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    so last week im at work up on stage dancing. there is this rude other girl there that keeps going up to guys in the front row asking them for dances.

    she leaves with one of them, and doesnt even put her tip dollar up. i was so pissed i called the manager and he talked to her. HOW RUDE !!!

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    Default Re: Girl not putting her tip dollar on the stage

    Some dancers do not get the whole "dancer etiquette" concept. This is a prime example of such.

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    My club is really big on dancer ettiquite. When new girls do this, I tell them the rules in a friendly trying to help them way, and if they don't get it I tell management and they take care of it.

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    Its a rule at my club that you cant approach the tip rail unless you encourage tipping. You'd get your ass kicked if you took a customer from me while I was on stage. New or not.

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    Default Re: Girl not putting her tip dollar on the stage

    lol
    this is funny b/c I just put a post on this from the opposite end of the problem-I was the girl asking for dances around the rail (but I ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS put up at least a dollar and ask the guy to)!
    But not putting up at least one dollar is rude!

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    I had a girl do that to me the other night but she was causing a lot of drama the minute she came in the door. I never said anything to her but my manager did. Then the chick comes after me calling me a b*tch and saying I f*uck the customers. The people that heard it just laughed at her. She has been there 3 times, I've been there over a year. Then she screams she is cooler than me causing them to laugh harder. I never had to say a word. Oh she also stole $40 worth of make up from me and another girls cell phone. She has gone after three of the top earners here, including myself, some of us are refusing to work with her. We are hoping she'll basically self destruct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini_Syn
    I had a girl do that to me the other night but she was causing a lot of drama the minute she came in the door. I never said anything to her but my manager did. Then the chick comes after me calling me a b*tch and saying I f*uck the customers. The people that heard it just laughed at her. She has been there 3 times, I've been there over a year. Then she screams she is cooler than me causing them to laugh harder. I never had to say a word. Oh she also stole $40 worth of make up from me and another girls cell phone. She has gone after three of the top earners here, including myself, some of us are refusing to work with her. We are hoping she'll basically self destruct.

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    Daammnnn, is that what her problem is?

    As for the tip dollar... I don't understand girls who don't do it but I can't remember a girl doing that to me. You only need to hear it once to get it, unless you're looking to cause problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victoria2
    so last week im at work up on stage dancing. there is this rude other girl there that keeps going up to guys in the front row asking them for dances.

    she leaves with one of them, and doesnt even put her tip dollar up. i was so pissed i called the manager and he talked to her. HOW RUDE !!!
    I've never even heard of this "tip dollar" concept before. I like it.

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    See as a newbie this is the kind of stupid sh*t I am afraid I will do, there are rules I dont even know exist. I really dont wanna get my a$$ kicked the first night I work lol. Thats why I am reading as many SW articles as I can.

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    Me too, wrabbitplay! Hey, veterans (I love the use of that term on this forum - now THERE'S a parade I'd like to see), is there a particular thread that addresses All Etiquette Things Newbies Should Know So As Not To Get Their Naive Little Asses Kicked? I know there are some similar ones - I've seen etiquette come up here and there, and I'm all over the Newbie Board . . . I am so worried about stepping on toes and not even knowing why.
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    Dont mean to sound like a bitch but it just seems like common sense. I had problems being new and I learned the hard way there just certain things you can and cant do till you get to know some ppl.

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    In Jersey it's ALL rail as typically there are no tables for guys. Interesting. I've seen some guys tip as we talk, others turn away and get pissy if a girl interrupts for a tip.

    At the Master's, I've never seen the girls get mad if you hustle dances by the rail. I'm assuming it's because we have 130 girls.

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    Isn't it common sense to not take a customer away from another dancer?

    Here is my story for this...

    While I have been on stage the guys either ask me for dances when I get done or I do a little hustle while on the stage. When I get done with my set and need to get the guy over to do his dance. I make him tip, and not just $1. I tell him, that since he is sitting on the stage (and usually has been all night) that he must tip at least $5 to the girl on stage. To make up for the tips she lost.

    I don't use those exact words, I kinda dumb blonde my way through it.... but it works. Im happy, the other girl is happy and the guy doesn't know any better.

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    I hate that! If the guys are at the tip rail, they are there because they want to see the dancer on stage. There are plenty of other guys you can go to. I particularly hate it when management does nothing about it. It should be their responsibility to observe it and make sure it doens't happen.

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    At the risk of starting a flame war...if a guy leaves for a dance then that is what he wanted. These girls don't carry rifles, right? The guy comes back to tip more right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist
    At the risk of starting a flame war...if a guy leaves for a dance then that is what he wanted. These girls don't carry rifles, right? The guy comes back to tip more right?
    Ummm....no. First; it is just bad dancer form and always has been. The girl is putting on her stage show;it is her time to shine, as it were. The guy is fair game when he moves away from the stage; which most of them often do. If they don't; it's usually because he wants to see all the girls (I've had numerous guys tell me this). I have not seen many guys come back to tip lately; of course they used to; but these days girls are so in need of the money that once they latch onto the guy he is done for the night. In a perfect world; you would be right b/c there would be enough money for it not to matter; but in reality this Leo wants and feel she deserves her attention for her time onstage; 'cause that is where she feels her best.....don't mess with the one or two ppl who are actually paying attention to all the hard work I'm doing.

    I'm just sayin'.......

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    Oh, wait a minute...there's only ONE girl onstage? I'm used to working with 4 or more even during dayshifts. At night there's about 8 of us at one time. And it's not 1 or 2 guys at the rail but 20. So this is a much different set up than I had in mind.

    I'm a bit of a ham so I still don't think I'd be mad because I'll lure the guy's attention right back. I do this routinely because I came up with cutthroat NY girls. It's a matter of pride to break a girl's psychological hold. This information does give me more empathy for the scene you're working in.

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    Well, yes; you are right; if there are several girls and a bunch of customers it really wouldn't make that much of a difference; but these days it seems that there are less ppl tipping onstage in general/in most clubs. A lot of factors come into consideration. It seems to me that it is best to err on the side of NOT taking the guy away instead of the other way around; just as a general rule of thumb. I can see where YOU are coming from in the fact that I worked one club that had 8 girls onstage at one time....if I got tipped myself at all it was a fuckin' miracle.

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    This is a little off topic but...the girls in NY are so hard-core they would walk in front of you in the well (that's where we collect tips) to hit the guy up for a dollar WHILE HE'S WATCHING YOU on stage. I mean you are directly in front of him and they (primarily Russians) will walk between you and ask for a dollar. Baby, that's Gangsta! So, what would you do to that chick?

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    Hmph. I SHOULD kick her ass....but not onstage. That ruins my "fantasty" image; and I was "raised" to act like a lady in public and kick ass behind scenes. Anyway; these days I'm old and tired of the drama; I 'd probably just let it go 'cause I just don't have the energy to waste being upset about it. That's just me atm. However; it IS bullshit; and realistically I should stomp her ass hard and make an example of her; so the rest of the bitches know not to mess with me. I dunno. As was said earlier upthread; the managers are the ones that should repeat and enforce this rule anyway..they are supposed to be the "fall guy" for this so that the girls don't HAVE to get in a fight/have bad blood in the first place. But, per my thread before; most of these managers are damn lazy stupid idiots. Oh well.

    BtW; I DO have a dancer's rulebook that was given to me when I first started at TIffany's back in 1994. Seriously. I need to drag it out and post it. Funny.
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    Go dreamer, go! They used to discipline them but have decided they like the cheap labor better. Now we have less big spenders and more opportunistic guys in the NY/NJ club scene. They hold a few places per shift for American girls. Way to go, managers!

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