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    Assault penalty called too soft
    Families outraged at legislator's son's deal


    The son of Arizona's Senate president confessed that he and another counselor shoved broomsticks and flashlights into the rectums of 18 boys in at least 40 incidents at a youth camp in June.

    Now Yavapai County prosecutors say they will drop all but one assault charge and likely recommend little or no jail time if 18-year-old Clifton Bennett agrees to plead guilty.

    A similar agreement has been offered to co-defendant Kyle Wheeler, 19, who faces an additional assault charge for choking three of the boys until they passed out.




    The plea agreements were first presented in court last week and could be completed at a hearing Monday.

    Prosecuting attorney James Landis explained the plea agreement in court, saying the "broomsticking" was a hazing ritual and a punishment, not sexual assault.

    But legal experts, sex-crimes prosecutors and victims'-rights lawyers say the acts clearly fit the definition of sexual assault.

    The pleas, which describe the assault charge as "a non-dangerous, non-repetitive offense," have outraged parents who say their sons were victims of violent sexual attacks. The boys, who were 11 to 14 years old at the time, have had trouble going to the bathroom, sleep with clothes on, are afraid at night, and have undergone sexual-assault counseling.

    The parents want Bennett and Wheeler to face sexual-assault charges, undergo psychosexual evaluations and spend several days in jail per victim.

    "Our biggest concern is that these kids are going to do it again," said the mother of an 11-year-old Tucson boy. "My son had something shoved up his butt seven or eight times. If that's not sexual assault, what is?"

    Landis said in court that the case was never viewed as "sexual in nature," in part because prosecutors could not prove Bennett and Wheeler had sexual intent. Parents of the victims said Landis told them privately that the incidents occurred while the boys had on clothes or swimsuits and that there was no evidence the defendants are homosexuals.

    "We would certainly start from a different perspective if it was girls (as victims)," he said in court.

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    Bennett and Wheeler were arrested in January and charged with 18 counts of aggravated assault and 18 counts of kidnapping because the victims were held down.

    Landis would not comment on the case and referred questions to Yavapai County Attorney Sheila Polk, who said she was ethically barred from discussing an active case.

    But experts who specialize in sex crimes say sexual intent is rarely a factor in charging sexual assault; and sexual orientation has nothing to do with it.

    "They could have been charged with sexual assault," said Sue Eazer, supervisor of the Pima County Attorney's Special Victims Unit. "Sexual assault is oftentimes not motivated by sexual desire."

    Eazer said she has prosecuted several sexual-assault cases involving objects being shoved into children's body cavities.

    "It makes no difference to me if it is a male or female (victim)," she said, adding that intent can be a factor in cases of child molestation, where a parent might be accused of touching an infant while changing a diaper.

    The Yavapai County case has national implications for the legal system, said Andrew Vachss, a lawyer specializing in child cases and a best-selling author who uses profits from his books to fund legal work for abused kids.

    "This is a theory of prosecution that is based on taking the word of the perpetrators," Vachss said in a phone interview from his New York office. "That's what you have juries for . . . Let the perps tell a jury, 'I inserted a foreign object into the rectums of little boys, but I had no sexual intent.' "

    Vachss, who was asked to comment on the case by The Arizona Republic, said most state laws on sexual assault require only insertion, not intent.

    Intent called 'red herring'

    He called the issue of intent a "red herring" meant to distract from the fact that a deal is being cut.

    "The bottom line is you don't have to prove sexual intent when you have such gross assault," he said. "It looks like one of the most sweetheart deals of all time."

    Vachss pointed to a sexual-assault case that was described as hazing in Mepham, Pa. Three football players used golf balls, pine cones and broomsticks to sodomize three other players during training camp last year. All of the defendants were charged with sexual assault.

    The 18 Arizona kids were among the state's top student leaders at a weeklong camp in Prescott to learn student government leadership skills.

    Public records show that Bennett and Walker were assigned to stay in a cabin with the boys. In the first hours of camp, Bennett and Wheeler announced that campers who broke rules would get a "brooming."



    They were punished for flatulence, making messes, not following rules and sometimes for no reason at all, records show. The camp ended in June, but police weren't notified until six months later, when one of the boys told a school official what happened.

    But parents say there were signs something bad happened. In a letter home to his mom, a 12-year-old boy described his experience:

    "I don't like our counselors when their (sic) talking about shoving broomsticks up our butts," the boy said.

    In court last week, Bennett apologized for his role. "The actions that occurred there, none of us considered the consequences that would follow," Bennett said. "The next time I saw these boys, I never expected to see them here."

    Bennett said he was "trying every way he can to rectify the situation."

    Parents of the victims described Bennett's remarks as self-serving.

    "My son was barely 13, and he was grossly abused," the mother of a Phoenix boy said.

    Bennett's father, Senate President Ken Bennett, R-Prescott, sat behind his son in court.A Prescott native and influential businessman, he has said little publicly about the case. After his son's arrest, he issued a brief statement expressing concern as a parent.

    Lawyers for Bennett declined to comment. But in a letter to the Yavapai County attorney, Bennett's lawyers said he immediately "took responsibility for his role, showed remorse and admitted that this 'hazing' was inappropriate."

    Mission in jeopardy

    They described Bennett as an honor student and active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, planning to go on a mission in September. "A felony conviction for assault will make his desire to complete his mission impossible," they wrote.

    Under the plea agreements Bennett and Wheeler could face a maximum two years in prison. But the court could reduce the charges to a misdemeanor and no jail time.

