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    So I've been back to work 4 nights since I got my vacation. Two of our DJs have completely different styles of doing it -- one says nothing more than the minimum, i.e. "Here's another girl, her name is X" and "Here's her second song," etc. The other one talks like crazy... Not in an annoying DJ voice, but a nice normal voice, and he says stuff like, "That was X's set, and she would love to spend some time in the VIP room with you," and "Remember to take care of your lady on stage, so she'll take care of you." I've worked 2 nights since I've been back with the talker DJ and had slightly better than average nights, and 2 nights with the quiet DJ and it was like pulling teeth to get the guys to spend any money. Do you think there could be a correlation, or is it just coincidence? I was thinking about planning my shifts based on when the talker DJ is there.. hehe.

    Anyone have any thoughts on this?

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    I think it can help for sure....guys don't always know/consider their options.

    But on the other hand, I make more money when I n ever go on stage at all....so I guess I prefer he say that about other girls and pretend like I'm not even there.

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    The DJ has a BIG part in this. The DJ pumps the crowd up. We fired our DJ a few months ago and after he left it was very difficult to get anyone to tip. Since we had no DJ our manager DJ'd for about a month and I wanted to shoot myself everytime I went on stage. Now we have a new DJ and everything (tipping wise) is back to normal. Try to talk to the manager about the DJ or work on night that the 'talker' is working.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lolagetz
    Not in an annoying DJ voice, but a nice normal voice, and he says stuff like, "That was X's set, and she would love to spend some time in the VIP room with you," and "Remember to take care of your lady on stage, so she'll take care of you."
    That's how the DJ is at my club. He actually has a background in sales and so he USES it! Trust me, there is a difference in everyones earnings when he works. He knows how to pump the crowd, and get them into a spending mood. He constantly reminds them that we are ladies that work on tips, so either tip at the stage or leave your seat so some good paying customer can do it.

    He's actually really good at his job. He gives all the girls great intros, not just "ok and this is _____ coming to the stage" I mean he has like a paragraph that he says for each and every girl. He's working for his tips just like we are...if I do good he gets tipped handsomely.

    But when the other DJ's who'd rather kick it and flirt w/ the dancers are working, WE ALL make less money. They give crappy intros, mess up some girls music, play the songs to long..etc. It sucks..and girls rarely get VIP/champagne when the crappy DJ's work.







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    I dunno - a good DJ can make my stage show a lot more fun for ME (but I suspect that the stuff I find really fun and amusing would annoy the hell out of most the girls here), but I've said before that I don't think the DJ has ever made me money unless he (or she) is (a) giving it to me or (b) recommending that other people give it to me (like directly - like Hey, Bob, you should get a dance with Jenny, not one of you guys out there should consider a lapdance). I've worked in clubs in which the the "DJ" is the bartender - the girls brought in CD's, lined up their own music and the bartender hit play, clubs in which the "DJ" was a bouncer who sat in the booth and pressed play (that way, at least your CDs lasted longer than 2 nights) and clubs that had DJs who would full out play with you on stage (like figuratively from the DJ booth, in a wholly appropriate fashion). I honestly don't think it affects my money, but as I said, it can definitely affect my night in more intangible ways.
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    I don't go to the club for the DJ, but I will avoid clubs because of a DJ.

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    I love the DJs that talk you up and I like when they play romantic or sexy music not mysigynistic tripe like "Rape Me" or "Smack my Bitch Up". I like Djs that like different genres of music and bring the mood of the room up with different hot tracks that rock, rap, and techno guys like.

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    I think the right DJ can do wonders. Of course, what the DJ says/does isnt going to give you 100% of what you earn on stage... but if they say the right things, work the right lights, play the right songs... it's a beautiful compilation set up for YOU. I know I tried to make things perfect on stage for each girl, when I was a DJ. Didnt say too much, but did way more than the minimal requirement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lunchbox
    I don't go to the club for the DJ, but I will avoid clubs because of a DJ.
    I totally agree. When I was first checking out clubs in the area, I went to a certain club on two different nights; once on a Friday, once on a Wednesday (supposedly "Ladies' Night"). The DJ on Friday was great! Playing excellent stuff, definitely had a good attitude. I didn't even think about it too much then (though I did compliment him), and can't even recall anything specific that he said, but he for sure had an effect on the entire vibe. I walked away with a positive impression of the club & remembered everyone as being quite friendly.

