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    OK, last night, I was at the favorite club and the favorite bouncer was there. I know, I know, I have a favorite bouncer. But still, he is a really nice guy and he takes good care of me and my friends when we come in. I usually tip him about $30/night in about 6 $5 increments. He has never indicated that this is too little or done anything but given exceptional service. Last night, at the end of the night, I asked him for something and he expressed some frustration at me. I was taken aback and assumed, in extremely intoxicated logic, that somehow my tipping was insufficient. On the way out, I tried to apologize and slip him a Jackson. He declined and stated he was just having a bad night.

    But it got me thinking...how much is a good tip? I know we touched on this in another thread but no one has ever put it out there. So I will wear my tip guidelines on my sleeve. Tell me if I am cheap, or outrageous, or crazy or whatever. Also, tell me what you do. Maybe we can work out some universals, as anti-trust as that might be...

    GenWar's Tip Guidelines

    Strip Club
    Dancer
    If ask for dances
    - bad dance - 0%
    - standard to good dance - 0%
    - exceptional dance - 20% or $5, whichever is greater
    If don't ask for dances (and doesn't take hint to ask for them)
    - Time spent (in 15 min blocks) * $15 minus approx cost of drinks/food
    - Minimum 1 hour (no more than 2 sessions) for tip; must be good
    company
    - If less than 1 hour or many sessions - cost of drinks/food; additional on whim. Also, get wingman to ask for dances.

    Waitress (tabbed)
    - 25-40% depending on service. Default = 30%
    - +2-4% if attractive
    - +3-5% if flirty (does not require attractive)

    Waitress (non-tab)
    - $1 per delivery
    - +$1 if attractive (per delivery)
    - +$1 if flirty (does not require attractive) (per delivery)
    - Max $1 tip for making change/fetching one's
    - End of Night - Rate overall service on scale of 1-10; Tip $2 * rating on scale

    Shot Girl
    - dance included - 0% (paying for dance)
    - no dance included - 50-100% depending on level of contact

    VIP Room/Table Host/Hostess
    - 10-15% over mandatory tip

    Champange room/VIP room host/hostess/guard
    - $10 flat rate unless dancer suggests otherwise

    Bouncer/Manager
    - $5 once identified as bouncer/manager of choice
    - $5 for each service performed thereafter

    Bathroom Troll
    - $1
    - +$1 if provide service other than transmission of towel
    - +$.25-$.50 for each object (mint/cigarette/cigar) obtained
    - +$1 if he has a personality or attempts to interact
    - Minus 100% if he interacts in ANY way during "business"

    Doorman
    - $0 unless exceptional service

    Coat Check Girl
    - 10% or $1 whichever is greater.

    Travel

    Taxi Driver
    - 15% over charge and round to nearest $5.

    Airport Porter
    - $2 per bag

    Cruise Ship Porter
    - $5 per bag (You'll see them again a LOT quicker.)

    Hotel Porter
    - $1 per bag (Has anyone seen these guys lately?)

    General
    Valet
    - 20% or $2, which ever is greater, upon drop off.
    - 20% or $2, which ever is greater, upon pick up, if not waiting more than
    3 minutes.

    Waiter
    - 15%
    - +2% if attractive
    - +2% if flirty with wife (requires attractive)
    - -5% if flirty with me (unless REALLY attractive)

    Waitress
    - 18%
    - +3-12% if attractive
    - +5-10% if flirty (requires attractive)
    - +25-50% if flirty with wife (never happens )

    Hooters Girl
    - 25%
    - +5-15% if attractive
    - +5-15% if flirty

    Restaurant Host/Hostess
    - $3-5 for exceptional service

    Barber
    - 30% or $5, which ever is greater

    Take out order coordinator
    - 7-15% depending on speed of processing; Default 10%.

    Delivery Driver
    - 10-15% depending on speed of delivery

    What about everyone else?

    -gen
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    Strip Club
    Dancer
    So-so dance or worse (one and done) at any price = $0 tip
    Prepaid dance regardless of quality (almost always one and done) = $0 tip
    Dancer asks for a tip = $0 tip, maybe $5-10 if we did a lot of dances and they were exceptional, but definitely less than what she would get had she kept her mouth shut.

