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    If you're on myspace, you've probably seen the bulletins like "See Who's Looking At Your Page" a ton of times. My question is, has this ever worked for anyone?

    I have also heard that trying to get the "code" that allows you to do this can let hackers into your system.
    I'm just trying to get an idea of the validity of all this and none of my myspace friends have any clue. Has anyone here really seen who has looked at their page? How far back (date-wise) could you see who had looked.

    I hope you can't see who looks at your page. I look at my guy's ex-girlfriend a lot and would feel like a pretty big dork if she could see that I check out her page so much and that I'm so nosey about her.
    Anyone have any input about this??

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    There is code that shows you what source a click on your site came from, and how often your site was clicked from that source. I've had that service on another non-myspace page. I don't like the website that is advertising 'see who is looking at your page' because of the way thier site asks for your email info before they say anything about how their program works. Seems shady to me.

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    No I don't think it works or if it does it does cause some problems. It's illegal and apparently the code thing sends everyone on your friends list a message saying you've added them as "favorites" Check out the myspace forums for more info, it's where I read about it. Get to them by clicking forum in the top bar thingy (-:

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    Ive used it... and it never worked for me. I tried several but I just deleted it. There was a bulletin on my thing a day or so ago and it said that giving out certain info to those sites can allow hackers into your computer and so on. Dont know if its true though.
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    I've used the code before and it does show you exactly who is visiting your page and where they find your page at as well.

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    you can still search for and view somebody's page if you're logged out. *hint hint*

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    yah i've used two codes from two different sites. Neither one that's ever been outted on myspace . The ones that are in bulletins i'd be weary of

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    ^well shit! give us some codes girl!

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    I just found this online:

    How to see who views your Myspace profile
    You Can't Currently, there is no way to see who has viewed your Myspace profile. In the past you could do it because Myspace allowed JavaScript, but Myspace have since disabled the Java option.. So, until Myspace allows java, until someone can find away around the Java restriction, or comes up with a different way to do it, you wont be able to see who is viewing your Myspace profile. If you are some kind of eL33t Myspace hacker and know how to get around this please post the secret!

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    trust me there are ways.

    there is one site alone that tracks people. it shows their icon photo, when they logged onto your site, how they got there ..what they looked at and how many times.

    and n o i wont' share lol.

    that takes all the fun out of seeing who all stalks me

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    hey a customer told me he has a pic of me on his myspace thing and he said i gotta be a member to see it so i hurried up and became a member and i have not been able to see his page. he said search 'male' i dont get myspace
    anyway...im scared of anything that has anything to do with hackers my pc screwed enough..

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    I had my first page hacked down, and KINDLY left a message. Turned it in...Nothing. WAs told to get a new name and password go from there and change out pass every few days or a week. I had a huge animal page against abuse, many people did not like what i had there...so it was hacked!

    Then i hit MySpace again. New page, music blah blah...a person comes along and says he knows so much of my personal info it's not funny. I even signed up with a fake name and a hotmail addy.....but he gave me a major clue one day...not even anyone on my friends list has it or my daughter.

    I said enough. So i took it down. Screw that person. And his profile was easy to read..kinda in your face thing.

    Also i heard once you let a person become your friend, you are more at risk. Not sure if this is true...but i was hacked big time. He (as his profile showed) left me a message that read, "female Bitch in heat" all because of an animal group....get a damn life.

    I actually was networking, and had a few people in my area do a protest with me at a circus!!!! (my friends) Sucks, you can't do anything anymore. I know this is true, my ex could tell me what kind of computer a person was running and get their home address as well...Fucking scary!!!!! Mainly he was able to do this to anyone who had their own site....VERY do-able...he is a software engineer...and pretty deep with his shit. But he is not a hacker..i am not saying that. It's info. you can just get with searching the right areas of a persons info.

    Pamela

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    There are a few fundamentals to myspace.

    One is it's just a web page. It's a point-to-point connection between you and the myspace.com servers.

    Sure there are ways for you to see into that connection and whatnot, but it's no different in reality than stripperweb.com. People only know you from the information you give out there. Sure people can see your myspace page and try to listen to connections to your page but even then it is not an exact science because people don't have to LOG IN to myspace to get the majority of it.

    Every webserver has logs, and I know for a fact myspace logs work in two levels. They either display the username per myspace page or "NotRegistered" which could also mean "Not logged in"

    However "Hacking" can happen through myspace one of three ways. Note: Only 2 of which are exact sciences. Since it is incredibly difficult for most people to actually go to the website and see if other people connecting to the site are you or not.

