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    I went to see a registered dietician last night because since the end of February I've been working with a personal trainer 2x a week and on the treadmill 5 days a week for 30 minutes and haven't seemed to be able to loose more that 2-3 pounds. I even went up in weight at one point. So, I got to thinking mybe my eating habits aren't as good as I think they are. We talk for an hour and half and she comes up with this formula.

    1. Divide your weight (pounds) by 2.2 to obtain your weight in kilograms. For example 180 lbs divided by 2.2 = 81.8 kg (round up to 82)

    2. Multiply your weight (in kg) by 30 to estimate your calorie needs to maintain your current weight. For example 82 kg x 30 = 2460 calories to maintain your current weight.

    3. Subtract 500 calories from your maintenance calories to obtain the calories you need to loose weight. For example 2460 - 500 calories = 1960 calories (round up to 2000)

    Then you use this chart, which is based on the food pyramid to calculate your daily needs

    daily calories 1200 1500 1800 2000 2500 3000

    grains (starches) 4 5 7 9 11 14
    fruits & Vegies 4 4 5 5 7 8
    dairy products 3 3 3 3 3 3
    Bean/meat products 4 4 6 6 8 9
    fats & sweets 2 4 4 5 6 8

    Sorry if this comes out all cockeyed, I don't know how to do a table in this.

    She also gave me color coded index cards and two envelopes that that cover all five groups with acceptable foods listed on each one along with portion size. Every item on each card is x number of calories. For example each item on my bean/meat products card equals 75 calories and I'm allowed 4 servings. Each time I have an item on one of my cards I take one card from one envelope and put it in the other envelope. At the end of the day I should have moved all my cards from my start envelope to my finished envelope.

    I'm really hoping this works for me. I'm getting very discouraged which is making me very cranky and bitchy. I really thought that by now I'd be much closer to getting the body I want. I 'm trying to stay realalistic, I know I'll never have the body I had when I was in my 20s, that's just not possible. But what I do want, is to have a great body for someone my age. I want that "wow, she's hot for xyz years old" and for my clothes not just to fit me but to fit me very well.

    Any other advise or suggestions are welcomed. And moral support is tops!

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    Default Re: Diet Blues

    how does physicial activity level affect the chart?

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    Default Re: Diet Blues

    Honestly I think there is a little too much on the "grains/starches" and the "fats/sweets" however everything else looks pretty good. I think I will try this method for awhile. I will fall in the 1500 cal. range. Thanks for the info!
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    Default Re: Diet Blues

    it doesn't specify what kinds of starches, or fats

    I mean, if you are eating yams, whole grains, nuts, etc....it's obviously a lot better than a jelly donut

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    jelly donuts are bad???? *cries*

    anywho, this kind of reminds me of the weight watchers system *though i've never tried it* i remember when my mom did it she had cards that she had to keep track of and such. good luck!
    I believe you Dottie and you have my support

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    I've done WW too. That's good because it figures how much you can eat based on your weight, and it tells you how to get the most out of your allotted "points" and how to distribute them so youg et the proper nutrition. It jsut kinda of happens naturally when you pick the right foods because they satisfy you longer.

    sorry about your beloved jelly donuts....do they count as a fruit, at least?

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    Sure, I'll count them as fruit Thank god I don't like donuts all that much, now if you start telling me that CHOCOLATE is bad, then I'm really goona cry

    WW always seemed interesting to me, though I'm sure I wouldn't get a warm welcome if I went, as I am small to begin with..*just wanna lose that extra 10 lbs!*
    I believe you Dottie and you have my support

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    yeah, WW isn't good unless you are overweight by 10%of your ideal weight or more. Like they won't even take you. But it works. I lost 40 lbs on it way back in 2001.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily
    yeah, WW isn't good unless you are overweight by 10%of your ideal weight or more. Like they won't even take you. But it works. I lost 40 lbs on it way back in 2001.

    I was gunna say, I would only be able to take in 1200 calories to lose weight, and that seems like I'd be eating next to nothing!!!! (I weigh 125lbs, I'm not really looking to lose weight now that I think about it, I'm just trying to rid my body of the pudginess I have and tone up )

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    Like Emily said (nice avatar boobs by the way!!), if you're active, you can eat a little more than the dieticians calculations. For me, dancing fulltime, plus going to the gym, I'm still losing a lot of weight eating 1600-1700 calories a day, and I weigh less than 130llbs.

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    This is like the richard simons diet,he had some cards with his plan.The only thing I don't like about this is the dairy,fruit,fat,portions.A dietician uses the FDA standards,like the food pyramid,that is where they get the portions from.Try it for a while & see how it works.Good luck-take some befor pics.