    Good dances (worth multiple purchases). Depends on the price of the dance.
    $10/dance: 2 songs $20+5 tip, 3 songs $30+10 tip, and just add $15 ($10+5 tip) for each song after three. I'm sure the gals would love me in Phoenix. Most done with one girl: 8
    $15/dance: 2 songs $30+0 tip, 3 songs $45+5 tip, approximately 10% of total after three. Most done with one girl: 2 (not that common a price for some reason).
    $20/dance: two songs $40+0, three songs $60+5, approximately 10% of total after three. Most done with one girl: 21

    $25/dance: two songs $50+0, three songs $75+5, bonus $5 every three songs. Most done with one girl: 5
    $30/dance: 2 to 4 songs, no tip. $10 bonus every fifth dance. Most done with one girl: zeeeero.

    $35+/dance: Not buying one.

    Tips are usually paid lump sum at the end of my time with dancer, which may include multiple dance sessions. If she had the consideration to give me a lot of "off the clock" time, I'll bump the tip up accordingly.

    - Consistency bonuses (like an extra $20) awarded periodically for favorite dancers, and if a gal is not consistent, she'll never be a favorite dancer.
    - Oh My God! bonuses (extra $20-40) for dancers who find my trigger, are on it like white rice, and will hit it again and again with glee to make me do their bidding. Instant membership to the favorite dancers sorority. Too bad they're all from out of town.

    Waitress/Bartender (non-tab, and I would never run one)
    - $1 per drink, $1.50 if its expensive (say over $6). 10% of change amount if I need some ones.

    Shot Girl
    - unless my dancer wants one, no sale. Otherwise $1 shot.

    Champange room/VIP room host/hostess/guard
    - $10-20 depending on how much trouble I want to get into, but don't often go to VIP, and when I do, its usually by the song.

    Bouncer/Manager
    - $0, unless I need them to do something for me. Haven't needed one yet.

    Bathroom Troll - $1, begrudgingly.

    Doorman - $0. Cute door girl - $1.

    Other

    Taxi Driver
    - 15% and round up to nearest $1.

    Waiter
    - 1/6 of the bill (16.6%)
    - 1/5 of the bill (20%) if service is exceptional

    Waitress
    - 1/6 of the bill (16.6%)
    - 1/5 of the bill (20%) if attractive
    - 1/4 of the bill (25%) if flirty (requires attractive)

    Hooters Girl
    - 1/5 of the bill (20%) if attractive
    - 1/4 of the bill (25%) if flirty (requires attractive)
    They're almost always attractive aren't they?

    Buffet restaurant with drink and bus service
    - $1-2 per member of my party

    Hotel Housekeeping - $1-2 per day

    Barber - $2-4, on the higher side if stylist is cute.

    Delivery Driver = $1 per pizza (but I usually go carryout)

    Casino Dealer = $1-5 if I'm winning significantly. Otherwise = $0.

    Casino Cocktail Waitress = $1 per drink.
    Former SCJ now in rehab.

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    I like to tip...and I tip healthy for hot sexy girls with no prima donna attitudes. If I do the Champaigne/VIP for a half hour ($75 w/ 2 beers) I tip the bouncer 5-10 for an extra 10 minutes of clock time...usually works.
    Heres the best part...I always have 25-50 singles that are dispersed during the VIP and this usually gets exrta treatment and attention. So much so, that the girls at this club really don't want to be "done" at the end of the clock.
    I have gotten several extra songs at no charge with some of the girls...it's weird...but I certainly am not complaining.

    Waitress:
    These girls can be fun, I always tip well and usually get a peek since in many clubs these girls do not dance. And if you get a frisky one...I usually waive her over not for a beer, just to give her some tips..in the pants, the bra...etc. It makes them fell sexy and wanted.


    Girls who ask to be tipped at the end of a dance??? WTF? No thanks.

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    I tip the waitress a buck or two per drink depending on the price of the drink.

    I used to tip the bouncer at my old favorite club who ran VIP ten bucks to forget to set the timer.

    I tip the waitress who serves me in the VIP room with my TR favorite Miss A $40 to stay out of the room and not call management when she see's something that shouldn't be happening. If she forgets that my hour was up 30 minutes ago she gets another $20.

    I don't tip dancers as a rule since $20 bucks for 4 minutes is damn good money. There are exceptions but it's mostly just rounding-off five or ten bucks in the dancer's favor. I don't ask for change after a lap dance.
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    Strip Clubs:

    Lap dances = it varies anywhere from $0-20, it depends upon how many dances I get and how well I enjoyed them, more often than not though my feeling's are similar to Yoda's.

    Stage tips = typically $2, sometimes more, it can be dependent upon my supply of $1's though.

