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    Money at my club has been somewhat absent these days, but slowly making a comeback since our competitors have closed down, and their customers are coming to us gradually.
    With that, a lot of their dancers have come to our club to work, and I notice one of them in particular doing really well when the rest of us have been struggling to get a few dances each night.
    I worked there (@ the place that closed down) for a few weeks last year, but didn't notice much difference in the other club's hustle energy than ours. So this only leaves me to think that this particular girl is either more experienced at hustling, or she is doing it a completely different way.
    Now, this one girl (I'll call her "Maria") is continually doing dances, and her stage show lacks energy (both physical and sexual) and the songs she plays are unrecognizable and boring. So I knew she wasn't getting dances because of her stage show. She's thin and blonde, pretty, but not gorgeous. Her voice is very monotone and her style of dress is gothic - not at all mainstream. I couldn't figure out why she is banking.
    After talking to a few of my regulars, I learned that Maria is ABSOLUTELY RELENTLESS when trying to sell a dance. One of them told me she gets angry and near-belligerent when she's rejected. A few dancers at my club also say they have overheard her talking and have watched Maria's style of approach and they report that she just doesn't take "no" for an answer and will approach a customer 3 or 4 times in a few hours.
    I, personally take a more realistic "get to know you" approach (unless we are really busy), and I think I would have a hard time being that annoying and socially ambitious when it comes to my sales technique, but then I see Maria doing it and walking away with more money than most of us.
    Would it be right of me to try and fake it? Should I try to be more aggressive or stick with what is comfortable?
    Do you know girls like this? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM?
    I'm curious to know your opinions and hear about experiences on this topic.

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    I know someone like that. Personally I would never do it. I guess for me it comes down to treating people the way I like to be treated and dare I say having some self respect. I don't belive in temper tantrums or harrasment in order to make a living - I am amazed that it works for some people actually. However I don't think the person I know gets any regulars or repeat customers out of it, so I think it has it's downfalls also... I think there's probably room to be a little more agressive but doing so in a way that doesn't cross that fine line where the customer feels really uncomfortable or you end up looking like a fruitcake would be preferable.

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    I cant do it but I see girls like that all the time. I think that aggressive thing might work out to a girl's advantage if she worked in a club that catered mostly to tourists but if you work in a club where there are a lot of regulars I think that her money will dry up pretty soon. Unfortunately, those same regulars might stop coming in at all if they think they're going to have to deal with her, then everyone's money will go down.

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    I know of a few dancers that do this but I don't see how you can have fun at work doing this... or make a lot of money for that matter. Sometimes, no matter how hard you try, the guy just doesn't have the money or if he doesn't want dances from you he will not get any from you no matter how hard you try or how peresistent you are.

    If you are mean and persistent to the wrong guy, you both might end up getting into an argument or a fight and then you have to go back to work all pissed. I was dancing for a group of guys when one of these girls came up and said that he'd better get a lap dance from her, "or else". He said, "No", and she then replid, "No he HAD to." He asked, "Why," and she said, "Because I said so." They were both getting pretty pissed off and he ended up almost yelling at her and pushing her away. I would think it's stupid to still try and get him to buy a dance after that. If I were a customer I would be pretty pissed if there were a lot of dancers with that kind of hustling strategy.

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    You said that she is gothic; maybe with her image and her temperament, this theme may very well work well for her, and some guys (although they may not admit it) probably find it a turn-on. Not all dancers who are moody will bank, but maybe she is also a very confident chick too. I too have know pushy girls like this.

    I think with this type of attitude, it'd work at first but it would be hard to make regulars. I personally am not a fan of it. I believe in assertion, not aggression.
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    I think it's disgusting for a woman to bully someone into getting a dance. How pathetic can you get?? I see girls all the time and they do make money but they usually make it all on the floor. No one wants to go in the vip with them. Whatever works but I'drather make that same 500$ in an hour than doing 25- 30 lapdances. I think i have a chip on my shoulder because last night I had to really work to break this customer down... he really liked me but was sooo turned off by girls with this attitude that he bitched about it for 20 min before taking me to the VIP room.When we got there one of the girls who was rude to him was in there arguing with a customer saying he owed her more $$$, manegement got involved and it was quite a scene. I couldn't help but think that if he were in a better mood, his wallet might have opened even more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiepunkshocker
    I know someone like that. Personally I would never do it. I guess for me it comes down to treating people the way I like to be treated and dare I say having some self respect.
    Exactly, it's bad enough that I am a terrible liar (and stretching the truth is part of the fantasy,) I can't add belligerance to my personality. Insisting never works for me anyway so I stick the sweet and sassy and it works just fine. Plus, most of those girls don't have repeat customers and I live off of my repeats!
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    While the "buy a dance from me or else" technique will work under some occasions, understand that ultimately it will turn guys off way more than make them interested. While she may be pressuring some guys into buying dances from her, they ultimately will not want to repeat-buy from her because it's not fun anymore. Guys are there to have a good time and while it's in a dancer's best interest to be more sales-worthy in how she works, pressuring a customer, regardless of the industry, is never a good idea.

