Results 1 to 25 of 25

Thread: The Wacky No Smoking Bar Man of Denial

  1. #1
    Featured Member Prester_John's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2003
    Location
    The Wastelands of New Jersey
    Posts
    1,839
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 14 Times in 9 Posts

    Default The Wacky No Smoking Bar Man of Denial

    So its day 1 of the Smoking Ban here in New Jersey, and by some misfortune I had to be the guinea pig to work the Saturday daytime shift.

    Being that its Easter weekend, and that today was an extremely beautiful day, I wondered if the chirping of the crickets might have a odd echo that only I would be around to appreciate it. To my suprise it was fairly busy, and a good number of smoking regulars came in. They were all rather good sports about not being able to smoke, which speaks well of a general amount of our clientelle.

    Then, of course, there was one guy who had to be an entire jackass about the whole thing, and seemed to live in a world where he can do what he likes.

    The convo (approximately):

    Him: Man, I need an ashtray.
    Me: I wish I could give you one.
    Him: Why cant you?
    Me (a little incredulous): Uhhh.. the Smoking Ban is now in effect?
    Him: Fuck that. Just ignore it and give me an ashtray
    Me: Dude, that aint happening
    Him: Why Not?
    Me: Because we will be in full compliance with the law, as we do not wish to accrue any fines or penalties due to violation of the now established strictures.
    (Side note - I love using such wording against hostile assholes. It confuses them ).
    Him: Well, give me an ashtray. Let them fine me.
    Me: You arent getting one.
    Him: Well, I will just smoke and ash on the floor.
    Me: You light a cigerette and you will be asked to leave.
    Him: You wont do that. Im a paying customer and you need me.
    Me: Light it up and see what happens.
    Him: You know, screw you and you wuss asses who cave into shit like this. You just let them run you around and you will do whatever they say like freakin' puppets.
    Me: If you dont leave now, you will be forcibily removed.
    Him (as he is leaving): Well, Im going to go to a fucking bar where they have the balls to let their paying customers smoke and not some pansy ass freakin place where they just fucking cave in.
    Me: Have fun in Pennsylvania!


    I would be curious to find out how many times this little scene played itself out today. LOL

    I should post more tales from my bar. There are definitely a number or wackadoos that come in from time to time, and their doings could be rather interesting.

    PJ

  2. #2
    Featured Member sander8son's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2003
    Location
    Under Bridge 227 on I-95, Massachusetts
    Posts
    1,621
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts

    Default Re: The Wacky No Smoking Bar Man of Denial

    nice, keep the stories coming

  3. #3
    Moderator Djoser's Avatar
    Joined
    Nov 2002
    Location
    Key West
    Posts
    16,343
    Thanks
    1,395
    Thanked 5,487 Times in 2,768 Posts

    Default Re: The Wacky No Smoking Bar Man of Denial

    Him: Why Not?
    Me: Because we will be in full compliance with the law, as we do not wish to accrue any fines or penalties due to violation of the now established strictures.
    (Side note - I love using such wording against hostile assholes. It confuses them ).


    ...I should post more tales from my bar. There are definitely a number or wackadoos that come in from time to time, and their doings could be rather interesting.

    PJ
    Yes, you should...

    I would love to visit and watch this sort of thing going on, except my howls of laughter would probably piss the cretins off, and trouble could ensue.

    It's true, too, about dealing with ignorant fools like this one--it happens frequently in Daytona. They don't understand what the hell you are doing--and the three syllable words really throw them for a loop. They get this confused look in their eye, suspicious and baffled at the same time.

    Nobody ever talks like this on television, except on a few cop shows, perhaps, and neither one of us looks anything like a cop.
    You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.
    Friedrich Nietzsche

    Free your mind, and your ass will follow.
    George Clinton

    ______________________________________

  4. #4
    Veteran Member Eques's Avatar
    Joined
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    205
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: The Wacky No Smoking Bar Man of Denial

    Quite a few bars simply charge a small cover fee, or collect one from the smokers and pay the fine. But I generally tend to smoke my cigars in private clubs or amongst friends so it really doesn't end up being much of an issue to me... Though I have quite blatantly defied the no smoking ban in Calabasas. But then, you can't legally smoke outside anywhere in Calabasas so its not that hard to defy it.

