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    So, Ive been at my club for 6 months now. I work 2 nights a week (Sat and Sun) and MAYBE sometimes throw in an extra. I always tip out well, never start problems, never get drunk. Just work. I am a top girl. Lots of girls only make $100 a night.

    So, this night, last Saturday I was working. Since we were closed Sunday I had my Sun reg come in. We ended up in "VIP" (its just a box where we charge extra for dances and can skip stage) Hes usually a couch guy - $20 dances but since I didnt want to go on stage I took him into the back. I usually do 3/$100 but for him did the min - $25/song. Made $200 off him.

    The end of the night - Im counting my money - I seriously thought I made more than I had - felt like I was running around all night but I guess I didnt.

    I do my tip out - $20 for the manager - $20 for the DJ - $15 for each bouncer (theres 2) then I look and see I had more $1s so I throw the bouncers each an extra $5.

    I give everyone their money. Getting ready to leave when the manager Trisha calls me into the office. She says "Audrey, with what youve made tonite dont you think you should have tipped more?" Im thinking "what Ive made? - I didnt make that much"

    I know this is about Troy - a bouncer I *thought* I got along with well. Im thinking - I gave everyone $20 - WTF? So I throw everyone an extra $5. Its not the money now - its the point.... Ive always tipped well, why is he complaining about my tip when hes getting what - $5 from these girls that make $100.

    I was pissed. Seriously steaming. Ready to quit. But I like this club. I couldnt figure out what happened.

    I figured it out. I forgot that I had spent some money with Lois - she made me an outfit. OK, so I DID make a bit more than I thought but not THAT much. AND I think they thought I did 3/$100 dances and made more from my regular. AND I threw in the intermission songs free (theyre 1 min and some girls charge for them) But still - whos business it is how much I make and since when is there a mandatory minimum tip out?!

    I went in Wed night and was in the smoking room. Told Gary (other manager) that I need to leave at 12 because I have school in the morning. I said Trisha said its ok on school nights to leave early - his words "OK, but make sure you take care of everyone" OK - this PISSES me off. WTF do you mean by THAT sarcastic comment? I say nothing but this comment ruined my night. At 11 I corner Gary. I tell him all that happened and said Im seriously upset that they would think Im trying to screw them. I told him that I never cause problems, always make money, always tip well, etc etc.

    He says - Theyve had a few other girls complain about Troy wanting more money for tips lately.

    SO this takes me on another trip. WHY would Trisha make me tip more and WHY would Gary make that rude comment when they KNOW hes been getting greedy about tips? So, needless to say I told him it was Troy or me. Im not putting up with this crap - I can work anywhere but I choose this club because I like the management and girls and I *thought* the bouncers. Gary will be talking to the owner about Troy.

    I dont want him to lose his job over me. I just dont want to be hassled about $5 again especially when it wasnt called for. If Id have made $600 and only tipped out $80 then yea - maybe but this was BS. Guess Ill find out what happened tonite - I want to say something to Troy - explain what happened (with the $25 dances and outfits) just to keep things mellow. Blame myself just so theres no tension. Dunno tho - should I suck up my pride just a little bit to keep the waters smooth (thats if hes still working there) Oh I hope he didnt lose his job over me or isnt going to be a jerk to me because he got a talking to over this. Im almost dreading going to work tonite.

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    I think if he gets canned, it's his own damn fault. He's being a dick, and that's uncalled for. He knows that you tip better than the other girls, so now he's spoiled and wants to see if he can get more out of the deal because of it. Fuck him Audrey, you're doing nothing wrong.

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    That sucks big time Audrey, I understand what you mean about not wanting to cause a bunch of problems for the guy, but at the same time, now he's causing problems for YOU. If he wouldn't have talked to the managers first, then you wouldn't even be in this position. It wasn't like he personally came up to you and said *hey i think you're being cheap* You could try talking to him, though he may be pissed after having management talk to him.

    Go to work, make your money, and don't worry about a greedy bouncer
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    Don't say shit to him! He's getting a reprimand because all the girls at your club are sick of him, not just you.
    Your managers came to you to squeeze some extra money for him because they don't want to pay their employees. They want you to do it. It was a sneaky move and frankly, having to tip the managers is an unethical expectation on their part. Screw their greedy asses! (I'm a little bitter this morning)

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    I do love a good solid rant, having written a few myself, lol.

    Yours was pretty good, too--except for one little thing...

    that bit about "I don't want him to lose his job over this.", or whatever it was you said (sorry, I'm lazy).

    I want him to lose his job over you, now...

    This is total bullshit! You tip a bouncer the same anount as your DJ, and he's pissed?? Fuck him--unless your DJ is incompetent as hell, and never plays anything you like, that's just wrong.