    Prosecutors have told parents that they are going to recommend Bennett and Wheeler get five days in jail on the one count, said Lynne Cadigan, a lawyer for two victims.

    "If you rape 18 women, would you only be charged with one count?" she said.

    Cadigan said allowing Bennett to go on a mission is preposterous. Both he and Wheeler need psychological counseling and should be in a place where their actions, particularly among children, can be observed, she said.

    "Could he be a perpetrator in the future?" she asked.

    Lawyer and author Vachss echoed that concern. He said the plea damages both victims and defendants.

    Vachss said the prosecutor appears to be saying to kids, "if you didn't like it, you shouldn't have put up with it." And he said it is telling the defendants you can get away with it.

    That has the potential to make victims angry and make perpetrators feel invulnerable, all of which could lead to future violence against children, he said.

    "Everybody involved in this is being treated wrong, from the victims to the perpetrators."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blade
    Under the plea agreements Bennett and Wheeler could face a maximum two years in prison. But the court could reduce the charges to a misdemeanor and no jail time.

    Prosecutors have told parents that they are going to recommend Bennett and Wheeler get five days in jail on the one count, said Lynne Cadigan, a lawyer for two victims.

    "If you rape 18 women, would you only be charged with one count?" she said.
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    This is awful... It seams no one ever cares for the victims... the suck it up attitude they have towards these young boys is scary.

    This news confirmed what I said before Blade....All of the different people of our society today have done things that are considered wrong... I just think a certain group gets treated better and gets off easy when they do. Am I wrong to feel this way?

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    The fact that they are basically getting off disgusts me.
    While I have never commited sexual assualt, I have commited or been charged with assualt several times in my years, everytime they wanted to throw the book at me.
    I can only imagine the anger and pain these kids and their parents are going thru

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    Disgusting. Ugh. Maybe they need someone to do the same to them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Blade
    Prosecuting attorney James Landis explained the plea agreement in court, saying the "broomsticking" was a hazing ritual and a punishment, not sexual assault.
    LOL, what a tool.

    I think Gynger's got the right idea here.

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    They were CHILDREN for god's sake!!! Not that it's better for adults, but children!!!! They need to have someone defend them, not their rapists!
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    Do you need to prove "sexual intent" in Arizona? Up here you need to intend to perform the act (i.e. you need to intend to shove the broomstick into the kid); you don't need to intend for it to be sexual. For it to be sexual assault it needs to interfere (alhtough this doesn't need to be intended) with the child's sexual integrity (which no sane person would say this doesn't, whereas helping a kid clean themselves during toilet training clearly doesn't). What a weird idea. Plus - what possible purpose could there be BESIDES interfering with their sexual integrity. I mean, this isn't a spanking. It isn't an intuitively normal punishment.
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    That's just disgusting. WTF is wrong with these people???

    I agree with Gynger; they need to be subjected to the SAME treatment for a few nights

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    If I was one of the parents there would be hell to pay,believe me.Those freaks are 18,lets see what charges they give me after I 'm done with them.

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    Well, I just read another story; not all 18 counts were of full, penetrative broomsticking. I don't mean that it is okay just to do it to one kid, but if only one kid is claiming that he was penetrated, then the case isn't really as strong. Like some of them were apparently just poked in the butt, while still clothed (?). Apparently 3 are claiming that there were choked until they passed out though - that seems like a pretty serious assault to me.
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    Well, if they go free all those young boys can gang together and show up one night unexpectedly and beat the living crap out of the defendents and shove broomsticks up thier asses.

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    Absolutely disgusting and wrong. I'm thinking this is not going to be the end of this....it's going to end in some type of tragedy.

    You can't have assault of 18 kids go basically unpunished without at least one of the parents going off the deep end and taking matters into his own hands.

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    Boys and men have no protection in this society.

    There is an aristocracy forming in this country.

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    Maybe they will subject their Daddies to this torture so maybe someone will see the light .... that white light at the end of the tunnel.
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    I remember some NYC cops that got busted, and jailed for doing something similar to a Latino prisoner. Some other cops got busted for interfering with that investigation; refused to admit they were witnesses.

    If the can do it to cops, they can bloody well do it to these spoiled BRATS.

    Even if anal isn't rape, it is severe assault/battery and sodomy, and if someone were to die, it would be manslaughter or worse. Further if a man did this to a woman, no question it would be rape. Sex offender - status 3 for these snot-nosed pipsqueeks.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

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    This is assault no matter what kind it was and what it was called.Sexual,physical,mental assault is all assault.
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    Yeah, I'd say shove a broomstick and a flashlight up their ass, and then ask them if they thought it was sexual assualt or not...

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    The plaintiffs' attorney should have argued assault,rather than label what type of assault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unbeleavable
    If I was one of the parents there would be hell to pay,believe me.Those freaks are 18,lets see what charges they give me after I 'm done with them.
    Took the words right out of my mouth!!!!!

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    Where is there a link for this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol
    Where is there a link for this?
    Here you go:
    http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...bennett02.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol
    Boys and men have no protection in this society.

    There is an aristocracy forming in this country.
    My thoughts exactly!!! What the hell is going on. I'm not from Arizona but who would I have to write about this travesty? I will sign a petition. First the Duke case, now this insanity.... Why don't legislators take this seriously? In South Carolina they're considering legislation to increase the penalty for rape/molestation life in prison or execution. I thought they were going overboard but those two fuckers should get hard time.

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    Sick Sick Sick! There should be a serious public outcry at the way this crime has been handled.

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    Arizona is state where getting caught topless in public (if female) can get you on the sex offender's registry, but this doesn't count as sexual assult?

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