    Time = I don't tip a dancer for their time. This is usually not a issue though as I don't invite/allow dancers to sit with me if I have no intention of spending on them, it can be an issue if they sit down un-invitedly but that's their problem not mine.

    Drinks = whether from a waitress or bartender it is usually $1-2 a drink.

    Bathroom troll = usually $1, but that $1 covers my entire visit, if I make subsequent visits after the initial one they are not getting more money from me. I really detest bathroom trolls BTW.

    Bouncer/Doorman = it depends upon what service they are providing me, if they find me a seat when there would otherwise be none available they'll get $3-5, again depending upon what's in my wallet and how good the seat is. VIP rooms are a different story as I'm tipping them for a good seat and basically to stay away, that's usually $10-20 and is usually a good investment.

    Door girl = usually $1, I'm not sure why though as I'm not sure that collecting my cover charge constitutes a service.

    Valet = honestly I don't use valet unless I have to, generally $3-5 if I do.

    Manager = nada
    DJ = nada

    Others:

    Waiter/Waitress/Restaurant = usually 20%, sometimes more, rarely less unless the service absolutely sucked.

    Buffet w/drink & bus service= $1 a person

    Pizza delivery = 20%

    Taxi driver = 20%

    Barber = 20%

    Hotel/Airport porter = $1-2 a bag

    Casino dealer = $1-5 if I'm winning

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    QUOTE=Richard_Head:
    Time = I don't tip a dancer for their time. This is usually not a issue though as I don't invite/allow dancers to sit with me if I have no intention of spending on them, it can be an issue if they sit down un-invitedly but that's their problem not mine.

    Buffet w/drink & bus service= $1 a person

    Casino dealer = $1-5 if I'm winning[/QUOTE]
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    Time: I feel to clarify that I do not interact with dancers with "no intention of spending on them." However, I do not ask for dances. Ever. I also do accept the walk up and say "Wanna dance?" Ever. So, in order to get my business, a girl has to spend some time and has to ask for the business. A Lot of dancers (you would be surprised how many) can sit for extended periods of time without making their move. I don't know if you have ever been in sales but it can, at times, be intimidating to ask for the business. A successful salesperson HAS to get over that but sometimes, if the girl is liking my company as much as I am liking her, and we are drinking, eating, laughing, bullshitting with the wingman or whatever, she might just avoid the topic and hang out. I am totally cool with this but if she is there a long time (as outlined above), I feel I need to take care of her.

    My ATF is the master of this. She will hang for 15 min or so, then she will ask. If she gets the shake-off, she understands it is temporary, and she goes and works the room. When she has made the circuit, be it 5 minutes with nothing or 2 hours with multiple customers, she returns and begins the cycle again. This maximizes her money from both a customer standpoint and allows her to get my warchest.

    Buffet: Ooo, good one. I usually leave $1-2 for cleaning up after me. At least.

    Dealer: Don't ever gamble. Thanks for the advice, I'll keep it in mind if I start.

    Just some thoughts...sorry if I got a touch defensive there.

    -gen
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    When I go as a customer I'll tip the doorgirl a couple of bucks, a bouncer only if they seat me. Since I only drink water or soda I tip the waitresses an extra couple of bucks.

    As far as tipping for dances, this depends not only on the quality of the dance but also on whether the club takes a cut of the dance price; if she's only keeping $15 of that $20 and they were good dances, I'll tip to make up the difference.

    Pretty much all service providers get 20% from me, including cabbies, waiters, delivery drivers, massage therapists, hairdressers and such. Unless the service is poor in which case it's 10%. If it's great they get 25-30%.

    Bellmen at the hotel get $1-$2 a bag, housekeeping gets tipped $20 for stays over four days. Valet gets $2-$5 depending on how frequently I'm getting the car.

    By the way, one of the things that initially made Mr. Wayward very attractive to me was his ability to tip people discreetly and well during our first travels together. Not that this factors into the clubbing experience since you're not taking dates, but it's definitely something women pay close attention to.

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    I tip everyone waaaay too much.

    Door girl = 10-20
    stage dancer that I like = minimum 20 per song and sometimes 100 if I want her attention.
    All bouncers get a 50 when I walk in.
    The manager or host gets 100 or more.
    I've been known to tip the DJ to play music I prefer.
    Waitress usually like this... $10 drink = 10 tip, $20 round = 20 tip.

    I know this is silly but here's my logic:
    1.) Many of these people don't earn a ton of money and they all have bills.
    2.) I have been fortunate and I can afford this.
    3.) Everyone is happy to see me again. There's a lot of club employees that are really happy when I walk in and they make sure I'm happy.

