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    Can strippers qualify for food stamps with no proof of income? I can handle my bills and rent pretty well.....but sometimes cant put anything more than butter and bread in the kitchen. How do i get food stamps

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    From a purely legal standpoint, anybody can apply for food stamps and will be approved for assistance if their income falls below the eligibility line relative to the number of children in the household etc.

    From a de-facto standpoint, given the repeated blurbs by dancers in national media lately about earning $2000 a night, given the IRS crackdown on non/under reported income in 'cash' businesses, and given the efforts by state govt's to crack down on 'welfare fraud' in order to make their state budget deficits a bit less deep, a girl officially going on record about earning 'peanuts' as a 'stripper' in order to receive food stamps / welfare / subsidized housing / subsidized utility payments is extremely likely to be the target of investigation.

    As mentioned in other threads, working in a 'cash business' like dancing is a two-edged sword. It's difficult for a dancer to prove that her income is actually above a certain level in order to obtain financing. On the other hand, it's even more difficult for a dancer to prove she did NOT earn a certain amount of money when the IRS or other gov't agency contends that she did !

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    you cannot be serious. How can a stripper not afford food?

    This pisses me off....abuse of the system.

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    if you're stripping and can't afford food, then it's time to get a new job.

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    this is almost a standard practice in many 'sleaze' clubs. Some dancers don't report their dancing income at all, then file as 'unemployed'. If that dancer happens to have a couple of kids, she can receive welfare plus medicaid plus food stamps plus subsidized housing plus subsidized utilities ... and still have her actual dancing income to spend.

    However, there have been a couple of very high profile busts in NY lately ... they charged the girls with fraud and tax evasion, and the girls will very probably wind up doing a fair amount of time along with paying back tens of thousands of dollars worth of social benefit payments they previously received, on top of being slapped with a large bill for back taxes on their unreported income.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie
    However, there have been a couple of very high profile busts in NY lately ... they charged the girls with fraud and tax evasion, and the girls will very probably wind up doing a fair amount of time along with paying back tens of thousands of dollars worth of social benefit payments they previously received, on top of being slapped with a large bill for back taxes on their unreported income.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darcy Foxx
    if you're stripping and can't afford food, then it's time to get a new job.
    I agree with Darcy.

    It may not be a matter of looks either.

    Sometimes an area has a contact level that is above a dancers limit and so she isn't making enough.

    Sometimes a club or area just isn't getting enough business to earn enough a decent income.

    There could be alot of reasons why a dancer isn't earning a decent income but in all cases it behooves the dancer to either try a different club or area or as Darcy suggested get a new job.

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    Also there are other factors you have to consider as to why someone isn' making the big bucks: LOCATION and rules, personal looks not up to par with what makes a lot of money, chronic illness, children with special needs taking up caretaker's time, taking care of an elder parent, needing to temporarily run a family business then stripping on the side a few days a week, etc etc etc. There are numerous reasons as to why one might not be able to work a lot-- there are two types of dancers-- substinence dancers and the kind that make dancing their full time job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettie Page
    Also there are other factors you have to consider as to why someone isn' making the big bucks: LOCATION and rules, personal looks not up to par with what makes a lot of money, chronic illness, children with special needs taking up caretaker's time, taking care of an elder parent, needing to temporarily run a family business then stripping on the side a few days a week, etc etc etc. There are numerous reasons as to why one might not be able to work a lot-- there are two types of dancers-- substinence dancers and the kind that make dancing their full time job.
    Still even working 2 nights per week, you can make SOMETHING! I'm not going to argue with you. Just through a few threads your way ok.

    Mr. Bettie Page, she isn't making money for any of the above reasons you stated. Here are her problems: http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64692 (flat screen + new car)
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    This sounds just like a dancer "friend" of mine. The girl makes well over $5K a month yet never has food for her kids, has no furniture, nothing. I dont understand this. Sweetie if what you posted was true about the car and furniture then you need to SELL that stuff and BUY SOME FOOD. Youre living beyond your means and need to revise your thinking.

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    I can't stand when people do that. It's like when I walk past the projects... every car in the lot is new, and more than half of them are luxury cars. I'm thinking, "Um, hello? You live in the ghetto in public housing, but you drive a Mercedes? Do you see a problem with that?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by greggy
    I can't stand when people do that. It's like when I walk past the projects... every car in the lot is new, and more than half of them are luxury cars. I'm thinking, "Um, hello? You live in the ghetto in public housing, but you drive a Mercedes? Do you see a problem with that?"
    I guarantee you that when the IRS sees automatic reports from state motor vehicle agencies that a person owns $30,000+ vehicle X, and the IRS computers cross-check that the same person reported a 'below poverty level' income on their tax return (or even worse didn't file a tax return), that THEY will see a problem with that !

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    Not to mention they will begin losing their government subsidy...

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    we are assuming that the people getting the government assistance are the ones owning the cars. It could be their kids' cars....or boyfriend or drug dealer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VenusGoddess
    Not to mention they will begin losing their government subsidy...
    yup, and in the case of the previously busted New York girls, they'll get a bill seeking repayment of all of the past government subsidy money that they have 'fraudulently' received ... on top of a bill for unpaid income taxes on previous income they didn't declare on earlier tax returns.

    we are assuming that the people getting the government assistance are the ones owning the cars. It could be their kids' cars....or boyfriend or drug dealer.
    Well, there are extremely few dancers I know that have children old enough to own and drive a car. It's of course possible that the title to the fancy wheels the dancer is driving is actually held by a sugar daddy / rich boyfriend. But based on personal experience, 90%+ of the Beemers in the club parking lot are owned by dancers. Of course, prior to 2-3 years ago, there was no automatic reporting of car titles / registrations by state motor vehicle offices to the IRS either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie
    I guarantee you that when the IRS sees automatic reports from state motor vehicle agencies that a person owns $30,000+ vehicle X, and the IRS computers cross-check that the same person reported a 'below poverty level' income on their tax return (or even worse didn't file a tax return), that THEY will see a problem with that !
    Before I type anything the following is total speculation on my part. My grandparents did not file taxes in years. I grew up with them and we were on welfare for awhile. No one noticed that we did not file taxes. I doubt there is any cross checking even going on.