    Still I'd rather they not ban smoking in virtually every place of business. Its a legal activity, making it illegal for someone to do a legal activity at your place of business is an abuse of power. Either outlaw smoking entirely, or allow people their property rights and let them determine if they want smoking on their property or not.
    Never stand begging for that which you have the power to earn.

    The truth lies in a man's dreams... perhaps in this unhappy world of ours whose madness is better than a foolish sanity.

    Miguel de Cervantes (1547 - 1616)

  5. #5
    Veteran Member sugartaste's Avatar
    Joined
    Feb 2006
    Location
    north jersey
    Posts
    424
    Thanks
    171
    Thanked 328 Times in 123 Posts

    Default Re: The Wacky No Smoking Bar Man of Denial

    I still can't believe the ban actually went into effect at 12:01 am last night, announced over the loudspeaker. The managers at my club have already said there are no plans to create a smoking area for dancers, while custies and even bouncers can go outside. Fucking ridiculous, but I think quitting sounds easier at this point. I wonder if that sneaky 25-foot ordinance hidden within the ban will be enforced at clubs and such as well, though? It sure wasn't last night.

  6. #6
    Veteran Member pipermarau's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2006
    Location
    texas
    Posts
    387
    Thanks
    8
    Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts
    My Mood
    Confused

    Default Re: The Wacky No Smoking Bar Man of Denial

    i think i'd be in therepy or have to form some non smoking addiction to deal with that law. smoking is my only release from the assholes i run into and not being able to vanish into the dressing room and smoke one would end up in me killing someone.

  7. #7
    Featured Member MadisonM's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Posts
    1,424
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 10 Times in 8 Posts

    Default Re: The Wacky No Smoking Bar Man of Denial

    If a strip club is nonsmoking because of a smoking ban, can the dancers still smoke in the dressing room, or can they not smoke at all anywhere in the building?
    Take the road less traveled- just make sure you have a map.

  8. #8
    Jay Zeno
    Guest

    Default Re: The Wacky No Smoking Bar Man of Denial

    In Colorado as of July 1 this year, the only "public places" exemptions are casinos, tobacco shops, businesses with three or fewer employees, and outdoors of businesses.

  9. #9
    Featured Member former_LV_dancer's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2005
    Location
    New York City
    Posts
    794
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 8 Times in 2 Posts

    Default Re: The Wacky No Smoking Bar Man of Denial

    Working in a bar wouldn't be as much fun without the freaks. Yesterday when I was bartending a guy walked in and was trying to sell a supposedly $400 Dickies winter coat for $50. I doubt a $400 Dickies coat exists. He said it weighed 50 pounds, was oil resistant, and oh so warm. By the way it hit 80 degrees yesterday here.....bad time to sell it. One of customers at the bar said "$50....hmmm that's only a dollar a pound your selling it for." The guy with the coat was crazy, not to shocking for NYC and he was dressed like Duran Duran from the 80's. He was wearing a big gold cross necklace too and another customer said "why don't you sell that gold cross you're wearing". Well.......that wasn't good....then the crazy guy started shouting how he's going to burn in eternal hell flames and stormed out.

  10. #10
    God/dess Deogol's Avatar
    Joined
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    5,493
    Thanks
    120
    Thanked 50 Times in 35 Posts

    Default Re: The Wacky No Smoking Bar Man of Denial

    Quote Originally Posted by Eques
    Quite a few bars simply charge a small cover fee, or collect one from the smokers and pay the fine. But I generally tend to smoke my cigars in private clubs or amongst friends so it really doesn't end up being much of an issue to me... Though I have quite blatantly defied the no smoking ban in Calabasas. But then, you can't legally smoke outside anywhere in Calabasas so its not that hard to defy it.

    Still I'd rather they not ban smoking in virtually every place of business. Its a legal activity, making it illegal for someone to do a legal activity at your place of business is an abuse of power. Either outlaw smoking entirely, or allow people their property rights and let them determine if they want smoking on their property or not.
    Well, it isn't a legal activity if there is a law against it.

    Perhaps the phrase you are looking for is a "right of choice" or "natural right."



    They won't outlaw smoking completely - because they can't get the support for it. So they follow the ole death by a thousand cuts tactics (like what happens often to strip clubs.)

    Now I have been hearing laws banning alcohol in certain parks (even if it is your own picnic.) So hang on to your hats - it will probably happen to a lot of things the PC crowd wants changed until we all drink water and eat granola.