    Imagine that this customer has never been in the club before. He sits down, orders a drink, and is now suddenly being angrily forced into buying a dance from this woman. While he may have bought 1 or 2, he probably will finish his drink and leave with the notion that all the dancers in there are like that and never return. Then he goes and tells his few other friends to never go to that club because it's a "high pressure joint". So now who is winning here? The club loses a potential repeat customer, loses potential new customers, and all the other dancers cannot make money off of him because he is closed minded to the experience in this club now. It's a bad maneuver any way you look at it.

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    Well, this girl at my club has big boobs, petite-cute body, messy dirty shoulder length hair, full of tattoos, messed up teeth, and her approach is (while rubbing her boobs and bending over) "I want to rub my pu$$y on your cock" and literally tries to drag them into the lap dance area. When they say no, immediately goes to the next customer w/ the same line. I could never do this of course and many guys think she's gross, crude and whatever else but I tell you what she averages like 800 a nite...usually 1000 on weekends, and i know because i see the dance sheet and she's always like 40-55 dances and we talk and she tells me. I don't "hate" on her for it. Apparently there's a market for the dirty porn star act out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lola025
    Well, this girl at my club has big boobs, petite-cute body, messy dirty shoulder length hair, full of tattoos, messed up teeth, and her approach is (while rubbing her boobs and bending over) "I want to rub my pu$$y on your cock" and literally tries to drag them into the lap dance area. When they say no, immediately goes to the next customer w/ the same line. I could never do this of course and many guys think she's gross, crude and whatever else but I tell you what she averages like 800 a nite...usually 1000 on weekends, and i know because i see the dance sheet and she's always like 40-55 dances and we talk and she tells me. I don't "hate" on her for it. Apparently there's a market for the dirty porn star act out there.
    that sounds like a modified "wanna dance?" approach

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    I worked with a girl who would actually hit people who wouldn't buy a dance from her. She ended up getting fired for screaming at a bouncer and customers to f*ck off one night. What a pain in the ass. And we have this BIG fat girl who straddles guys at their table and jumps up and down on them, with this godawful fake giggling like a drunk cheerleader. "Wanna see my boobies, teeheehee?" Ugh.
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    i'm a good hussler, but i have conversation first. i don't do the "wanna dance" thing and i DEFINATELY do not beg customers or hassle them if i'm rejected. i've known a few dancers like that, but the customers always seem to hate them, and they never make any money. that's at -my- club though, i think it depends on the environment. that fast paced aggressive hussle works at some places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lola025
    Apparently there's a market for the dirty porn star act out there.
    There are always going to be some dancers that this approach will work for. Granted, she may be making good money, but at what price? Personally, I'd rather make $500 in a shift while having a good time, relaxing, enjoying the company of some guys, and make some money instead of making $1000 a shift and being bitchy, bossy, obnoxious, and strung out. My best is, your home life is a lot more stable and happy than hers is. That's something money can't buy.

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    the extremes some people will go to is ridiculous... i mean its such a complete turn off for a guy to be high pressured by someone, and especially if they are not classy in their approach.....

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    I seem to be one of the few where I work with a real home, an employed spouse who doesn't take my money and beat the hell out of me in thanks when I get home at night, no drug/alcohol habit to feed, and who believes we would have a lot less drama in the world if we didn't hump the help. I might go home with $20 in my pocket, but I fall asleep as soon as my head hits the pillow at night, and ten yrs from now, I can tell my kids I was a dancer without being ashamed of the things I did.
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    Yeah, I think I would have a hard time with being so obnoxious. I am a very laid-back person with a more sultry and witty hustle style. I tend to win guys over with my jokes and intelligence rather than playing the bimbo routine (although that has worked sometimes too). A lot of people think I'm stoned or even on heroin, even though I never am. LOL
    Then I see someone who is the total opposite of me and I started to fear that maybe I was TOO laid back and not aggressive enough.
    And if you see someone who is doing well, you want to borrow a bit of what they are doing for yourself, I think.
    Maybe I should just find a happy medium and be slightly more aggressive and see if that works. In the past, I have been known to only talk to 3 or 4 guys a NIGHT and still do okay. Then there are other times when I have to hit up everyone in the place at least twice.

