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    3 years ago my brother and his wife resuced a rottweiler puppy. They have given her a great home and she is very sweet. I have never seen her show any agression she wont even bark if a cat comes in the yard she'll run the other way

    Now my sister-in-law is pregant. She is now considering giving up the dog because of all the bad press rottweilers have recieved. She says she has seen too many reports of rottweilers attacking babys and young children and she is not willing to take any chance that might happen to her baby. My brother will go along with her if thats what she wants. Should they give up thier dog ?

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    No,they shouldn't.There are plenty of obedience classes the dog can take.Getting rid of the dog is the chickensh*t method.
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    Just to clarify I know my sister-in-law loves "Rocky" and she is very torn. She is not just using this as an excuse to try and get rid of her.

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    I say "NO".

    They have had this baby for 3 years? She's family. There may be some jealousy issues to start out with, but if they watch her, all will turn out fine.

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    One should keep an eye on any animal around your child! Including hot pots and pans, electrical outlets, sharp objects, plastic bags... anyone getting the ghist of this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol
    One should keep an eye on any animal around your child! Including hot pots and pans, electrical outlets, sharp objects, plastic bags... anyone getting the ghist of this?
    Yep,you might as well get rid of everything and live in a box,if you're going to go that route of thinking.
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    good points.

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    Rottweilers are loyal as shit. The bad press is just hype, my friend had a cocker spaniel that drew blood on a baby.

    It's just like making pitbulls illegal to own, a ridiculous solutions for tragic problems.

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    I bet that there are still more cases of Chos attacking babies than Rotties. And besides... for every bad press bit you see about Rotties, there are how many VERY good dogs out there that never harm a fly? Seriously. I've seen babies raised around this breed... I cant say I've personally ever seen one bite ANYone, let alone a baby.
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    They should see how things go once they have the baby. If there are tons of problems then, then they might have to get rid of the dog. They should at least give it a chance to see how things go before they jump the gun and just get rid of the dog. They should just make sure they supervise the dog when it is around the baby in case a problem does arise.
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    as long as they are carefull and watchfull of the dog when it's around the baby, they shouldn't have a problem. if the dog starts to show aggression toward the child though, that's a different story. -any- dog should be watched around a baby, for the safety of both. no one can say for sure what will happen till the two interact.

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    I never tihnk it's the breed itself that is bad.. Everyone remeber the Dalmation episodes after 101 dalmations the movie came out? No one knew that they are very active and need training and the animals were harming people...
    BUT, if they know this dog then I don't thinh they should worry. Just watch the behavior of the dog towards the child.
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    Most of the news stories you hear about (any) dog attack is usually done by dogs who are with owners who don't know fuck-all about their breed. You cannot have a Rottweiler chained to a tree for 20 hours a day and expect it to not be aggressive. The best owners are the one who go out and buy/rent every single book available on their breed and are mindful of the dog. I used to be friends with a Rottie breeder and they bred and raised all of the puppies around kids. Their dogs were exceptional. But, they didn't just sell the dogs to anyone. It takes a certain personality to successfully "own" a Rottie...and a 5'0", 90 lb woman who's as quiet and timid as a mouse has no business owning a Rottie.

    There's more to owning these types of dog than just giving it a home.

    There are "animal psychologists" out there who your brother and SIL can take their dog to for an evaluation. It's not concrete, but it may help ease their fears of an unprovoked attack.

    The most important thing is to teach the dog that it is NOT ok to play with baby. Some dogs don't mean to hurt anyone, but don't realize how much stronger they are than their humans.

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    I was talking to a friend of mine online, and we were discussing dogbites by breed in percentages--I was telling her that I had read somewhere that labs bite more often than other breeds.

    Naturally, since labs are among the coolest breeds out there, she was skeptical.

    Even though I had to get ready for work, I'm weird about having to find out shit I know I've seen in print when it's questioned--so I did some online research and found the following horrible, and very weird story...

    http://archives.cnn.com/2000/US/10/0...nian.kills.ap/

    Gotta watch those little lap dogs, too, I suppose.

    I never did find the documentation I was looking for about labs, except in Colorado or somewhere there was a study that said so.

    But most dog bites aren't so bad--the lethal attacks do happen more with 'guard dog' breeds.

    Sounds like the dog should be fine, especially if it runs from a cat, lol...

    Just keep an eye on it.
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    I do hope that if they decide to let the pupper go that he goes to a great family and not the shelter.. Please please don't let them do that. This was an honored member of the family and he deserves to be treated that way.
    I have met many a loving family that adopted a dog because the other family had a child and it worked out beautifully, the dog never deserves to be put in the pound just because it was inconvenient for it to live with the family.
    That said, I hope they make the right choice for the baby AND the dog.
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    I remember hearing about people who were having children getting rid of their cats, because there was an old wives tale that said cats would lay on a baby's face to smother it. I haven't heard it in years, though.
    Kind of a roundabout point to make, I know, but it goes to show what people will believe in the name of paranoia.
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    Pet ownership should be for life! And this dog showed no signs of aggression ever with you. When the baby is born the key is not to allow all attention to shift away from your dog! The dog is still a part of the family. What many experts say works best for nice introductions for baby and dog is for the mother to take baby for strolls and walk the dog along side them! This will make the dog feel like he is still part of the family while knowing he will be able to go out with baby too!

    Also a huge mistake (i know you are not one of them) is MANY parents just don't watch over the child good enough when the child starts to crawl. This is VERY bad news. Toddlers LOVE to treat animals like toys. A dog can't say 'back off' so he growls or bites to make the child stop. It even happens to many adults.