    THEN, oh dear God, the Wednesday. This guy had some sort of inexplicable chip on his shoulder, and seemed to have a problem with one of the dancers in particular. I was INSTANTLY turned off of the whole club, and so was my sweetie, but we stayed since I wanted to check it out a bit more & maybe get a few more dances. The DJ kept making snotty remarks to the dancer I mentioned, let's call her 'Jewel', the kinds of remarks that no one else could understand but were obviously making her really uncomfortable. He'd let out a low "Moo . . ." over the music (Jewel was not even CLOSE to being fat), then evey once in a while he'd say what was evidently his favorite line, "Meanwhile, back at the farm . . ." Granted it was a much slower night, so they were all a little down - if the dancers aren't making money, neither is he - and maybe this was just his way of amusing himself, but still. I immediately crossed this off the list of clubs to audition at.

    The piece de resistance was towards the end of the night (well, towards the end of our night there, at any rate), when the DJ loudly announced "Women: Can't live with 'em, can't shoot 'em." What. The. Fuck?!? I realize that it's not his job to make female customers feel comfortable, as it's still ultimately a man's world (if a fantasy-based one) in the club, but what about the dancers? You have to be thick skinned enough to do this without deliberate, belligerent badgering like this.

    Sorry this turned into a bit of a rant, but that one guy still sticks in my craw. I used to have a hard time with the very idea of strip clubs, and if I had experienced this the first time I went to a club, it would have confirmed all my prejudices and stereotypes.
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    Default Re: Can the DJ make a difference?

    Absolutely, positively YES!! I can dance to anything, but I really can't tap into my sexual energy unless I'm dancing to the music that makes me feel alive. Our Monday night DJ is horrible; I mean, he's a great guy, but he's a raver and only plays techno music-which is not very conducive to the atmosphere of a strip club. The DJ who works the rest of the week is OK, occasionally he'll play songs from my CD, but he isn't really anything to write home about either. Neither really promote the girls at all, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugartaste
    ...I really can't tap into my sexual energy unless I'm dancing to the music that makes me feel alive. Our Monday night DJ is horrible...only plays techno music-which is not very conducive to the atmosphere of a strip club.
    This is the key--playing music which taps into the sexual energy of the dancer onstage. That and making damned sure the crowd is aware of this effect.

    Believe it or not, there is techno out there which can do this--but a little goes a long way, and it's got to be the right kind.

    As far as guys tipping--the best thing to do if they aren't is to send a dancer up there with a dollar, and make a big fuss over her tipping the one onstage. Then say "Don't be shy, guys, go on up there with a dollar of your own..."

    Or if you are lucky, one guy will come up there, and you say to the rest "Now here's a gentleman who knows how to treat a lady...", followed by the same 'shy' remark.

    This will work even in the worst clubs, well over 50% of the time. Every dollar I've given to a dancer and sent up there to tip has come back to me by the end of the night, usually having multiplied itself in the process.

    Ideally, every dancer will have something unique you can say about her--and the more genuine the praise, the more powerful the effect--on both her confidence level, and the reaction of the customers to your sincerity--as opposed to the lame canned bullshit most DJs in this area spew out. It's much more difficult to pull this off in the huge clubs with 70-100 dancers, though.

    Bad DJs, who seem to abound in my area, are actually detrimental to the atmosphere of a club--much like the male SW members here who create female identities to 'prove' a point, and otherwise dispense more bullshit than even the worst DJs out there--and enough hot gas to solve the energy crisis.
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    Our dj's make a HUGE difference, however, I am unsure whether it's directly or indirectly. For instance.... one of our dj's is awesome, he has great catchphrases, and will often say (if guys aren't tipping) things like "if that lady is fully clothed, you aren't doing your jobs". Now, I'm not sure whether it actually makes the guys tip more, or if it just makes us feel better that he's telling them they need to tip us, but we love him for it.

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    Our club does not have a DJ, just a jukebox with a really sad selection of music and an "announcer" who calls us to the stage. Compared to other clubs with DJs, the atmosphere at ours is a lot slower. I WISH we had a DJ. I would even pay an extra $20 a night just so I could have some good music to dance to and a little encouragement for the crowd. But I can see how it would piss me off if the DJ had an attitude or was insulting to the dancers and we still had to pay him.

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    I totally agree with everyone. A good d.j. helps everyone make money and know that his/her money comes from the success of the dancers. A d.j. helps direct the flow of the evening, but the dancers are the reason a club has customers.
    It kills me to hear rude, stupid, or just plain lazy d.js. I'm a good d.j., with an awesome selection of music. I know how to sell and have an excellent speaking voice. Sadly, none of the clubs in the area will hire a girl - even when dancers and waitresses at the clubs at the manager to hire me. (Sigh, just frustrated... but not giving up!)