  11. #11
    God/dess Deogol's Avatar
    Joined
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    5,493
    Thanks
    120
    Thanked 50 Times in 35 Posts

    Default Re: The Wacky No Smoking Bar Man of Denial

    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Zeno
    In Colorado as of July 1 this year, the only "public places" exemptions are casinos, tobacco shops, businesses with three or fewer employees, and outdoors of businesses.
    Like how the states gets money from casino's and so basically help themselves out there to a different standard than the rest of the population.

  12. #12
    God/dess doc-catfish's Avatar
    Joined
    Nov 2002
    Location
    123 Tornado Alley Way, Hooterville USA
    Posts
    6,322
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 36 Times in 30 Posts

    Default Re: The Wacky No Smoking Bar Man of Denial

    15 states down, 35 to go.

    You know what irks this non-smoker about smoking bans? Where do the smokers go (partuclarly on a cold day) when they can't smoke indoors. Right by the frigging entrance that everyone needs to pass through. I guess that's what this 25 foot rule in NJ is all about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Zeno
    In Colorado as of July 1 this year, the only "public places" exemptions are casinos,
    See thats another thing. Why do the casinos get off (this apparently applies in New Jersey too) while Mom and Pop restauraunt or bar owner have to comply. Oh, thats right, casinos can afford lobbyists, and since the state gets a cut of their profits, they wouldn't want to cut off their own hand.

    And yet in my own state, I can't even enjoy a nice meal at a Denny's without some old geezer from the Marlboro man era coming in thirty seconds after I've ordered, sitting down next to me, ordering nothing more than a cup of coffee, and chain smoking about four cigs in the half hour I'm there.

    I'd move, but the wave of intolerance will get here eventually.
    Former SCJ now in rehab.

  13. #13
    God/dess doc-catfish's Avatar
    Joined
    Nov 2002
    Location
    123 Tornado Alley Way, Hooterville USA
    Posts
    6,322
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 36 Times in 30 Posts

    Default Re: The Wacky No Smoking Bar Man of Denial

    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol
    it will probably happen to a lot of things the PC crowd wants changed until we all drink water and eat granola.
    Then they'll start regulating that too. They'll specifically restrict us to no fat, no preservative granola, and require us to run all drinking water through a Brita pitcher.
    Former SCJ now in rehab.

  14. #14
    God/dess VenusGoddess's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Home
    Posts
    13,598
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 28 Times in 23 Posts

    Default Re: The Wacky No Smoking Bar Man of Denial

    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol
    Now I have been hearing laws banning alcohol in certain parks (even if it is your own picnic.) So hang on to your hats - it will probably happen to a lot of things the PC crowd wants changed until we all drink water and eat granola.
    Well, there is nothing wrong with drinking water and eating granola. At least these don't pollute the environment.

    Now, I have nothing against people who smoke. But, to tell you the truth, I'm glad that the smoking ban is in Chicago. There is nothing worse than trying to eat a nice dinner at a nice restaurant and having Chain Smoking Charlie puffing away through the entire meal. This wouldn't be so bad if we requested the smoking section...but there is no sense in putting the smoking section next to the non-smoking section with a half-wall partition and a sign reminding smoke to attempt to stay on the proper side of the partition.

    I think people should smoke when they want. However, I have a problem with being subjected to it in public. If I go to a chain smoker's house, I'll expect to be around smoke. But, I don't like having to hold my breath (and smell for the rest of the day) by walking past the "smoker group" that hangs around outside of a business because the building is non-smoking. I don't like having smoke blown in my face. In fact, I don't even go to bars (or work in one anymore) because I just cannot handle the secondhand smoke or the complete disregard for burning people (which I've had happen to me countless times over the years of cocktail waitressing, dancing, and bartending).

    On the other hand, I do believe that people should have the right to smoke. In clubs/bars/what-not...they should have a smokers room and a non-smokers room. That way, people can make a choice.

    But, when you try to protect the rights of some, you end of violating the rights of others. In this case, non-smokers should be allowed to enjoy going out without coming home with an elephant sitting on their chest. It's a right to enjoy a day/night out without having to breathe (more) carcinogens (we have enough in the air from factories).

    But, that's just MHO.

  15. #15
    Jay Zeno
    Guest

    Default Re: The Wacky No Smoking Bar Man of Denial

    Yeah, I think that stopping an addictive, toxic practice in public where it affects others is a lot different than mandating one's personal food choices. I realize others disagree with me, and that's fine. The difference is very clear to me.

