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    This is probably kind of an off the wall post and I've been thinking about whether or not I should post it for the past few days, just because I know SW is generally anti-drug for the most part, but I've been driven crazy over the last few weeks.

    I've taken ecstasy every once in a while recreationally over the past few years and about a month ago I hit a rough patch in my life, during which time I popped a pill at work for the first time and really enjoyed the hustle. I didn't do anything I wouldn't normally do, but I just felt more open and friendly and much more sexy onstage and during lapdances and I almost doubled my regular earnings that day. So, I kept doing it. I lost all this weight and made all this money and I was so ecstatic! But after about 2-3 weeks of doing it most days, I noticed I started feeling tired and burnt out and like I "needed" the drug in order to work, period. So I stopped, cold turkey. Now I weigh about 10lbs more than I ever have before I started using drugs at work (and it shows), I'm not motivated to work at all, my hustle is slow and boring, I'm not making even half of what I used to make, and I'm just miserable in general.

    Slowly I'm getting myself, my emotions and my drive back, but it's really difficult. I'm not looking for any advice or any type of reaction in particular, but I guess I just wanted to share my experience with anybody who may be able to relate at all... blah... I have definitely learned a lesson-- the hard way.

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    Well, *I'm* not anti-drug, for sure. I'm anti-misuse. (Misuse, in the case of Ecstasy, generally means taking it more than once a month.)

    *HUGS*

    AngelEyes, sounds like you went too far too fast and got into trouble. I know you said you aren't looking for advice, but I have some idea of how you can give some light herbal support to your brain chemistry while it repairs itself. Let me know if you want my tip. Good luck, in any case.

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    I tend to notice that this forum is pretty much anti-drug too. Or at least no one talks about it.
    I have a tendency toward painkillers. I don't take them on a constant basis, and I am certainly not addicted to them, but I will buy a few when they are around. I don't go seeking them out all the time, but if I find some, I'll do them.

    I feel like I can do my job a lot better when I am on them. There have been times where I am not making money for days, then I pop a Vicodin or two, and I am banking all of a sudden.

    It certainly is disheartening to consider that I am able to do my job BETTER on drugs. I understand what you're talking about completely.

    The only conclusion I can come to is that either I am in the WRONG business or maybe I need some kind of drug as a mood stabilizer. I used to be on anti-depressants but I didn't like them. I tend to self-medicate during very stressful times in my life.

    As for gaining 10 pounds, you are probably the only person who notices. That is hardly any weight at all.

    My only suggestion is what I've stated above about my own experiences. I'm not saying you're an addict, but you are probably unhappy with some aspect of your life that is leading you to medicate yourself. It could be your job...although I dont know you well enough to say for sure. I can only speak for myself.

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    p.s. -
    I also used to do Ecstacy and found that it made me completely depressed and near-suicidal throughout the following week or so. It drains all of the good chemicals in your brain (seratonin in particular) so that you are depleted of it by the end of your 'roll'.
    Because there is such an intense high and feeling of euphoria, there has to be a negative side, a payback of sorts. The downside is just as intense as the upside from most experiences.
    I have a close friend who was addicted to it for a few years. It got so bad he started selling pills to support his habit. He was taking up to 20 of them a week, but is paying the price now. He is facing jail time, and is rarely motivated to leave his house in the meantime.
    It is not as physically addictive as it is psychologically. It can really mess you up long term also. I know people who were fine before they started doing pills, and are permanently battling anxiety and depression as a result.
    You are probably experiencing a temporary dull period after all that intense happiness. It doesn't sound like you were doing it for very long, though. I hope you are able to cope and bounce back soon.

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    Take some 5-HTP, and multi vitamin. You have COMPLETELY depleted yourself of serotonin by doing that (When you take ecstasy it basically "dumps" ALL of your serotonin out into your brain.....causing an overflow, which is why you feel SO damn good) Now that you've overdone it and your brain can't catch up , you've got to help it.

    5-Hydroxytryptophan (5-HTP) is an amino acid that works as the middle step between the amino acid tryptophan and the creation of the important brain chemical serotonin.

    Basically in lamens terms, it'll help with the production of more serotonin. THIS IS NOT TO BE ABUSED EITHER!!!!! Don't think that you can take the X then just replenish your serotonin supply by taking 5-HTP. BAD IDEA!!!! Your brain will basically short circuit if you do that. This is only to be used in an emergency situation such as yours!!!!! Also, eat healthy, try to avoid any soft drink and/or caffeineted drinks. Drink plenty of water (that's another thing, you dehydrated your body really bad while doing that) the excess weight you put on will eventually come off, but only if you take care of yourself!

    (I know all this cuz I used to do X back in the day and I did my research about it heavily!)
    Hope you feel better!!!

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    OH AND........5-HTP can be found in any vitamin/mineral aisle at like Walmart or Target, I'm pretty sure. Back in the day i bought mine from Jewel (the main line of grocery stores where I live) and if you can't find it there, try one of those specialty vitamin shops like GNC or Vitamin Shoppe!!!!!! GOOD LUCK!!!!!

