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    there are certain girls in the industry who think they are all high & mighty and therefore can charge a guy extra or sometimes double the price of the original lap dance price (for example $300 for 30 min. when the normal price is $200; $30 for a lap dance when the price is $20).

    So how do you all feel about this?
    Personally I think it is wrong because the guy may feel like he was ripped off when he gets a dance from a different girl who charges the standard price (for that club). This happens quite often at my club because I hear the complaints all the time. Should I try to do anything about it?

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    If the club actually has SET prices? THen yes, that is shady, sneaky, and ripping off customers. This CAN ruin business for everyone else there. Me personally? I'd out them to the managers in a heartbeat.
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    I'm in agreeance too, I'm not into it either. My observations are that customers tend to feel really pissed off afterwards if they find out they've been charged more than the set rate and then that has a negitive effect on the club and dancers in the future. (Because you want customers to come back and tell all their friends how great the club and you and the other dancers are, not go away saying negitive things which makes our work harder in the long run!) Often I've noticed that the girls who do this are great sales people but shit dancers so customers leave feeling really ripped off cos they haven't had a good experience and they've payed double for it.

    I don't know what you can do about any of it though.

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    This is what the professional call girls do, charge more for being "more attractive" or somehow "hotter". It's a supply/demand thing. If you can market it well, someone will buy it -- sort of like the PTBarnum quote, but more fun.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

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    this was jsut discussed in Hustle Hut
    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63766

    some girls thought it was not worth the risk. Some girls thought it was. Customers emphatically hated it (shocker!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by exotisch23
    there are certain girls in the industry who think they are all high & mighty and therefore can charge a guy extra or sometimes double the price of the original lap dance price (for example $300 for 30 min. when the normal price is $200; $30 for a lap dance when the price is $20).
    Should I try to do anything about it?
    What made you choose that phrase? Are these girls abusing you with a condescending attitude or are you presuming to know their feelings? Is there a rule against it at your club or not? Do you want one? At my club, Thank God, they allow the independent contractor to set her own price. They don't set it for you putting a cap on earning potential. Do you want to destroy their earnings because you feel bad for the guys or yourself? Be sure of your motivation because the management may not take to your suggestion and now you'll get WAY more attitude.

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    I don't think there is anything wrong with it as long as the customer is informed in advance that it is more than the 'standard' price.

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    I just think its better not o charge the extra money. Id rather have a long time customer than one time laps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exotisch23
    there are certain girls in the industry who think they are all high & mighty and therefore can charge a guy extra or sometimes double the price of the original lap dance price (for example $300 for 30 min. when the normal price is $200; $30 for a lap dance when the price is $20).
    I dont' think they assume they are high and mighty. I think they KNOW their true worth. Quit being a hater If you had the option of selling a normally priced VIP/Champagne room for $300 when everyone else is charging $200, you'd be feeling pretty dam good about yourself..right? So then what is wrong with their girls who are using their hustling skills/techniques to perfect their craft.

    Which is worse...a girl charging $10 on a $20 dance, or the girl who ups her price to $30?? Me personally, the girl undercutting the prices is the one hurting the business.







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    Well undercutting is way different. A girl would sooo be selling herself short. No sense in working if you are going to be cheap. We all know we are worth the stated prices and then some.
    Example: I upped my bench show charge from the low $160 to $200. The guy plopped down $200 like nothing and then afterwards gave me a $50 tip.
    Underselling or low balling would have gotten me maybe the $160 (getting the higher priced show) + $50= $210. I just made an extra $40 by stating the common price for that type of show.

    Back to topic: Id feel pretty dumb if I saw a customer I gave the higher priced dances too getting dances from a different girl who gives regular priced dances. Im sure by now he'd find out and he'd feel ripped off. He might not even come back to the club if he was over charged.
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    What Paige said. If the clubs rules are $XX per song, period, then she's out of line. If the rules are "make sure you get at least $XX per LD", then she's within her rights to charge whatever she feels her services are worth.

    My club has a big 'ol sign in the table dance area that says, "Private dances are $20 per song". I kinda like it, it takes out a lot of the guess work and discourages the girls who, like Cinnamon mentioned, are hurting the rest of us by undercutting thier prices. Most custies tip on top of that, so it's not such a big deal.

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    I would suggest that a customer tell the manager that the particular woman is price gouging.

    Or better yet, tip a bouncer to do it .

    A set price list is a must for good working conditions in my opinion. Both price gouging and under cutting create a poor working enviroment over time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TigersMilk
    Back to topic: Id feel pretty dumb if I saw a customer I gave the higher priced dances too getting dances from a different girl who gives regular priced dances. Im sure by now he'd find out and he'd feel ripped off. He might not even come back to the club if he was over charged.
    Why? Some clubs let the dancers set their own prices. I feel that if you approach them and let them know that you charge X in price, whereas the others charge Y, tell him WHY you're the better choice. It's about sales..

    Why buy a mediocre $10 dance, when you can get one from me for $20 True, some men want the "biggest bang for their buck" but then again you also find guys who prefer "quality over quanity"







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    I was more or less referring to places where they have signs of set prices instead of places that let dancers charge whatever they want.
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    Ahhh I got cha! It's in my contract that our dance prices are SET! Bummer..I would charge extra if I could.







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    Most clubs they're set; others, there's a "minimum gratuity" for a dance. I think you're obligated to tell a customer upfront what the dance price is, but honestly, I assume most guys know the price in my club. I don't think anyone really charges more there.

    If customers are willing to pay it and they know what she's going to charge upfront, I see nothing wrong with it. I think it's a lot more shady when a dancer tries to alter the dance count in her favor; i.e. "That was ten songs, not seven, baby."

