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    ...by members of the Duke University Lacrosse Team.

    I know it has been said before, but you have to be careful if you do private parties. It doesn't say, but apparently she didn't have anyone with her. The story conflicts itself - first singular, then plural, though it suggests she was by herself.

    http://www.14wfie.com/Global/story.a...86020&nav=3w6o

    Members of the Duke University lacrosse team are being investigated as part of a suspected rape and beating case.

    About 150 protesters gathered outside a university-owned home, where a woman was allegedly raped and almost strangled.

    The victim is an exotic dancer. Some members of the team reportedly hired her for a party on March 13th.

    Police have taken DNA samples from 46 members of the lacrosse team, but no charges have been filed.

    Duke Athletic Director Joe Alleva announced the lacrosse team would forfeit their next two games.

    Members of the team deny the rape allegations, but do admit to having the party and hiring exotic dancers.

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    Little shits...

    Infuriating because, I'm sure we all know how this one will turn out. It will be kicked under the rug.

    Be safe and smart, ladies

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    A much more detailed account. Private dancers - please, please, please be careful out there. I know we have a wiser bunch on board, but if your gut tells you something is wrong, get the hell out. This is terrifying.

    I'm just so frustrated that she waited to report the rape. I know it's common when women are raped to wait for X amount of time (if they even go forward), but her waiting combined with her profession and the nature of the accusation, people are going to scrutinize her claims even more.

    http://www.newsobserver.com/102/story/421799.html
    Dancer gives details of ordeal

    A woman hired to dance for the Duke lacrosse team describes a night of racial slurs, growing fear and, finally, sexual violence
    Samiha Khanna and Anne Blythe, Staff Writers

    The woman who says she was raped last week by three members of the Duke University lacrosse team thought she would be dancing for five men at a bachelor party, she said Friday. But when she arrived that night, she found herself surrounded by more than 40.Just moments after she and another exotic dancer started to perform, she said, men in the house started barking racial slurs. The two women, both black, stopped dancing.

    "We started to cry," she said. "We were so scared."

    Forty-six members of the men's lacrosse team submitted DNA samples Thursday in the unusual case. As of late Friday, there had been no arrests. Duke officials briefed university staff Friday on the allegations, and authorities vowed to crack the team's wall of solidarity.

    "We're asking someone from the lacrosse team to step forward," Durham police Cpl. David Addison said. "We will be relentless in finding out who committed this crime."

    He emphasized the seriousness of the accusations -- first-degree rape, kidnapping, assault by strangulation and robbery.


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    This was the first time she [the dancer] had been hired to dance provocatively for a group, she said. There was no security to protect her, and as the men became aggressive, the two women started to leave. After some of the men apologized for the behavior, the women went back inside, according to police. That's when the woman was pulled into a bathroom and raped and sodomized, police said.

    She hesitated to tell police what happened, she said Friday. She realized she had to, for her young daughter and her father.

    *SNIP* was on his porch next door during the party, saw the victim that night. He said Friday that he wishes he had called police at the first sign something was wrong.

    He saw at least 30 men go into the white three-bedroom house, which Duke officials say is rented by three lacrosse team captains.

    Bissey saw two women arrive and, after they were in the house 20 minutes, come out. As they got into a car, men shouted, Bissey said.

    "Some of them were saying things like, 'I want my money back,' " Bissey said.

    He recalled the racially charged statements at least one man was yelling at the victim.

    "When I was outside, one guy yelled at her, '... Thank your grandpa for my cotton shirt,' " Bissey said.

    After a few minutes, everything seemed to calm down, he said. One of the women headed back into the house, saying she forgot her shoes.

    Days later, Bissey learned one of the young women reported being raped.

    "If I had called in the beginning, maybe the cops would have gotten there before this happened," he said.

    *SNIP*Art Chase, Duke sports information director, said lacrosse coach Mike Pressler and athletics department administrators had spoken with team captains about the incident. The department was not conducting an investigation of its own, Chase said.

    "I think they'll let the judicial system run its course," he said.

    Chase said he was not sure of the occasion for the party. Players did not return phone calls, and their parents remained mum, as did Pressler. He and the team were preparing Friday for today's home game against Georgetown University.

    Paul Haagen, chairman of Duke's Academic Council, was in a faculty meeting about the incident.

    *SNIP*Haagen, a law professor who specializes in sports law, said studies show that violence against women is more prevalent among male athletes than among male students in general -- and higher still among such "helmet sports" as football, hockey and lacrosse.

    "These are sports of violence," he said. "This is clearly a concern."

    Tampa, I don't think this one will be kicked under the rug. There have been vigils, protests, and people are PISSED. I'm (pleasantly) surprised, actually. I heard about this first on a politics board I frequent and there has been absolutely no condemnation of the stripper - yet, anyway. Even still, I'm sure some ignoramuses will start blaming her for a variety of reasons, provided the allegations are proven.