    I see welfare moms with new cars and designer hand bags in Detroit. How do I know? Well they do not hide the fact they are recieve section 8 housing. Where does the money for everything else come from? That money comes from drugs. And we all know drug money isn't reported.

    It is how they milk the system. If they did do any cross checking many people would never be allowed on welfare.

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    the huge diffrence is. when you were growing up computers werent involved. cross checking takes all of what a few mins now. back then everything was done by hand or snail mail

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    i think honestly the crosschecking will take several years, possibly a decade or so to really work its way into the shadow-system of people claiming welfare and/or not paying taxes but living beyond those means with cash purchases. i mean, i see a lot of strippers with leased luxury cars or cars they got from a shady dealer (and those cars are repo'd within 6-8 months pretty regularly). the very unreliability of stripper income means that a lot of these overspending girls are not even necessarily holding onto their consumer goods long enough to set off any radars.

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    Man you must think I am really old. lol

    There was computers back then. It was in the 1990's.

    I found this looking up info..

    The food stamp office also can check information you give it with information from computer systems. 7 C.F.R. §§ 273.2(f)(7), 272.8; MPP §§ 63-300.58, 300.5; 20-006. Several cases limit what the food stamp office can do with unconfirmed information it gets from computer matches, especially if that information may not be reliable.[83 ] The food stamp office has computers that can get information from the Social Security Administration (SSA) and the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS). The food stamp office always will check with INS to find out if "non-citizens" that apply for food stamps are eligible. 7 C.F.R. §§ 272.11, 273.2(f)(1)(ii)(E), (f)(10); MPP §§ 63-300.51(b) and 300.51(h). The food stamp office may also be able to get information from computers at the agency that pays unemployment benefits (UC), computer records of other public benefit programs, the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), some banks, the state department of motor vehicles, tax collectors, and other agencies and organizations. The food stamp office may want information from these agencies' computers because they have records about people's wages, their benefit checks, their addresses and sometimes other things that affect whether they qualify for food stamps. The food stamp office usually will not tell you when it is checking information in this way.

    http://www.lsnc.net/fsguide/Part_C/P...ew_Process.htm

    It just says they may look it up, doesn't say they always do. Other sites imply they do not unless there is a report of fraud.

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    This is true. The government offices are overloaded as it is. However, with the more efficient computer programs and interlinking of department systems...the red flags will begin to become more noticeable.

    While you were young, Vamp...they had computers, but they were all reliant upon human input. These days, you just submit something online...everything is more automated these days, faster, more efficient. And, while it's got a ways to go...sooner than later, I truly believe that a lot of these people will begin to lose their subsidy (like they really need it) and possibly get charged with some kind of government fraud, or ordered to begin paying the government back...either through cash payments or seizures of all of their assets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VenusGoddess
    This is true. The government offices are overloaded as it is. However, with the more efficient computer programs and interlinking of department systems...the red flags will begin to become more noticeable.

    While you were young, Vamp...they had computers, but they were all reliant upon human input. These days, you just submit something online...everything is more automated these days, faster, more efficient. And, while it's got a ways to go...sooner than later, I truly believe that a lot of these people will begin to lose their subsidy (like they really need it) and possibly get charged with some kind of government fraud, or ordered to begin paying the government back...either through cash payments or seizures of all of their assets.

    thanks VG thats what i meant.

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    hey guys i was just letting u know that my ooney is back right again. i replaced the 50 in. flat screen with a 32 in. and dont have cable since my neighbor has millions of dvds for my daughter....i dont watch tv anyways. also my fridge is so stocked u can close the door....lol same with cabinets. guess i was just goin through a bad time looking for an easy way out. anyways.....just lettin ya know im doing good as far as this topic goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiomara
    Can strippers qualify for food stamps with no proof of income? I can handle my bills and rent pretty well.....but sometimes cant put anything more than butter and bread in the kitchen. How do i get food stamps
    How do you have no proof of income? When did you start dancing? What do you do with your taxes? Go here ( http://www.fns.usda.gov/fsp/ ) and go to online screening tool. Go here too... http://www.fns.usda.gov/fsp/applican...ts/10steps.htm

    It says u need pay stubs or something to let them know what you're making. So, basically... I don't think so. Maybe u could talk to someone and tell them your situation if you're really desperate.
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    Glad to hear it Xiomara. I hope that man issue is much better as well. Keep your head up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiomara
    Can strippers qualify for food stamps with no proof of income? I can handle my bills and rent pretty well.....but sometimes cant put anything more than butter and bread in the kitchen. How do i get food stamps


    Hmm....I'd suggest moving somewhere you can handle better because you aren't handling anything if you're going to play the system and scrounge off the goverment. No offense sweetie, but food stamps are meant to help out people who really need the help. And yes i'm well aware that there are people who cheat and take advantage of that system every day...but do you want to be one of them?
    If you can pay your bills but can't buy food that tells me you have some frivilous bills such as a cell phone, digital cable or sattelite, etc.... I think you should think about those things before you go and try to get assistance...and NO you can not get assistance if you have NO income unless you go to specific programs that they will require you to do.
    Why don't you cut back on your bills, find a cheaper place to live, buy your damn food and start thinking about the future and try to put some money away as well.
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