All the ladies think they are exceptions to the rule and won’t be changed. They think they can withstand psychological pressures and the environment and escape unscathed the same person that they were before they began. Some even find it empowering.

    A few can and they are obvious and everyone knows who they are. The others are dragged in and changed forever.

    I am afraid the love of my life was not strong enough. She worked at two high mileage clubs/brothels and one air dance club where a significant number of the dancers were on heroin. She left Florida with her lesbian pimp for brighter or darker horizons depending on your point of view. She said she was going to stop stripping but I doubt it. The lure of the fast money is great and she made big bucks.

    I sent her pimp a letter detailing my feelings about her and her bloodsucking lifestyle and that was that. It was not a kind letter. They severed all contact with me and I with them. I am not bitter about it.

    I truly like young women. I like the way they feel and the way they approach life but I came to the realization I can’t have one. There are just too many differences. Sometimes I still get tempted in a club or even a grocery store but then I read stripper web and am reminded of the wide gap in life experiences and the slim chance of it working out.

    I don’t think I have ranted about my failings as a person here and I certainly don’t blame my life be it good or bad on strippers or ex wives or any other person.





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    Quote Originally Posted by mark45y
    You see it here if you follow the progressions of posts of one person for a couple of years. I read certain people on the pink site. One woman in particular has made a rapid decline in the past six months. You can tell by the tenor of her posts. She started innocently enough and then her life crashed.
    are you talking about the stripper damage theory?
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    I don’t know what the stripper damage theory is.

    Although I did read the thread about negative stripper stereotypes. You know the abuse and drug stuff on the pink site. The results were:

    Yes stripper stereotypes are accurate 3

    No stripper stereotypes are not accurate 5

    Did not answer the question 20

    You will be happy to hear that all of the members of the junkie site said that all of those nasty stripper stereotypes were not true in the least. How dare you even ask.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mark45y
    I don’t know what the stripper damage theory is.

    .
    Here's the theory:

    Despite the constant chant you hear that "it's just a job." This ain't just any old job. We get paid $20 for seductively writhing over and nuzzling against desperate, lonely men, for 3 to 4 minutes, while virtually naked. We arouse them as much as possible to get them to continue spending money on more affection and sensual attention from us, but not enough to have an orgasm.

    It's like flipping burgers, except for the intensive sexual-emotional labor involved.

    Supposedly doing this job for a long time can fuck you up. Lily Burama wrote about this in her book "Strip City" and called it stripper damage.

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    No, I don’t believe it! Stripping can fuck you up! What an outlandish idea.

    All the strippers I know are perfectly well adjusted and have very normal and productive lives. I don’t know how anybody could peddle that trash and expect people to believe it



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    Quote Originally Posted by robertgrahammodel
    Here's the theory:

    Despite the constant chant you hear that "it's just a job." This ain't just any old job. We get paid $20 for seductively writhing over and nuzzling against desperate, lonely men, for 3 to 4 minutes, while virtually naked. We arouse them as much as possible to get them to continue spending money on more affection and sensual attention from us, but not enough to have an orgasm.

    It's like flipping burgers, except for the intensive sexual-emotional labor involved.

    Supposedly doing this job for a long time can fuck you up. Lily Burama wrote about this in her book "Strip City" and called it stripper damage.
    Just an observation: if they hate it so much and it fucks them up so bad, why do they do it?
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    How many people do you know who feel they have unlimited agency in choosing their work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by easy_e
    Just an observation: if they hate it so much and it fucks them up so bad, why do they do it?
    I'm sure many a lawyer has asked themselves the same question.
    Former SCJ now in rehab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robertgrahammodel
    Here's the theory: Despite the constant chant you hear that "it's just a job." This ain't just any old job. We get paid $20 for seductively writhing over and nuzzling against desperate, lonely men, for 3 to 4 minutes, while virtually naked. We arouse them as much as possible to get them to continue spending money on more affection and sensual attention from us, but not enough to have an orgasm. It's like flipping burgers, except for the intensive sexual-emotional labor involved. Supposedly doing this job for a long time can fuck you up.
    sure, it's idea that stripping inherently has certain occupational hazards. for example, the nature of certain high-stress occupations may carry higher incidents of alcoholism, divorce, etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by robertgrahammodel
    Lily Burama wrote about this in her book "Strip City" and called it stripper damage.
    really? i never read the book, but i've heard the phrase bandied about on ass-c as early as 96 or 97.
    Quote Originally Posted by easy_e
    Just an observation: if they hate it so much and it fucks them up so bad, why do they do it?
    the opportunity to make $$$ for unskilled labor. despite all this talk from the industry itself or customers about intelligence or education being a necessity. that's just marketing hype. frankly, sc aren't interested in the curriculum vitae of their applicants and customers don't give IQ tests. in any case, no one really knows if stripping is emotionally scaring or not. OTOH, how many 18 yo do you think are emotionally prepared to handle the sex industry? OTOH, perhaps certain tendencies were present before stripping. in that case, they may be impressionable or those tendencies may be exacerbated by the industry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by easy_e
    Just an observation: if they hate it so much and it fucks them up so bad, why do they do it?
    Um, For the money.
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