    I'm not defending smoking in casinos. I guess the rationale could be that if the State is going to license vice, then by golly, let's allow vice. The State also runs numbers games (lottos) at returns that would make Mafia bosses wince. So it goes.

  16. #16
    God/dess Jenny's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2002
    Posts
    9,746
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 50 Times in 31 Posts

    Default Re: The Wacky No Smoking Bar Man of Denial

    I do have something against smokers - not as people, but as smokers, you know? I hate it. I danced a little dance of joy when they passed the law (the real law) here. The first time they passed it, it was watered down and very ineffectual (it was largely as PJ's customer said - penalized the customer, and allowed them to take their chances). The second time it penalized the bar - and that time it worked. I'm not crazy about the smoking at entrances, but it is better than the smoking in the bar. It also occurs to me that it is easy to distinguish between an activity like smoking and an activity like eating cookies. I don't think there is THAT slippery a slope between the two. I mean there are all sorts of things people are not allowed to sell for consumption. You could not pour bleach into soda cans and advertise telling people it tastes good and they should drink it. And I don't think a "My Choice" argument would fly exceedingly well mapped onto those circumstances. There are a lot of choices people aren't allowed to make, and I fail to see how anyone can get worked up about smoking as a right. And yes, the regulation of smoking is all about a gradual ban. That is the plan. Always was. I think it is a good plan, myself.
    I have taught that the sky in all its zones is mortal and its substance was formed by a process of birth

  17. #17
    God/dess Silverback's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2004
    Location
    On board the Kobayashi Maru
    Posts
    2,387
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

    Default Re: The Wacky No Smoking Bar Man of Denial

    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol
    Well, it isn't a legal activity if there is a law against it.
    I had a similar thought when I saw the "If they outlaw guns, then only outlaws will have guns" bumperstickers.

    Because, by definition, anyone with a gun, at that point, would be an outlaw.

    I'm not sure they thought it that far through, though.
    "He will come in one of the pre-chosen forms. During the rectification of the Vuldrini, the traveler came as a large and moving Torg! Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the McKetrick supplicants, they chose a new form for him: that of a giant Slor! Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!"

  18. #18
    God/dess doc-catfish's Avatar
    Joined
    Nov 2002
    Location
    123 Tornado Alley Way, Hooterville USA
    Posts
    6,322
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 36 Times in 30 Posts

    Default Re: The Wacky No Smoking Bar Man of Denial

    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    And I don't think a "My Choice" argument would fly exceedingly well mapped onto those circumstances. There are a lot of choices people aren't allowed to make, and I fail to see how anyone can get worked up about smoking as a right. And yes, the regulation of smoking is all about a gradual ban. That is the plan. Always was. I think it is a good plan, myself.
    So is it also a good plan when the authorities regulate, or shall we say, "gradually ban" a stripper's ability to make money taking her clothes off too? I mean according to the complaintants rationale, strip clubs contribute to the spread of STD's, raise the incidence of crime, and lower the property value of their homes.

    If you advocate the destruction of your neighbor's liberties, don't be surprised when another holier than thou fascist wants to take away yours, and if the science to justify their claims is hokey or at the least unproven, tough teepees.

    You can't have it both ways folks.
    Former SCJ now in rehab.

  19. #19
    Moderator Optimist's Avatar
    Joined
    Feb 2004
    Location
    House of Aion
    Posts
    8,074
    Thanks
    7,881
    Thanked 5,705 Times in 2,127 Posts
    My Mood
    In Love

    Default Re: The Wacky No Smoking Bar Man of Denial

    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol
    Now I have been hearing laws banning alcohol in certain parks (even if it is your own picnic.) So hang on to your hats - it will probably happen to a lot of things the PC crowd wants changed until we all drink water and eat granola.
    Yeah, they actually won't let you drink beer on NY beaches even if it's at your family picnic in a plastic cup!!!! In NEW YORK! Christ, man.

  20. #20
    God/dess Jenny's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2002
    Posts
    9,746
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 50 Times in 31 Posts

    Default Re: The Wacky No Smoking Bar Man of Denial

    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish
    So is it also a good plan when the authorities regulate, or shall we say, "gradually ban" a stripper's ability to make money taking her clothes off too? I mean according to the complaintants rationale, strip clubs contribute to the spread of STD's, raise the incidence of crime, and lower the property value of their homes.