    You guys would shit if I told you what I pay my favorite dancers. I can't tell ya as you'd throw me off this website.

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    Strip clubs:

    -Stage work
    -Home club, dancers I know: anywhere between $5 & $10 per stage set
    --Home club dancers I don't know: $2 or so depending on their outfit
    ---Home club, dancers (any) who play songs I like: $2~$8
    ----Home club, dancers (any) who play Metallica songs: $10
    -----Home club, ATF: 2 x $20 at any time of my choosing while I'm there to see her.

    -Club by work, dancers I know: $5
    --Club by work, dancers who play songs I like: $2~$8 or so
    ---Club by work, dancers who catch my interest (variable factors): $2~$5
    ----Club by work, dancers who play Metallica songs: $10

    Dances
    -$40 to $50 for the ATF since she's the only one I buy dances from and paid at the end of our time together.

    Bartenders
    -Home club: $1 per drink
    --Club by work: $2 per drink; $10 at the end of my visit.

    Waitresses
    -Home club:$2 per drink; up to $10 if I ask them to find the ATF.
    ---Club by work: $0 since I sit at the bar.

    The largest stage tip I've ever given is $100 to a former favorite for doing a certain Metallica song by request.

    The largest tip for a waitress was $20 on my birthday a few years back.

    Other tipping situations vary widely.
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    Stage dancers, home club -- I usually take two dancers to stage with me, each of us with $20; $100 if the floor gossip is pointing to a bad night for the dancer. I also keep $100s around for "the game," if we have time to play.

    Stage dancers, other clubs -- $20 minimum stage tipping per dancer for me and Nicolina. She makes up her mind very quickly, that girl, and none of the dancers can resist her for a second.

    Waitstaff, home club -- The home club waitstaff are magicians. They reserve tables, run drinks, text me to set up the night and go out to dinner with me and the dancers after a long day shift, or for breakfast after the night shift. So generally 50%, and it's incredibly well-earned.

    Bartenders, home club -- 15% and keep them in the shots and drink loop for the night.

    Floor managers/bouncers, home club -- Long story, but usually $20 per, for reasons I surely don't need to explain.

    VIP, other clubs -- This can get insane (I mean really insane), but a safe bet is $100 per dancer and 50% over outside tipping for waitstaff. But VIP is often difficult because the rules for clubs vary all over the map -- complex payout, splitting and tip-out rules. It's like a Bosnian cease-fire negotiation with the Floor Manager just to figure out how the cash gets distributed off a CC. I generally keep cash on hand to pay the dancers directly to avoid having to run a friggin' regression analysis just to make sure the dancers actually make any money.

    Bathroom attendant -- Will $1 really kill you?

    Hooters waitresses -- This is a bit of an art form. $100 for the girl running your table, usually the head wait. $40 for the poor girl stuck running bar who is off the floor and getting a lousy 1% tipout. If you cover food for everybody eating with you, usually +$40 per for those at your table.

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    What about turn down service?

    And can we forget the fluffer?

    Drug dealer?

    Undercover cops on the take?


    I say:

    $2
    $20
    $5
    $100

    in that order.

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    How do you tip the turndown service outside of tipping the housekeeper?

    The fluffer should be, like all, tipped on quality of service. $20 sounds good for doing a reasonable job.

    I rarely tip the drug dealer. Kinda like the dancer, I figure the payment is sufficient. Especially given the markup. How about some regulatory control here people?

    Same with the undercover cop. His/Her payment *IS* a tip, by definition. Gratuities over and above are unnecessary.

    -gen
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    Slut I like plays with my package during the hustle: $2 but no dances

    Dancer says, "That's the first time I ever came in a club." $10

    A favorite's birthday: age plus $1

    Dancer gets me off: $100 (word gets around, but no one collects)

    Bouncer: $5 per VIP room session

    Waitress: $1 per $4-5 drink

    Restaurant waitress: 20% if she looks good enough to be a dancer

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsWriter2
    A favorite's birthday: age plus $1
    Has this ever broke $20?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lunchbox
    Has this ever broke $20?
    Once or twice.

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    In view of the heated discussion from high-heel-lover on "Why are you in the club", I am bumping this thread up.

    Are GenWar’s Rules on Tipping listed above still valid today? They sound good to me, but what do I know… I am just a newbie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsteve View Post
    In view of the heated discussion from high-heel-lover on "Why are you in the club", I am bumping this thread up.