    It's a matter of you all with baby and dog. And dog having quiet time away from baby (perhaps while baby sleeps) and a nice petting for a few moments!

    This would make any pet dog happy! They are pack animals by nature, it's instinct to behave the way they do under every circumstane.

    Many many rotties are very protective of the children in the homes. It will all be up to you and your wife to help the dog adjust....is easier then most think.

    Keep baby away from dog near face at very young age...babies have a smell! Introduce baby and dog during strolls/walks OFF his turf at first. Oh and never make a big fuss over baby while dog wants attention too! Remember the most highly trained dog is still a running on child like behaviour. That is why commands are taught!

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    I visited my sister-in-law today.We discussed starting Rocky in obedience school, I don't know if she is too old, and also having a professional evalution of her. I don't think they will give her up, but if they do it will not go to a shelter. I will take her long enough to find a better home.

    There is one thing that worries my a little. As I said earlier Rocky never shows aggression, but she does love to play and gets excited easily. I don't think she would try to harm a baby (or toddler) but I don't know if they can make her play more gently so as not to unintentional hurt or scare the young one.

    Also Rocky's behavior has change a little bit over the past week. She has become more cingy to my sil. She will not be more than a few feet away at any time. I am guessing she feels the stress they are under or she senses my sil is pregnant and is trying to be more protective, but I don't know if dogs danks again. Thanks for all your opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dishis
    We discussed starting Rocky in obedience school, I don't know if she is too old, and also having a professional evalution of her. I don't think they will give her up, but if they do it will not go to a shelter. I will take her long enough to find a better home.

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    i've been told by alot of "experts" that the saying "u cant teach an old dog new tricks" is a complete lie
    so heck yeah, take the doggie to an obedience school or have someone come out to you and evaluate the situation
    do u ever watch "the dog whisperer" ?
    that guy is the best, watch it if u can...

    if something ever happens with a child and a dog, its the owner that takes the responsibility...so make sure u have confidence in whatever choice u make

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    thank you thank you for saying the dog won't be going to a shelter. I volenteered at one at it was heartbreaking to meet these amazing creatures that people just dumped... Grrr.
    that said, just because the dog is clingy doesn't mean it's a bad sign. I have had my rat terrier for three years and she just started following me around everywhere, I am not pregnant but have been having some major issues lately and I think she really wants to help out if she can, cuteness works, I tell you.
    That is probably what the dog is doing, picking up on that stress and trying to lend a hand, or paw..
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    I was raised with rottwielers (i can never spell it ) when i was about 8 months old my mother was robbed; the robbers came into our house, tied her up on the couch and took everything. the whole time all she could think about was her baby. the next day she went to a friend who bred rotties and asked for one of the pups, out came a dog whom was named drummer but we called Boo (it came from when we'd come home and find our doors pried open, the house black, all our stuff was counted for & there was a black blob on the rug wth flashing white teeth). that dog weighted 98lbs and lived to be 14! he was the genglest, kindess creature for me (baby riding on doggie's back) and my mother.

    there was even a time when i was like 2 & wantered to the main road near the house, a lady walked up to my mom & said "is that your little girl? i'd go get her myself but theres this huge dog with her!". my mother still belives the only reason i wasn't kidnaped by someone (this was just after the adam walsh thing) was because of my ever present protector.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dishis
    There is one thing that worries my a little. As I said earlier Rocky never shows aggression, but she does love to play and gets excited easily. I don't think she would try to harm a baby (or toddler) but I don't know if they can make her play more gently so as not to unintentional hurt or scare the young one.

    Also Rocky's behavior has change a little bit over the past week. She has become more cingy to my sil. She will not be more than a few feet away at any time. I am guessing she feels the stress they are under or she senses my sil is pregnant and is trying to be more protective, but I don't know if dogs danks again. Thanks for all your opinions.
    This is why it is so vitally important that they take her to obedience school and teach her the "proper ways". Rotties are big dogs with big appetites for play. Your brother/SIL need to get that dog out of the house and RUNNING. Playing fetch, just having her run all of her energy out will help curb the "over-enthusiastic" playing later. It will also be extremely important for them to teach the baby, "GENTLE". Sometimes when animals get their ears and tails pulled, bent, etc...the first instinct is to snap. Not allowing the baby be near the dog alone until she is old enough to understand and the dog has been around her long enough to get used to her is also important.

    No dog is ever too old to learn new tricks.

    Lots of luck to your Brother and SIL.

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    i work at a vet hospital & part of my training was to know the breeds most frequent to bite. they were...Chihuahua, Coker Spaniel, Rotwieler & Mini Dobermain Pincher (there are always exceptions to the rule). this is from my training and i know dogs behaive different at a vet hospital than they do at home. case in point the rottie i grew up with that i spoke about earlier, sweet as could be with my family, but everytime another person got near him he had to be muzzled. realisticaly from waht i've seen, the smaller the dog, the bigger the attitude. i've had more little guys bite me than the biggies even atempt.

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    I grew up with doberman's, and for a long time there was a lot of talk of how dangerous and unpredictable they are. (Their brains swell and they go mad attacking their owners ) To this day I do not know where that rumor started.

    Anyway my mother got the 1st one when I was about 3 and my Brother was still an infant. The dog was I believe 3-4. Within a matter of weeks this dog(Pride) followed me everywhere. And if my brother would cry she would go over to wherever he was and whine until someone picked him up.

    I remember the dog but not all of the details, my mother to this day say's it was the damndest thing she ever saw, and although the dog never bit any of us(she was very sweet) if my mother tried to spank us Pride would growl at her.

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