    Sure, in some clubs a bouncer might actually protect you from some drunken slob trying to stick his tongue down your throat, but a DJ will do far more for you, every single night, than a bouncer ever will, unless maybe you have a lot of rapists and murderers frequenting your club.
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    And the DJ god has spoken. hehe

    That does seriously suck Audrey. I think I might try organizing the girls to do a group complaint about that bouncer. Surely management doesn't expect all of you to just keep coughing up for some dickwad bouncer. I'd also point out that he shouldn't expect MORE $ than the managers - that should help motivate them to put him in his place. A guy like that needs to be gotten rid of. You shouldn't give a damn if he loses his job - he most certainly doesn't care anything about your well-being.

    If it gets worse, I'd be finding a new club. There are just too many out there to put up with such bullshit.

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    Girl, I don't know what you made, but you still tip-out way more than I do. Of course, I'm in a different location with different norms...... But I would be pissed if I were in your shoes! Remember, these people are guaranteed an hourly wage, you aren't. Those bouncers and the manager did nothing to deserve more $$. Don't let them push you around! You pay to work there, you deal with more risk, and you deserve more for that! Plus, you still have to pay a big chunk of taxes out of that cash you go home with. Greedy turds!
    I know you like working there, so I wouldn't make a big stink about it. Instead, I would tip out a normal amount everynight *you were already being generous*, and if they do something special, tip them more and make it clear why. If they were shitty, I would tip less and make it clear why. Obviously, they need to be reminded that their performance is what will get them more, not being greedy little pricks.

    Yea, I'm really bitchy about this, and I just woke up : /

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette
    And the DJ god has spoken. hehe
    Ha! that's good--but I'll be the first to admit that most DJs getting 20$ are tipped far more than they are worth--most of the ones I've seen, anyway. But the average bouncer in the clubs I've worked in does far less for the dancers than the average DJ.
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    I hope they fire him. he's bad for business, and if it's other girls he's doing this to also, then the club should take that seriously. The club makes money off the dancers not the bouncers.

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    At our club a tip is a tip, it's not mandatory. If you tip well you will get treated well if not you get ignored or treated like nothing at all. All employees are expected to accept tips with a smile and a thank you. If he doesn't appreciate your tip then stop tipping him all together. He would get in deep shit for complaining about a good tip at my club and you should just tell him that you feel as though you tip better than most and if he doesn't like it then you'll just stop tipping all together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AudreyLeigh

    I do my tip out - $20 for the manager - $20 for the DJ - $15 for each bouncer (theres 2) then I look and see I had more $1s so I throw the bouncers each an extra $5.
    This is the point that I don't like. Why is it that when us good girls tip accordingly, the minute "others" feel we're not paying up to par they have a problem. He bitches about you paying him $25 when other girls are normally tipping him $5.

    Forget that, I know some girls on SW say that they have an automatic tip out of 10%. Hell, at my club, it's to the dancers discretion and I like it that way. Trust me, I dont' f*** anyone over, but I for dam sure am not gonna give some guy a cut of my money when he doesn't do shi for me.

    Also, at my club, we aren't allowed to tip the door guys or the boardmarkers.







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    [QUOTE=You pay to work there : /[/QUOTE]

    'nuff said

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    So what happened?



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    It all went ok. Im not sure if they spoke to Troy or not... he was cordial but not as talkative as he usually is to me. I ended up tipping out more (because I MADE more). $40-DJ, $40-Manager, $30-each bouncer. This is what I typically tip because I TYPICALLY make what I made last night. I have no idea what was up everyones *sses the other nite but when I tipped last night I looked at them and said I dont want to ever hear anything about my tipping methods again.

    There was a girl last night - she didnt make much and was asking the DJ how much to tip out. He said not to tip him or the manager but give the bouncers each $10. WTF? Tipping the bouncers (who just stand around all night) but NOT the DJ. This club is soooo back ass-wards....

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    Quote Originally Posted by AudreyLeigh
    I ended up tipping out more (because I MADE more). $40-DJ, $40-Manager, $30-each bouncer. This is what I typically tip because I TYPICALLY make what I made last night.
    This bouncer guy and the manager were bitching about a difference in FIVE DOLLARS?? Geezus.

    I'm glad you handled it so well, Audrey, I would have taken the money back and told him to fuck off. But, that's just me. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by AudreyLeigh
    ...he was cordial but not as talkative as he usually is to me.

    I ended up tipping out more (because I MADE more)...when I tipped last night I looked at them and said I dont want to ever hear anything about my tipping methods again.

    There was a girl last night - she didnt make much and was asking the DJ how much to tip out. He said not to tip him or the manager but give the bouncers each $10. WTF? Tipping the bouncers (who just stand around all night) but NOT the DJ. This club is soooo back ass-wards....
    Yeah, well if he was less talkative--good, lol--sounds like a total jerk anyway.

    You handled that situation in an absolutely perfect way--you gave them what they wanted, but let them know you weren't going to put up with anymore bullshit--kudos to you! The 'carrot and stick' method has always worked for me pretty well, too, in this business.

    That DJ sounds like a pretty nice guy--maybe too nice, lol...

    What kind of strange grip on your club do these bouncers have, that they expect to be tipped more (in total) than the DJ or the manager? Are they 'connected' or something? I've heard of, and dealt with (as competitors for tipping) greedy bouncers, but those guys take the f*cking prize!
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