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    I hope you're right - it just concerns me because of the stigmas that are going to be automatically attached to her for being a "stripper." Had this happened to a woman who was not a dancer - who was just hanging out with the lacrosse team, this would make national news for sure.

    I hope justice is served. Shit like this is unbelievable and completely unexcusable. The mentality of groups of men can potentially be very bad, towards women. This is, of course, not to say all men are evil - but with situations like this, a "gang mentality" can quickly develop. One man suggests raping the women, then another says "good idea," then, despite not wanting to participate and knowing their actions are wrong, the other men join in because they do not want to be ostracized from the group. I watched "north country" the other night, with Charlize Theron, and this story just reminded me of the situation that this movie was based on. It takes a group of cowards for something like this to happen.

    <sigh> I hope the women are alright
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    http://www.newsobserver.com/102/story/421799.html

    (The accuser had worked for an escort company for two months, doing one-on-one dates about three times a week.)

    I hope they get the DNA evidence, without it I think it will be hard to get a conviction.
    If it goes to court they are totally going to use the stripper/escort thing against her.

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    This is why you ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS travel with a fucking bouncer or several bouncers! It may cost you money to pay for your own security, but at least then you're safe

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    Oooh they get to forfeit their next two games.. well big whoop te do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blade
    This is why you ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS travel with a fucking bouncer or several bouncers! It may cost you money to pay for your own security, but at least then you're safe
    Or better yet, stick to working in the clubs. Avoid putting yourself into a potentialy VERY dangerous situation in the first place.

    I saw a teaser about this news story last night. That poor girl . I hope justice is served but I am not holding my breath because even though it is unfair & wrong her escort job is going to make it extreemly difficult to prove her case.

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    I am so sorry to hear that.

    Private parties can obviously be bad.

    I am a male dancer, and that can be unsafe. People always know my whereabouts.

    I hope justice comes forward and violaters held strictly responsible.

    Ladies always watch your back. Bring a partner for protection when you are out.

    Brock

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    This is the reason I refuse to do private parties... the money is not worth even a small chance of being raped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blade
    This is why you ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS travel with a fucking bouncer or several bouncers! It may cost you money to pay for your own security, but at least then you're safe
    I thought the same thing.. Hell, no did either of them deserve this treatment!!!! But, I trust men (yes, men) so little that I would never put myself in that situation without bouncers, big bouncers. Those poor women probably trusted these guys and to have this happen is just sad.
    These guys need to be punished, especially when it is a bunch ganing up on one person male or female. It's sick and I don't think missing a game or two is punishment enough for a lifetime of mental damage.
    Please don't lick me, it tickles..



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    I have to agree with Blade. Rule #1 is you always go with backup. That will be the first thing that will come up, cause most if not all agencies send a bouncer or driver. Otherwise, they are going to be viewed as escorts that got more then they wanted, it's truly sad. But i dont know, i am looking at this from another angle also. First these are alleged charges, so until CSI comes back with a Dna match. But there are some things here that strike me as fishy with this case.

    If this event did occur, i hope they roast the guys who did it. But for some reason I am wondering if race had a factor here??? Were all these frat boys white??? They ordered 2 black girls from an escort agency?? Then they show up, the boys are pissed cause they didnt get what they wanted and refused to pay? Then, make up a story to get paid?? bunch of rich Duke frat boys??? Hmmm.. this isnt adding up. I am waiting to see what the physical evdience supports, especially if there was sodomy involved (dna would be all over the place) But like I said if this is real then these guys should do serious time for it. I am skeptical though, there are women out there that will claim to be raped for other motives ( to get back at an ex..etc)

    I dont get how a whole party of guys could get violent and brutily rape someone and the cops dont have DNA matches??! They are even going as far as to ask someone from the team to step forward?? Which shows you the basis of the case (they dont have any evidence) Thats what is throwing me off, Rape is a crime of rage. Its not like these guys would be smart enough to "clean the scene", wear rubbers...etc.

    If anyone learns new details, post them, this is an intresting case.



    As far as the ladies, go with backup. Or stay in the clubs, but be safe. Please.



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    My heart breaks for them. I don't understand how their agency could send them ANYWHERE let alone a massive frat house without security. I agree that's why I can't be bothered with parties. No guy who's asked has ever passed my smell test. I think you're expecting too much too soon Cap't. There are thousands of cases of well to-do men committing violent and heinous crimes alone or in groups. I know it's painful to hear of the potential depravity but don't go into denial. Wait for everything to come out first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TarynJolie
    Or better yet, stick to working in the clubs. Avoid putting yourself into a potentialy VERY dangerous situation in the first place.