    If you advocate the destruction of your neighbor's liberties, don't be surprised when another holier than thou fascist wants to take away yours, and if the science to justify their claims is hokey or at the least unproven, tough teepees.

    You can't have it both ways folks.
    It would be inconvenient for me - that wouldn't mean that the government is not within their bounds to do so. And indeed, naked entertainment, particularly when accompanied by alcohol, is heavily regulated (in Canada under provincial liquor licenses). So you are arguing that I should be afraid of the destruction of a liberty that I never had. And as I said - I don't think the slope between selling consumable, addictive poison that has no beneficial aspect at all and taking one's clothes off, or eating cookies, or any of a number of other activities is all that slippery. And really, if we think the ONLY reason eating cookies is legal is because smoking is legal we (a) really need to examine our logic as a society and (b) really need to examine the status of cookies. There is no need to have it both ways - it is simply a matter of appropriate characterization of each activity.

    I would, however argue, that your first contention is full out wrong and not supported by any fact, the second and third may be adequately addressed by appropriate zoning (which is already the case).

    And are you arguing right now that the science behind the anti-smoking campaign is hokey?
    I have taught that the sky in all its zones is mortal and its substance was formed by a process of birth

  21. #21
    Featured Member MadisonM's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Posts
    1,424
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 10 Times in 8 Posts

    Default Re: The Wacky No Smoking Bar Man of Denial

    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish
    15 states down, 35 to go.

    You know what irks this non-smoker about smoking bans? Where do the smokers go (partuclarly on a cold day) when they can't smoke indoors. Right by the frigging entrance that everyone needs to pass through. I guess that's what this 25 foot rule in NJ is all about.

    .
    Some of the entrances to buildings at my school have a 20 foot rule that you have to be at least that far away from the entrance to smoke. It sucks for me as a smoker, because I can't just hop outside when it's freezing out and take a couple drags and dash back in again, but I follow the rule. I totally understand that nonsmokers don't want to walk out of the building and into a cloud of smoke. There are some people that don't follow it (it isn't very strongly enforced- there aren't enough public safety officers on my campus to enforce it) but I follow it out of courtesy to others. While it's inconvenient for me, it's for the health of others. It especially sucks when it's raining, because many of the entrances have overhangs that would be really nice to smoke under in the rain, but I can't because of the 20ft rule. I think that if we're not allowed to smoke under them, they could at least be nice and make certain areas "designated smoking areas" with an overhand for us to stand under.
    Take the road less traveled- just make sure you have a map.

  22. #22
    God/dess Deogol's Avatar
    Joined
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    5,493
    Thanks
    120
    Thanked 50 Times in 35 Posts

    Default Re: The Wacky No Smoking Bar Man of Denial

    Quote Originally Posted by VenusGoddess
    Well, there is nothing wrong with drinking water and eating granola. At least these don't pollute the environment.

    Now, I have nothing against people who smoke. But, to tell you the truth, I'm glad that the smoking ban is in Chicago. There is nothing worse than trying to eat a nice dinner at a nice restaurant and having Chain Smoking Charlie puffing away through the entire meal. This wouldn't be so bad if we requested the smoking section...but there is no sense in putting the smoking section next to the non-smoking section with a half-wall partition and a sign reminding smoke to attempt to stay on the proper side of the partition.

    I think people should smoke when they want. However, I have a problem with being subjected to it in public. If I go to a chain smoker's house, I'll expect to be around smoke. But, I don't like having to hold my breath (and smell for the rest of the day) by walking past the "smoker group" that hangs around outside of a business because the building is non-smoking. I don't like having smoke blown in my face. In fact, I don't even go to bars (or work in one anymore) because I just cannot handle the secondhand smoke or the complete disregard for burning people (which I've had happen to me countless times over the years of cocktail waitressing, dancing, and bartending).

    On the other hand, I do believe that people should have the right to smoke. In clubs/bars/what-not...they should have a smokers room and a non-smokers room. That way, people can make a choice.

    But, when you try to protect the rights of some, you end of violating the rights of others. In this case, non-smokers should be allowed to enjoy going out without coming home with an elephant sitting on their chest. It's a right to enjoy a day/night out without having to breathe (more) carcinogens (we have enough in the air from factories).

    But, that's just MHO.
    I am a non-smoker - might as well get that out of the way.

    But I am concerned about the amount of freedom that has been removed from this country. If someone's else's freedom is an annoyance to others - it seems all the requirement to eliminate that freedom.

    This smoking thing is an interesting measuring stick.