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    Yeah, yeah, those chicks are annoying and to me that kind of hustle would be so draining, it wouldn't even be worth it. That said, an aggressive approach can work well for some dancers, with some customers. I am usually the sweet, conversational stripper, too, but I'm starting to realize that the occasional customer really WANTS to be pressured. Like it's not "their fault" or whatever, if you "made" them do it. Whatever helps them sleep at night. So even if it's not something you want to make a habit of, it's useful to know how to hustle that way.

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    I never know what to do to get dances. I am a good dancer but a terrible stripper. I have a lot of difficulty asking for dances. I usually bring in $50-$100 a night and I cant get regulars. I have tried the conversation tactic and the straight up "hey hun would you like a dance *bat eyelashes*" Nothing seems to work. I will get an occasional dance here and there but not a whole lot. I am not sure what to do about it. I watch girls in my club make 400-500+ a night. I am "alternative" I have piercings and I used to have a shaved head but now I have cute short red hair. I would like to make more money. Any suggestions?

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    I agree with what someone said: because of her goth look the bossy aggressive attitude might work for her, but I doubt it will work for long if she is too mean.

    I think being a bit aggressive is good though. For awhile, I don't think I was aggressive enough. If they said no, I'd take off right away. Now, I am a bit more pushy: not to the point of being annoying, but sometimes guys do have to be pushed into it a bit.

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    I'm pushy. My stage show sucks. I make a lot of money and have a riot doing it. I don't know why other dancers come down on girls like me for "not having long conversations" or treating customers with what they call "respect." I don't care what customers do when they leave the club. I don't care about their divorce or lonliness. When they're with me, they have a good time. That's all I offer, the GFE. And I lay down a hard hustle to sell it. I don't take "no" for answer. I'm not an easy gal to say "no" to either. What guy wants a wimp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeyJones
    I'm pushy. My stage show sucks. I make a lot of money and have a riot doing it. I don't know why other dancers come down on girls like me for "not having long conversations" or treating customers with what they call "respect." I don't care what customers do when they leave the club. I don't care about their divorce or lonliness. When they're with me, they have a good time. That's all I offer, the GFE. And I lay down a hard hustle to sell it. I don't take "no" for answer. I'm not an easy gal to say "no" to either. What guy wants a wimp?
    You don't care about their loneliness and don't treat them with respect... yeah, that's a 'girlfriend experience' alright -- just not the kind of girlfriend experience one would want to actually have...and you lay down a hard hustle to sell guys on the idea of being disrespected by you... Im sure your repeat business is booming, you must make the club a really fun place to be

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    I would not only tell the dancer to get lost, I would leave the club. If the club wants classy customers, they need to have classy dancers. You said money is slow -- if I were I dancer in that club I would be worried that this kind of tactic is drying up the well.

    I go to a club for fun, not to get mugged.

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    I do whatever it takes to get that money because if I DON'T SOMEONE ELSE WILL. I am a a great hustler and I take pride in it. The magic of words and your eyes. You have to be ablt to read people. It takes years of work to be as good as hustler as I am. It's all about your attitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dlabtot
    You don't care about their loneliness and don't treat them with respect... yeah, that's a 'girlfriend experience' alright -- just not the kind of girlfriend experience one would want to actually have...and you lay down a hard hustle to sell guys on the idea of being disrespected by you... Im sure your repeat business is booming, you must make the club a really fun place to be
    I think that what she's trying to say is that by not getting mired down in customers' personal lives, and by not letting people d*ck around with her time, she's being perceived as not being respectful, not that she actually doesn't respect her customers.

    It sounds as if she's upbeat and positive...with the "gfe" referring to the dance itself.

    This whole business with dancers and customers exchanging sob stories pre-dance is not a necessary bonding ritual. If a customer wants to unload on me about his divorce, he's welcome to do so for the price of a song. But if they're in my club, I can only assume that they came to have a good time, and not sit with a tear in their beer.

    Frankly, I care about them being lonely about as much as they truly care about me being lonely.

    But back the original topic, an aggressive skag can and will make money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexxaHex
    I think I would have a hard time being that annoying.
    If she wa$n't doing good, would you still think she was that annoying?

    Maybe you are the only one who finds her obnoxious. I wouldn't rely on customer's comments on other dancers.

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