    I saw a teaser about this news story last night. That poor girl . I hope justice is served but I am not holding my breath because even though it is unfair & wrong her escort job is going to make it extreemly difficult to prove her case.
    I saw a conversation on Fox about this today and they were coming to the conclusion it was rape (though they opted for "we haven't seen the case in court yet!")

    So if even Fox is playing it like a rape - I don't think the case is gonna be that surprising.

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    I can't understand why she would go back into the house where men were saying such nasty racial slurs to her for some shoes . If I had heard those statements I would have been coming back for more than my shoes with a few dudes from my old hood. Poor girl she did not deserve to be hurt in anyway dancer, escort or street hooker. Shows how awful "high society" can be to us "poor descendents of cotton pickers" i guess.... But racism is not a factor in the industry less known everyday life. Don't get me wrong this has and can happen to any women or man but in this case it was 3 white boys raping one black women. I can not help but be hurt for her. it sounds like the movie The Accused with Jodie Foster... very sad.

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    Captain Rob: Rape is a crime of power, a man uses his penis as a weapon to gain (in his mind) complete control over the victim.

    That being said the cops took DNA samples from (i think it was) 47 boys, thats going to take awhile to go through and compare. I cannot imagine they would go through all of that if they did'nt have DNA from her body/clothes.

    Asking someone to come forward does'nt necissarily mean they don't have evidence. If they can get someone other than the victim to corroberate the story it makes the case easier to prosecute.

    As bad as this sounds I hope she was raped and did'nt make it up because if she wasn't and it comes out it will just be another reason for people to discredit any stripper/escort who comes foreward in the future.

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    More facts about the goings ons

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    Quote Originally Posted by TarynJolie
    Or better yet, stick to working in the clubs. Avoid putting yourself into a potentialy VERY dangerous situation in the first place.

    I saw a teaser about this news story last night. That poor girl . I hope justice is served but I am not holding my breath because even though it is unfair & wrong her escort job is going to make it extreemly difficult to prove her case.
    Yeah , dancers never get hurt or abused in the clubs.

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    The smoking gun feature document right now is the search warrent issued in this case. It sheds a little more light on the situation.

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    As was mentioned before, Rape is a crime of power, not passion.. also the individual that ( allegedly) commits such crimes has serious, serious issues with women to begin with. it's like a nasty infected sore, it's going to come to a head and burst sometime. That dancer just happened to perhaps be the catalyst that did so.

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    I live about 15 min. away from Duke and for something like this to happen so close to me really saddens me. And for it to be Duke out of all the colleges around here, is the real shocker. I had no idea she was doing a private show but thats besides the point. I'm pretty sure that whoever raped this lady will pay, and their life will be ruined as they deserve it. They'll get down to the bottom of this, they ride on their reputation. Be safe everybody

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOIFOOL
    I live about 15 min. away from Duke and for something like this to happen so close to me really saddens me. And for it to be Duke out of all the colleges around here, is the real shocker. I had no idea she was doing a private show but thats besides the point. I'm pretty sure that whoever raped this lady will pay, and their life will be ruined as they deserve it. They'll get down to the bottom of this, they ride on their reputation. Be safe everybody
    Unfortunately other people will pay for it too.

    The raving liberal men haters are putting up posters with ALL the team members labelled "Give yourself up!" That means 30 or so people are being labelled rapists when they are not.

    Add to that, all the white men had to give their DNA - nothing like proving yourself innocent rather than the authorities proving you guilty. Of course, when it comes to crimes against women - men are usually guilty until proven innocent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pan Dah
    30 or so people were present at the party and have apparently formed a "wall of silence" to not talk to police about what happened. In cases like this, an argument can be made that aiding and abetting is deserving of punishment too.
    In my college years partying I barely knew what was going on in the next room.

    When black people in the slums put up a wall of silence about a crime they have seen - should they be arrested?

    Oh, quit your damn whining. In public opinion. there's very little "innocent until proven guilty" for a lot of crimes. And if you analyze any actual statistics, I'm sure you'll find "when it comes to crimes against women - men are usually guilty" - period.

    Ah - the love fest of women victimhood.

    I am not sure what statistics have to do with the actual case of three or four rapist and tens of people who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Perhaps it is just to throw a fact in the air like "water is wet so there!"

    The whole scene kind of reminds me of dirty dancers who get the whole club busted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol
    In my college years partying I barely knew what was going on in the next room.

    When black people in the slums put up a wall of silence about a crime they have seen - should they be arrested?




    Ah - the love fest of women victimhood.

    I am not sure what statistics have to do with the actual case of three or four rapist and tens of people who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Perhaps it is just to throw a fact in the air like "water is wet so there!"

    The whole scene kind of reminds me of dirty dancers who get the whole club busted.

    WOW I thought u were different guess I was wrong.

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