    Are GenWar’s Rules on Tipping listed above still valid today? They sound good to me, but what do I know… I am just a newbie.
    If they sound good to you I suggest you run with it, I'm guessing they are still valid (as are mine listed above). You may want to go over this THREAD too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GenWar View Post
    OK, last night, I was at the favorite club and the favorite bouncer was there. ... Last night, at the end of the night, I asked him for something and he expressed some frustration at me. I was taken aback and assumed, in extremely intoxicated logic, that somehow my tipping was insufficient. On the way out, I tried to apologize and slip him a Jackson. He declined and stated he was just having a bad night.
    When I was a bouncer I never took tips from customers.

    I was there to see that the rules of the club and the safety of the girls were enforced. A tip from customers changes the relationship between myself and the customer from one of an benevolent and polite [if possible] enforcer to one beholden for income.

    I didn't take tips from the dancers for the same reason. Even though their safety was a major consideration the protection of the club's license to do business and their property was first and foremost.

    I expected to be paid by management, and paid well because I was VERY good at what I did. I kept trouble to a bare minimum. What trouble there was that occurred was resolved quickly, quietly, and with no threat of police involvement and further problems. If they weren't willing to pay me what I was worth I didn't work there.

    Later on I would only work at places that allowed me to manage the bar and security staffs. Finally I only worked at places that hired crews of bouncers I trained, so I knew they knew what they were supposed to do. I never lacked for work. I gave up the business when it conflicted with my other, more lucrative, career. Now that I am retired from that career I am back in the business again with managing the floor and security for the private parties my friends and I throw several times a year.

    A bouncer that accepts tips may not be a bad fellow, but he isn't working for the club or the dancers... he is a free agent working for himself. He's for hire to the highest bidder in the club - ready, willing and able to turn his head the other way and that makes him of use to no one in the end.

    [Side note: I fully acknowledge that I couldn't work in today's strip-clubs where management doesn't want to pay anyone directly and desires to make everyone who works there dependent on either customers' or dancers' tipping.

    In such an environment I wouldn't be able to set my standards and would have to take tips to make it worthwhile, there by becoming precisely what I defined above. I don't understand why clubs wonder why the get raided and closed down so readily. It was specifically the bouncers job to maintain the decorum that keeps a club open. Refusing to pay the bouncers directly assures that isn't going to be the case, so what happens happens.

    Very dumb club owners.]
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    BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?

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    Strip Club
    Dancer
    So-so dance or worse (one and done) at any price = $0 tip
    Prepaid dance regardless of quality (almost always one and done) = $0 tip
    Dancer asks for a tip = $0 tip, maybe $5-10 if we did a lot of dances and they were exceptional, but definitely less than what she would get had she kept her mouth shut.

    Good dances (worth multiple purchases). Depends on the price of the dance.
    $10/dance: 2 songs $20+5 tip, 3 songs $30+10 tip, and just add $15 ($10+5 tip) for each song after three. I'm sure the gals would love me in Phoenix. Most done with one girl: 8
    $15/dance: 2 songs $30+0 tip, 3 songs $45+5 tip, approximately 10% of total after three. Most done with one girl: 2 (not that common a price for some reason).
    $20/dance: two songs $40+0, three songs $60+5, approximately 10% of total after three. Most done with one girl: 21

    $25/dance: two songs $50+0, three songs $75+5, bonus $5 every three songs. Most done with one girl: 5
    $30/dance: 2 to 4 songs, no tip. $10 bonus every fifth dance. Most done with one girl: zeeeero.

    $35+/dance: Not buying one.
    Lately its about the VIP.

    The VIP room fee is fixed so I know it going in. I know the dancer's cut going in. I know what I am going to pay [not tip] the dancer going in. I know what the dancer is going to do for that fee going in. I may tip the dancer on top of that but only if the service was extraordinarily beyond expectation.

    On the rare occasion I get lap dances I pay the going rate and tip the dancer based how much beyond a prefunctionary lap dance she goes and on how much she managed to push my buttons. That can be done in either sensual, sexual, or sensual AND sexual ways.

    Nothing more than an uninspired LD gets zero tip.

    A nice sensual dance gets 10-20% over the LD fee.

    A nice sexy dance gets 10-20% over the LD fee.

    The very best can get about 50% over the dance fee but that is VERY rare.

    BTW, I should point out that the more I have gotten involved with the biz directly again the less and less I desire to get lap dances OR VIPs. If it keeps up like this the only involvement I am going to have with strip-clubs is the business itself. [go figure]
    Fiat justitia, pereat mundus.


    BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?

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