    There is a couple places that have banned smoking in parks and the like - so smoking outside isn't even allowed. (As well NJs 25 foot law.)

    Add to that, there are people drafting laws to disallow smoking in cars (especially when children are present) and some have been ticketed for smoking in their own homes because the smoke drifted over to the neighbor's window or something like that.

    I suspect it will come down to from "where you cannot smoke" to a point of legislating "where you can smoke." These are two very different meaures of legislation.

  23. #23
    Jay Zeno
    Guest

    Default Re: The Wacky No Smoking Bar Man of Denial

    I'll bet poor PJ wasn't counting on the thread becoming a smoking debate. Welcome to the hijack, PJ (says this hijacker).

    Actually, to my sensibilities, to use Jenny's example, even allowing smoking is tantamount to allowing soda cans filled with bleach. Except the bleach is a watered down so it doesn't kill right away, but it will kill you. Oh, yeah, and it has stuff in it to make it addictive. Drink up, and we've got a customer for (a shortened) life. It's not our fault - hey, it's their choice.

    Like it or not, I see the spread of anti-smoking laws as grass-roots efforts at the local and state levels to get that bleach off the shelves, because the bleach manufacturers have too much money and lobbying power at the Federal level to bring it properly to the FDA who, in a more consistent world, would classify this stuff as a controlled substance.

  24. #24
    God/dess VenusGoddess's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Home
    Posts
    13,598
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 28 Times in 23 Posts

    Default Re: The Wacky No Smoking Bar Man of Denial

    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol
    I am a non-smoker - might as well get that out of the way.

    But I am concerned about the amount of freedom that has been removed from this country. If someone's else's freedom is an annoyance to others - it seems all the requirement to eliminate that freedom.

    This smoking thing is an interesting measuring stick.

    There is a couple places that have banned smoking in parks and the like - so smoking outside isn't even allowed. (As well NJs 25 foot law.)

    Add to that, there are people drafting laws to disallow smoking in cars (especially when children are present) and some have been ticketed for smoking in their own homes because the smoke drifted over to the neighbor's window or something like that.

    I suspect it will come down to from "where you cannot smoke" to a point of legislating "where you can smoke." These are two very different meaures of legislation.
    You know, if people respected other's, this would never happen. I cannot tell you how many times I've asked someone in a restaurant, if they were going to continue smoking, to please blow it the other way, hold the cigarette on the other side...only to get a dirty look.

    I have nothing against people smoking. I do have a problem with smelling like smoke by walking into a building, I have a problem with getting burned by someone smoking who is not paying attention and waving their arms around like they are directing flight traffic patterns. I have a problem with someone blowing smoke in my daughter's direction.

    Telling someone what they can or cannot eat would be a freedom stealer. But, in my opinion, when what one person (or millions) do causes others harm...and they are not being mindful or respectful of that...then something's got to be done. I mean, I'm not going to get fat if my neighbor eats McDonalds 5 times a day. I'm not going to die of heart failure if my neighbor doesn't want to work out. But, I can have respiratory problems, and injest carcinogens by being in an environment that is full of smoke. That is why I left bartending, partly why I left dancing, and why I will not ever work in an establishment that allows smoking. It's a smokers CHOICE to smoke in public. They can smoke in their homes and in their cars. I shouldn't have to make the choice of avoiding places I like to go because the smoke is horrible. I loved to go clubbing every once in a while...but I couldn't stand not being able to breathe, smelling like an ashtray, and having my clothes or my hair burned by drunk smokers.

  25. #25
    Featured Member thechaosfairy's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Dear Gods plz send money to Oregon K luv you bye
    Posts
    1,780
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts

    Default Re: The Wacky No Smoking Bar Man of Denial

    I'm only going to tell people what they can and can't eat once they start pooping at my tip rail.

Similar Threads

  1. wacky sex misadventures
    By spyder in forum The Lounge
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 08-26-2009, 12:32 AM
  2. quitting smoking while working at the bar?
    By Lydia Rose in forum The Lounge
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 05-09-2009, 11:02 AM
  3. Wacky Period
    By pookie in forum Body Business
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 02-28-2008, 01:47 PM
  4. my calves are going wacky....
    By i.breathe.in in forum Body Business
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 04-04-2007, 02:10 AM
  5. Man loses shirt in topless bar
    By lethalsoul in forum The Lounge
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 05-20-2004, 05:48 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •