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    Default How to be conniving.

    Sometimes when I'm at work, I get the urge to be conniving and deceitful and downright evil. I get the urge to do things like purposely get a guy really drunk and tell him for $50-$100 I'll take my thong off on stage (which is $25). Or move in smoothly on a guy and make him think he's the one I'll love forever but OH POOR ME I can't stay in this country unless I have more money for my visa... why of course I'll stick around you if you give it to me!

    Sometimes I just want to reach into their pocket and steal all their cash.

    Do you ever get these urges? What do you do about them? And...

    What is the most conniving thing you've ever done to get what amount of money?

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    Our club did 15 min and 30 min champagne rooms.

    I took a really drunk guy back there and he had cash and wanted to do a 30 min.

    After 15, he asked if we were done yet and I said yes. Then he paid me for another 30 mins.

    We did this a few times. I felt kinda bad, but not really.

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    I did it a few times, but it backfired once because the guy wasn't paying, his boss was. I got the guy drunk until he wasn't keeping tabs, but his boss was...and he only paid me for about the right amount of dances, but I felt bad, so I didn't do it again.

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    Default Re: How to be conniving.

    a friend and I took a guy to a 3 for 100 room and told him before we went to it that it would be 100 for both of us, then had him pay us 100 each before we started dancing, then after 3 songs charged him another 100 each.

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    one guy who was drunk and being a total asshole asked me "how many songs do we have left?" and i told him "this is the last one". he had paid for five and we were on our third. he never noticed and i didn't feel the least bit bad about it.

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    Once a guy gave me a $100 bill for a $20 lap dance without realizing it. I felt a little guilty but didn't say anything

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    oh! just the other day a guy who comes in fairly often tipped me a 100.00 on stage. when i got off i asked him if he meant to do it, because i figured it was a mistake. it was. he wound up tipping me very well anyway. i wouldn't have felt right taking that much by accident. esp. since he's alright. if he had been a complete jerk though, it might have been different.

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    My club has a standard schedule of dance special that going on during the week. They are so well known, and so many of our customers are regulars, that the DJ barely bothers to announce them anymore. So occasionally a customer will come in, buy dances, and pay me $20 per song, even if, with the special on, they would have been ten. If the guy has been super nice, I tell him and give him back his money. If he's been a pain, I figure I earned the extra $10 a song, and I keep it.

    This is the sneakiest thing I've done. But, like Lilith, sometimes I just want to be evil. Especially if a customer is giving me a hard time. Part of me wants to get away from him as fast as possible, screw the money. Part of me says, OK, this is war! How much of your money can I take away from you?

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    If a guy throws a $100 on my stage, I always just assume that they mean to . I wouldn't ever think that it is a mistake. I mean, that's $100!!

    I did take advantage of a drunk guy once. He got $200 of funny money, and the waitress handed it all to me, so I grabbed him and said let's go do some dances. He passed out in the Champange room, so I sat there in front of him until his 8 dances ran out. Then the bouncer helped him out of the club and into a cab with his friend.

    The Karma caught me the next day. I was driving on a snowy mountian pass and a hunk of ice the size of a volleyball fell off a semi truck and rolled right under my car taking out my oil pan. . Cost me $500 to get the thing fixed. This was right before Christmas, too. Had to increase the limit of my credit card just to get through the holidays.

    I just managed to get it all paid off TODAY!!

    Last time I do something like that.

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    Default Re: How to be conniving.

    Hehehe i really am paying for my visa lol

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    I figure as long as they know what they're doing, it's not my fault. I'm a conniving bitch sometimes, but hey, I'm all warm and cuddley about it and I don't lie... much.

    Once a young kid took me into the champagne room. He was drunk drunk drunk and celebrating a new job. I felt kind of bad, cause it sounded like he had had a good job interview, but didn't actually have the job yet. He had like his entire life savings from delivering pizza in the bank, and he bought a couple bottles of champagne and several champagne rooms. At some point, he's like, "oh, this'll hafta be our last room cause the rest of my money is for rent." I smiled and told him how I would neeever take his rent money until he insisted that it was nothing. Then, in all his drunken glory, I got him to sing "I been working on the railroad..." (that was his supposed new job) really loud.

    But that wasn't all that conniving, cause he knew what was up.



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    I feel so bad...

    Ummm about 2 months ago I was sitting and chatting with this guy. He kept hinting that hey "may" want to go into VIP with me but he was holding out. We went and got dances instead. He bought about $200 in funny money, and our dances are $20/dance. I saw the funny money hanging out of his slack pockets and so I pushed it back deep into the couches. I swear I did about 5 dances for him, before I told him we were done.

    He was like "oh wow, you must be some hell of a dancer, I was in my own fantasy with you"

    My manager saw me talking with him and told me to be careful because he was a complete weirdo. Hell they were even surprised that he bought dances in the first place. So that Karma didn't kick in to bad, I went back and conversated with him for a little while longer. I guess I let him pay for my conversation.







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    This makes me think of something my roomie says before I go dance everytime. "Wishing you many men's Paychecks"

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    Default Re: How to be conniving.

    hehe thats a good one but hey if there willing to give it to you why not..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris
    If a guy throws a $100 on my stage, I always just assume that they mean to . I wouldn't ever think that it is a mistake. I mean, that's $100!!
    Hell yea! I'd just think he was really feeling my stage show. Then I'd probably harass him about taking me into VIP/Champagne room lol







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    no, not deceiptful....in fact, I've told drunk guys when they have already paid me and told a young college guy to go home when he was going to go to the ATM to get more money. He said he was paying back his college loans so I didn't want him to spend too much at the club as he was a newbie.


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    uuh, no I don't think conniving is a good thing to be, as a dancer. We fight enough negative stereotypes as it is - why reinforce them? I think being deceptive and lying is unprofessional.. not to mention it's a great way to welcome negative karma.

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    I agree with tampadancer but i also think that sometimes we get so fed up with assholes that we feel like we deserve the little extra we get when they make a mistake. I once did a $40 dance fora guy who the whole time was trying to grab me and lick me. He kept asking me how much i charged for sex no matter how many times i told him i wasnt a prostitute. He gave me 2 $100s instead of 2 $20s. Heck yeah i kept em. I felt like that was a deserved tip for being treated like crap during the dance.

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    The way I see it is: the way alot of these guys act and exist, I wouldn't feel one bit bad about conniving them. Although I do have lines, I wouldn't just reach in their pocket and steal their wallets. If they are trying to push your lines and connive you and disrespect you, to me it is fair play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by siena_b
    I agree with tampadancer but i also think that sometimes we get so fed up with assholes that we feel like we deserve the little extra we get when they make a mistake. I once did a $40 dance fora guy who the whole time was trying to grab me and lick me. He kept asking me how much i charged for sex no matter how many times i told him i wasnt a prostitute. He gave me 2 $100s instead of 2 $20s. Heck yeah i kept em. I felt like that was a deserved tip for being treated like crap during the dance.

    Ive had jerks do this, and I have no probs ripping them off. Although I usually tell them "I SAID no touching - its another $50 or I walk off right now" and once Ive been tipped I dance until the end of the 1st song (we have 2 song 10 min dances) or for another 30 seconds - whichever is first- and then walk out.

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    A girl I work with told me yesterday that she stole money out of a guy's pocket while in the VIP room. That's so shady to me. That guy will realize that his money was stolen (it was in an envelope) and he won't come back to our club.

    On the other hand, overcharging or cutting dances short when a guy is too drunk or stupid to realize it, is his problem. Caveat emptor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by siena_b
    I agree with tampadancer but i also think that sometimes we get so fed up with assholes that we feel like we deserve the little extra we get when they make a mistake.
    Siena, I completely understand. When you spend the whole dance protecting yourself and dodging tongues and unwelcome hands, you deserve more $$ for that dance. It's a lot more work to do a dance for an octopus than a gentleman.

    If I'm having trouble with an ass, I'll tell him dance prices double if he doesn't behave. If he doesn't shape up, I charge double. End of story... but I'm not sneaky about it.

    Again, I completely understand what you are saying though

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    If one wants to take advantage of an idiot who can't tell what he's tipping because he got hammered and was groping everything in sight, hey more power to you. That's his problem, not yours.

    What becomes a problem is when some gals don't know when to turn their conniving side off and begin to feel that any customer, regardless of their demeanor, is fair game for a good screwing over, sometimes in retaliation for other people screwing them over in the past.

    As I've stated before, this business has a propensity to pick on the weak who will go along with its abuses, not neccesarily those that deserve to get what's coming to them. This is one reason a lot of gentlemen have abandoned the clubs and dancers often find themselves with nothing but assholes to contend with. Its also why a lot of good dancers have gotten out of the business, and we custies are often left with girls who are lazy, drug addled, or ROB's.
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    Well, I must suffer from a misplaced sense of honor. When I realized awhile ago that I had forgotten to pay a dancer (and she had forgoten to ask), I drove back to the club to pay her.

    I guess that would make me a fool in some circles.
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    I don't think that makes you a fool, I think that makes you an honest person. I believe that Karma works in mysterious ways and I think that'll come back to you in a positive way for doing the right thing, plus doesn't it make you feel better about yourself knowing you did the right thing? Who knows, she may be a single mom with 3 kids to feed, maybe a kid with an incurable disease and needs medicine for that child, etc. You just never know.......

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