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    You also could be withdrawing from whatever the e was cut with. Especially if it was cut with speed, then your comedown is going to be particularly awful and exhausting...and it also emphasises the addictive properties of the pills you took.

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    I agree with fieryfox. Get some 5-HTP asap. I did too much ecstacy a few months ago, and I was also feeling depressed. I have been taking these awesome multi-vitamin's by natures way called 'ALIVE'- Check out the links below to read about them.



    You may also want to try going on an anti-depressant for a few months. I am on wellbutrin, out of every anti-depressant I have tried, wellbutrin has worked the best. And one of the most common side effects is weight loss.
    I have about lost 15 pounds from them.

    Good luck! I hope you feel better soon.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexxaHex
    I tend to notice that this forum is pretty much anti-drug too. Or at least no one talks about it.
    I just think it's one of those don't ask/don't tell type of things. Me personally, I don't do drugs BUT I have noticed in some threads like Angels that there will not be alot of posting on the subject because alot of dancers on SW are going through their own shi and won't have room to talk. Pot can't call the kettle black ya know

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    i knew another dancer who did this. i used to drive her home at the end of the night. good lord knows what she could have gotten into if i didnt!

    hmm...i'm agreeing with what most of the girls on here say. i have heard eating things with potassium in them can help, like orange juice. i would try and flush the toxins out of you. eat lots of fresh foods with no preservatives (like the raw diet). no caffeine or alcohol, lots of water or herbal tea- think gallons, so you pee it all out. start exercising, something cardio, like running or bicycling to get you moving. stay active! if you need a break from work, try doing something that makes you feel good that isnt part of the nightlife. this helps me when i'm in a funky mood. try volunteering on your days off or working out at a gym with a friend.

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    agree with all. you have completly drained all of your seritonin. that why you are down and have no energy. the good news is it will come back.

    extasy is something you can only take with at LEAST a week or two in between. it can make some depressed. never did that to me though. i did learn early on to abuse is to lose the "specialness" of the roll. not to mention the tolerance factor.

    i used 5http a couple times. i didnt notice a diffrence. but at that time i was rolling almost every weekend.

    partying on occasion is fine. MODERATION IS KEY. anytime something becomes a habit. it aint casual partying anymore

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    As a trainer I would tell you now...drugs do not do anyone any good especially when they're working at a club. I've experimented with drugs some years back, and the only thing it did was make me wish I hadn't the next day.


    I have to be clear-headed on the stage and in the club. I can't drink, because being Asian there's something about my liver or metabolism which cannot properly metabolize the enzymes in alcohol which then make me sicker than a dog, not to mention red in the face...( NOT ATTRACTIVE). I haven't done drugs in years except the occasional Vicodin LOL and I think I'd have a heart attack if I did.

    Everyone's mind and metabolism does things differently which is why drugs effect everyone in myriad ways.

    One thing I LEARNED TO AVOID right away at the club...I thought drinking a Red Bull would give me the oophm on stage, and it just made me want to have a heart attack even more LOL.

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    The usual dose for 5-HTP is like 4-5 pills a day, some people don't notice a difference cuz they only do it on occasion, other, like in your case, that over did it, should notice that it helps a little. 5-HTP is basically a building block for serotonin. It doesn't necessarily speed up the process, it just helps with the chemicals to get serotonin production underway. ALSO!!!! if you WERE to keep doing this, you would eventually notice that even taking 5-HTP doesn't help. The natural order of things is how the brain was meant to function, by overloading it day in and day out with dangerous chemicals you eventually start to damage parts that become irrepairable. I definitely would advise against any further use of the drug, not just for the sake of your brain, but for your own health (like the one chick said above, you have NO idea what could be cut into those pills! One day you could get a bunk ass pill that's been cut with rat poison (someones idea of a joke/easier way to make more money) and there goes EVERYTHING. I think it's more important to try and feel good about yourself and working without drugs, cuz why risk losing EVERYTHING for a couple of "good" night!)

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    I can't believe I'm posting this but I've experimented with just about every drug out there, including some really scary ones that could have landed me on skid row had I gotten addicted.

    ANGEL: PLEASE, follow the advice of the girls here. The bad thing about drugs is, your body WILL become dependent on them and then you can't function without it. Your body is responding to the cold turkey stopping by becoming depressed and lethargic. Detox. Listen to what Fiery Fox says especially...feel good about yourself and work without drugs...otherwise in the long run, drugs will destroy you.

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    Doesn't ecstasy often have heroin mixed into it? Heroin is one of the few drugs that actually produces a chemical dependency. Your body has to learn how to live without it again. It might be worth just taking off for a few weeks and detoxing - just DON'T do any drugs. If you need rehab, it might be an option worth considering. Heroin addiction is hard to beat alone.