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    The diet you mention here southbabe would only leave me with a mere 960 cals a day. I don't think that would be a healthy amount for me. I just want to shed a couple of vanity pounds so my clothing will fit nicer. I weigh 106 now and I am 63 inches tall. I was at 110 and my clothing would barely fit. Weight Watcher's point equals appx. 70 calories. I have 20 points daily plus exercise to lose and 26-28 points daily plus exercise to maintain.

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    As far as I know it's not WW based. She's a RD with a Masters. She likes my exercise plan and wants me to keep it up. My grains (starches) list at 80 each includes: 1 slice bread, 1/2 bagel, 1/2 pita, 1/2 english muffin, 1/2 hamburger or hot dog bun, cereal cooked 1/2 cup, cereal cold 2/4 cup, rice cooked 1/2 cup, pasta cooked 1/2 cup, roll 1 small, crackers, saltines type 6, crackers graham 3 squares, pretxels 3/4 oz, popcorn not fat 3 cups, corn /2 cup, peas 1/2 cip potato 1/2 cup, rice cakes 2. I don't think I'm restricted to just what's on my cards as long as I keep within the guidelines. I was also told to think brown when it comes to the grains, whole wheat, multi grain etc, rather than white flour. Also to pay close attention to the food lables, look at the calories, sugers, fiber, fat ect. to aid in the food choices. Fat and Sweets 50 calories each consists of: oil 1T, margarine or butter 1t, salad dressing reuglar 1T, salad dressing rduced fat 2T, Mayo regular 1t, mayo reduced fat 1T, bacon 1 slice, half & half cream 2T, cour cream rudeced 3T, cream cheese regular 1T, cream cheese reduced 2T. I see that there's really no sweets mentioned which is fine by me I don't have mcuh of a sweet tooth. If I really feel like I need chololate, I'll make chololate milk with lowfat milk or hot choco. I'll see if I can find a recent picture to post.

    Greenidlady1 please don't loose any weight, you sound pefect petite to me I'm 5'7" and at the higher end of the 150s right now and hate it! My jelly belly is the worse! I'd love to loose 15 to 20 lbs. I think for my age and height, and if I tone up nicely, I'll be happy.

    Day 2 is under way!

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    greenidlady1, you're absolutely correct. Adult women should *never* go below 1100 calories a day--it's unhealthy, and very hard to get the proper nutrition with that few calories. Much better to up the excersize levels.

    Southbabe: have you tried spiking your calories? This works for a LOT of people stuck in a loss rut, and WW has even started doing this with clients who had dififculty losing weight. THe idea is that your body gets used to processing the same amount of calories, and so begins doing so too efficiently and not shedding the pounds. By changing it up, you keep your body guessing and your metabolism high (this is also true of excersizing, btw). This *definitely* made a difference for myself and two of my friends. Basically, it goes like this: if your total calorie count is supposed to be around 1300/day, times that by 7. That gives you your total calories for the week. Now, make a 7 day chart. In the middle days (whatever those are for you--you can adjust this to fit your lifestyle), put one calorie count 300-500 calories higher than your average, and the very next day, 300-500 calories lower. (I did this on Saturday and Sunday, and Sunday wasn't hard at all because I'd had SO much on Saturday). Go out from each of these days and do smaller spikes and dips, and two days in a row of the same calorie count. Try not to go below 1100 calories per day, but if you have to go to 1000 for ONLY one day a week, that's fine. Now, use your cards to help! And, graze, graze, graze. Try to avoid going more than 2-3 hours without food (it can be some carrots, a handful of almonds, etc...just something to keep your body from thinking it's not being fed and storing fat).

    Also, if you are really eating well, excersizing, etc. and still not losing weight, you may want to consider getting your thyroid checked. That was my major problem, and once I got that corrected and the diet thing above started, pounds just melted.

    Good luck, and keep us updated!

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    Sounds like great advise. I'll check it out and let you know how it goes.

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    greenidlady...maybe the reason that it's saying that you would need an unsafe number of calories to lose weight is because you shouldn't be dieting at 5'3" and 106

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    ^^ agreed
    I believe you Dottie and you have my support

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    YAY! I loss 3lbs!!! Exactly one week since I met with the dietician and started the plan! I was worried about making it through the weekend but I did it and I didn't feel like I was missing out on anything! I can do this!

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    SouthStBabe...do you mind typing out what is on each of the cards and the portion size? I'm 5'3" and 113 and I'm looking to drop about 8lbs. This sounds perfect for me since I have a hard time counting calories and such. The cards seem like a great idea!

    And congrats on your weight loss! Thats Fantastic!!!

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    Even though you sound perfect to me, no problem. PM me. Thanks for the support.

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