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    There is a strange sexism in action when it comes to female DJs--surprisingly enough, often originating from the dancers as well.

    I have always loved the idea of a female DJ, and when Katrina--a dancer at my last club--told me she had 15 years DJ experience in radio, I put her on the mike right away to see how she'd do. The manager was impressed enough to give her one night a week (all she wanted).

    But several of the dancers were very skeptical, and told me they didn't like the idea of a female SCDJ. I think it's just that they aren't used to it--I don't know.

    Keep trying, don't give up yet! Look at it the same way you'd look at a slow night when all the customers are sitting there not tipping or getting dances--you never know when Mr. Money's going to walk in the door. If you are the one still smiling and positive, you'll be the one to get it.

    And you can keep dancing until the right opportunity comes along--maybe some night when one of these idiot DJs is too drunk or whacked on drugs to do his job, and they need someone right away. You'll be right there, ready to go...
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    ^ Well, I never understood...men go to the club for women...so what better way to get the crowd going than by hearing a beautiful, yet sultry, voice over the mic?

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    ^^Yes they make a difference, and DJ Christopher is the bomb!! (Hi DJ Chris...) mwah!!

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    Well, hello there, ma'am. I didn't wanna spill the beans or anything. See you tomorrow?
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    Yup. Don't worry about the beans (tee hee).

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    Hell ya the DJ makes a difference. A shitty DJ can cost you hundreds a night. I would totally schedule around the good DJ.

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    Helped get a "female" started and she does great. Girls complain about her voice and such but I think the real reason is after dancing for 8+ years she knows the drill and doesn't take any shit. Female excuses just don't seem to work on a straight married female DJ!!??!
    The other thing I noticed is she can dog any guy in the place being an asshole and they can't really pull their macho commacho crap, let's just face it, no guy can look good in a SC verbally sparring with a woman (But yet they still try!!?!) Don't claim to know it all but from my experience the older yuppie/business money crowd doesn't seem to like talking as much
    they are gonna spend their money,get their diddles & skittles regardless, real (imagine that)
    business like. The younger and "blue collar" crowds seem to be where a good DJ talking,whooping it up, and getting them involved makes the most difference. And finally there is the non-english speaking crowd which it goes without saying, saying things doesn't seem to matter(Unless you take the time to learn phrases like "la bonita chica te gusta bailar para tus hombres,perro ella encantas sus propinos" or my personal favorite "Amigos, yo propino sus madre cuando voy al concuso de burros, propino mis bonita chicas por favor!!") (Roughly translated "hey guys I tip your mom at the donkey show so please take care of the pretty girls!!) This either gets a laugh or automatic gunfire so all the young jedi DJ's out there take note: read the crowd!!

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    "Amigos, yo propino sus madre cuando voy al concuso de burros, propino mis bonita chicas por favor!!"

    Nice. I am no young Jedi by any means, but I promise to have this phrase memorized by this weekend.
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    Never been to the city of "bro luv" but if its anything like out west bring your shiny Dj Bullet proof shirt with the top two buttons undone just to give em' a chance!! Lol. No means disrespect with the young jedi line (mad props to whichever one of you came up with, I love it!!). The other languages I learned in the club biz are drunkeneez and druganeez so you say things like "SHibA sHAba DooBa DaaBa on the Skitchee SKatcha" which the fucked up people in the crowd will get and laugh (While most importantly the sober people will realize they need to start partying to catch up).

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    Ha, when the friends of the guys who killed my buddy came in the next night and were laughing about it and trying to stare me down (and losing) I could have used that phrase--too late now.

    I was going to play "Whatta You Know" and send it out to "...the puto that killed my friend and was going to get fucked up the ass til he learned to like it, then get fried" (they caught him), but couldn't remember the spelling or pronunciation of "puto". Had the CD in, ready to go, and called my Cuban friend in San Diego to find out from the dressing room, but fortunately for me he wasn't there--I
    didn't want to do it the wrong way. I don't have a gun, and would have lost, I think. Fuck it...

    Did use French on a girl a few times--"Tu es la plus belle fleur dans le jardin" and "Tu es belle comme un ange", but the guys in the blue-collar crowd had no idea what I was saying (though the woman did and liked it) so I stopped.
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