    That being said, one club I worked at reduced dance prices once, from $30 to $25. Quite a few of us continued to charge and get $30 after that for quite some time, but we would always tell the guys upfront that our dances cost $30.

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    I think it's fine as long as the dancer tells the custie "she" charges x amount before the dances. The prices at my club are set and most of the clientel have been coming in for years so they know the prices, but if I can sell my dances for $5-$10 more I do.
    Of course I use the whole "my dances are more because I am worth it" some guys go for it some don't but I don't feel I am being rude to the other dancers, and I would never pretend the higher rate was the norm.
    I have never had a custie get angry and as far as I know noone has complained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cinammonkisses
    I dont' think they assume they are high and mighty. I think they KNOW their true worth. Quit being a hater If you had the option of selling a normally priced VIP/Champagne room for $300 when everyone else is charging $200, you'd be feeling pretty dam good about yourself..right? So then what is wrong with their girls who are using their hustling skills/techniques to perfect their craft.

    Which is worse...a girl charging $10 on a $20 dance, or the girl who ups her price to $30?? Me personally, the girl undercutting the prices is the one hurting the business.
    I wasn't exagerrating AT ALL when I said that. Guys have complained to me about the girls being stuck up & one of them literally snarled at me when we were introduced. Trust me, I'm not hating at all, they are beautiful women, with attitudes.

    I've had numerous guys tell me that they felt ripped off because of it. So that's fine if they don't want repeat business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exotisch23
    there are certain girls in the industry who think they are all high & mighty and therefore can charge a guy extra or sometimes double the price of the original lap dance price (for example $300 for 30 min. when the normal price is $200; $30 for a lap dance when the price is $20).

    So how do you all feel about this?
    Personally I think it is wrong because the guy may feel like he was ripped off when he gets a dance from a different girl who charges the standard price (for that club). This happens quite often at my club because I hear the complaints all the time. Should I try to do anything about it?
    How do I feel about it? I don't see any problem with charging more as long as you're upfront about it. I would charge double or triple per dance sometimes, not necessarily because I felt I was worth so much more, but more as a deterrent to an unsavory customer. Rather than tell the dickwad a flatout no, I would charge more depending on his level of assholiness. I'll be damned, they would still pay it.

    I'm trying to understand why you would want to "do something" about it. Personally, I'd be more concerned about the trashy bitch letting guys finger her in the booth next door or the girls who charge less. Those are the real problems. And I don't see why the guys are complaining to you instead of the managers. I guess if you really feel that passionately about it then go ahead and "tell" but I still don't understand why you're upset about it.

    Like Susan Wayward mentioned, overcounting dances is the real ripoff here. Not being upfront about charging more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exotisch23
    I wasn't exagerrating AT ALL when I said that. Guys have complained to me about the girls being stuck up & one of them literally snarled at me when we were introduced. Trust me, I'm not hating at all, they are beautiful women, with attitudes.
    Exotisch which club by chance? Hopefully it's not Scores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by threlayer
    This is what the professional call girls do, charge more for being "more attractive" or somehow "hotter". It's a supply/demand thing. If you can market it well, someone will buy it -- sort of like the PTBarnum quote, but more fun.
    But IMO, dancers should NOT change the rules of the club. The club is supposed to set the rates according to its business plan, but the dancer can ask for a tip for a "better" dance. I don't like it when they do that and don't deliver any "better" quality dance, but they do it all the same. I just don't ask for any more. To me, it's like a doctor asking for more money so they can deliver better health care to YOU.

    However, there has never been a doctor who offered to perform for me a blow job.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

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    So your idea of a better dance is a blow job? That's not a dance or maybe you didn't know. Maybe you don't really care. If that's what you really wanted why are you imposing that standard on dancers endangering their health and jobs when you could have a prostitute who will do it cheerily and safely?

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    I've recently started charging $100/4 songs (i.e. $25 a song when the normal is $20) if customers want to go back and dance in the private booths at my club. I will stay and chat a little while with a customer who is paying this rate. This is what I've done to sort of manufacture my own 'champagne room' in a club that doesn't have one. My customers come back and buy more dances, so I assume they don't feel ripped off.

    Technically, I guess I'm overcharging, since most girls will dance back in the private booths for the standard $20/song. Then again, some girls will also grind guys to orgasm back there for $20/song. So maybe I'm also overcharging when I get $20/song for a standard medium-contact dance, since I'm not including a rub-off? If a girl at your club talked a customer into paying her $250 an hour to sit and talk, when you do that for free, would you be mad at her for overcharging? I wouldn't. I'd be trying to figure out a way I could do the same thing.

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    How do I feel about it? I don't see any problem with charging more as long as you're upfront about it. I would charge double or triple per dance sometimes, not necessarily because I felt I was worth so much more, but more as a deterrent to an unsavory customer. Rather than tell the dickwad a flatout no, I would charge more depending on his level of assholiness. I'll be damned, they would still pay it.
    I also do this. My club has a set price for dances which I follow unless the situation above is taking place. I will charge $100 per half hour though. But, my club doesn't have a VIP or other rooms. Why limit yourself? It's like the girl going around asking, "You want a $1 dance?" She's limiting herself. Go narc on the skankie finger bangin girl. Not one that's making more money for herself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist
    So your idea of a better dance is a blow job? That's not a dance or maybe you didn't know. Maybe you don't really care. If that's what you really wanted why are you imposing that standard on dancers endangering their health and jobs when you could have a prostitute who will do it cheerily and safely?
    If your comment was about my posting, here's my answer -- No, I didnt say that. I was talking about that phantom "better dance." The rest was just a joke; sometimes I add those just for fun, not to confuse people.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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