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    Ecstasy is a drug that fucks with the serotonin levels in the brain. I tried it four times and I have to tell you it did NOTHING for me. NOTHING. I hear its a hit or miss even more so than other drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yekhefah
    Doesn't ecstasy often have heroin mixed into it? Heroin is one of the few drugs that actually produces a chemical dependency. Your body has to learn how to live without it again. It might be worth just taking off for a few weeks and detoxing - just DON'T do any drugs. If you need rehab, it might be an option worth considering. Heroin addiction is hard to beat alone.
    The one thing that you must remember about drug synthesizing is the fact that pressing anything that is opium/heroin based, does not chemically mix well with MDMA (ecstasy). Two, the cost efficiency would not make sense either. I'll make a list for you to let you know the things that ecstasy can (usually is) be mixed with. Also the typical feelings thus such.

    Pure MDMA Capsule - white powder found ONLY in capsule form, never pressed pills. By far THE best roll you will ever have especially if taken multiply. Usually goes by the name "Molly"

    MDMA+Methamphetamine - If you're getting pressed pills, this is a VERY good combination if you like your rolls speedy.

    MDMA+Ketamine - I personally do not enjoy this combination, as the "trapped" feeling of K seems to just make people act very different then they would on a normal roll.

    MDMA+Mescaline - VERY rare and hard to find, but a gem if you do. They will mostly contain MDMA and a drop of mescaline will follow (this is the procedure that is done when making MDMA with Mescaline.

    MDMA+2C-I - This one is VERY rare as well as 2C-I is a somewhat new chemical and I was just going to list it in the Misc. category that can be found at the bottom of this post, but I really would like to make people aware of the effects because THIS chemical, in my own words, is going to be the next wave of brand new drugs that aren't scheduled illegal yet. Just like ecstacy when it first surfaced in the underground rave scene. I'll describe just the basics though as I can go on and on about 2C-I. Imagine a roll with a hit of acid. Somewhat like that but at the same time, 2C-I is a very controllable trip. It seems to focus more on the visuals and that wonderful body high feeling, but there is no head trip like acid. I also might add that 2C-I is a language so like and unlike many drugs at the same time. It's a completely different frequency mentally concerning. Combining MDMA and 2C-I makes for a straight up amazing time..

    MDMA+DXM - "Robo-Tripping" is something that I am not too fond about and personally HATE. It's dissasociative and confusing. The "Internal" trip as I like to call it or "the dark path" as compared to LSD which leads you down the light path of a trip. Blending all of this together and putting it in pressed pills honestly makes me want to shoot the maker for providing such a horrible pill. Every single one of my friends either got sick or fell into a very bad place within themselves after getting pills that were DXM containing. Stay the hell away from these.

    AND ALL THE REST!!!

    Caffiene
    Acetaminophin
    Pseudephdrine
    Diphenhydramine
    Fentanyl
    Carisoprodol
    MDA/MDE - analogues of MDMA (but it's just not the same!!)
    BZP
    TFMPP

    These are the most common or at least the one's I've heard about. I can guarantee that there are probably more. The sight below has current listings of pressed pills and whats in them. Very useful.


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    Ok, since someone else said it, 5-HTP is my advice too.

    But only take the 50-mg pills and only take them once or twice a day. You DON'T want to substitute one addiction for another -- and I've seen people go overboard with this, even though it's just a plain ol' herbal serotonin booster. The idea is to get your brain back to *normal*, and this stuff can help, but my feeling is really go light on it.

    You need your brain to "learn" to go back to normal serotonin manufacture/release cycles -- not to just let another pill take over the hard work.

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    I almost posted about a similar situation. I've been smoking weed for four years now and ive tried shrooms and was literally forced into meth. I started taking E about a year ago. It is my fav drug and it makes me content, open, and friendly. I dont normally feel "high" just happy. I hate E tho cuz the comedown.

    Has anyone felt like a bad acid trip coming off E?Last time I did it I came down and everything was spinning and I couldnt look in mirrors without crying.

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    I would NEVER recommend doing E on a regular basis or ANY drug. Those of you who do are damaging your brains beyond comprehension. You don't need any artificial means to be happy at work or in life.
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    Reading this thread gives me a headache.My head hurts just thinking about all this.
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    After just experimenting a few times with certain chemical substances my head hurt!! Not to mention my body.

    I don't want to judge because everyone has the freedom to choose their lifestyle, but I don't condone regular drug use...it's just too risky IMHO and not good for your health, body or mind in the long run.

    I can't drink either. How about you OTB??? I have that Asian syndrome where I turn into an Oriental Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer ( Note: not attractive even in the dark)...and my face heats up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlluringAva
    I can't drink either. How about you OTB??? I have that Asian syndrome where I turn into an Oriental Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer ( Note: not attractive even in the dark)...and my face heats up.
    I can definately drink.I have a high tolerance.Dirty Martinis anyone???
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    It is actually pretty safe, to all evidence, to take once a month or so. All the studies that report brain damage have focused on serious overuse.

    Unfortunately, they're not likely to commission a study that reviews the effects of moderate use. The political bottom line always trumps science.

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    I tried E four times and I swear it must have been bunk stuff because it didn't do shit for me. Maybe I have a weird personality that doesn't require feeling warm and fuzzy LOL

    I was mainly talking about things like cocaine, speed, heroin, the hardcore drugs. And by no means should E ever be used on a daily or even a weekly basis.
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