    1. They hack the myspace server to get at the logs to know who looked at the site and what I.P. address they had. This technology is there and this is capable, it's the same way pryce is able to find out how people are logged in with different user names.

    2. A hacker can exploit a known deficiency in the myspace servers security and embed something that talks back to the hacker or just does something malicious to anyone visiting the page. This is not an exact science and normally the information overload is too much for the unassuming hacker. This is why your precious myspace system goes down so much, because normally something is discovered and a protective patch is needed to be applied.

    3. Now this is how people find out who you are:

    Now if you think of the internet like a neighborhood, and internet traffic like mail, then you'll realize that every computer has to have a unique address in the neighborhood so that traffic knows which house to go to. If your connection is the type where that address changes every time you connect, than this hacking methode is next to worthless (I.e. a modem gets a new i.p. (internet) address everytime you dial up) If It's a static address then this can be helpful.

    I also know that myspace rotates their logs frequently and the logs are only in a readable format for about 24 hours so their hit counters can process the profile hits. So when someone hacks it and sees something like USER: PAMELA I.P. X.X.X.X and it's the same day multiple days in a row then the hacker can assume you're on a static connection. From that point, he can search information about you, watch where you go etc etc etc, a lot of work really and doesn't really YEILD a lot of information. Now if you're crazy and don't have a firewall he can get into your computer where normally he can read things about you. REAL HACKERS don't waste their time with myspace people. However some of the best hackers got their start their because the average user is not capable of detecting even the worsly botched attempts at hacking their system.

    I mean seriously people I've seen some myspace pages that where just a debachle, hell *I* would assume it was the page and not someone connecting to my computer through the same port the music plays through and that's why my music isn't playing.


    Note that your I.P. is the most important thing. Nothing you are going to do is going to really stop this. Hackers are good. But unfortunatly nothing brings them out like the breeding ground for weirdos that is myspace (NOT A BAD THING ALL THE TIME).

    I understand this is a lot to chew on but let me put some myths to bed:

    Any application as tiger's milk addressed will only work for a short while if at all. It normally takes advantage of an exploit that's getting fixed. Think about it...15 million viewers a day, just as many people trying to fix the holes as there are people trying to break em.

    All of these things aren't supposed to happen by design. Until myspace requires a log in to see a page than seeing "Who went to my myspace page" will be next to useless. I mean even if you could look, it'd be all clicks and whistles and/or numbers. AT BEST you may be able to see the people who signed into the site before viewing your pages but myspace is so saturated that I garauntee you the server power to provide that information just isn't there and would probably be the first feature they added if they wanted to start selling "premium memberships"

    Myspace is a lot of things. But one thing it is above all else is a web page. That means that "Hacking" has to be done certain ways because it's not like all your viewers are in a room looking at each other. You hit the profile, myspace sends it to you, you get it, myspace closes the connection till you look somewhere else.

    If this confuses anyone just read the last paragraph, otherwise pm me, I'll help.

    A note to you computer junkies:

    Don't correct this, I know I generalized a lot, don't send me pm's telling me I am wrong, I'm not talking on a computer forum, I'm not saying tools don't exist, I'm not saying my information is end-all. I'm just trying to explain what the initial poster is really asking and what she is really asking for and why it's not readily available.
    People are not ruled by their memories.

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    I use webtrends to track cookies. Basically, as described below, it may be possible to place your photos on another server and when they access your picture, it would show the referring IP address. Maybe it is more sophisticated but among the nerds, this is what they say from one of their forums.

    __________________________________________________ _______________

    Today I was asked if it is possible to track who is looking at your Myspace profile. The short answer is yes, but you can�t get very specific information. Personally I�ve used Myspace enough to be able to answer this question. I�m going to answer this question in a Myspace context, but the ideas apply elsewhere too.

    Looking at my stats here at KnowingArt.com, this seems to be a new, hot topic. It seems that Myspace users are now more sophisticated�they are confronting classic problems for the first time. I�ve never made a Myspace trackers here specifically, yet there are many people coming here looking for that information. This tells me a few things:

    There�s a demand for social networking statistical tracking.
    There probably isn�t a free Myspace tracker available yet.
    Users aren�t finding the tools/information they need at Myspace.
    The �business� of social networking is evolving.
    If you are a programmer that already has a Myspace tracking system, let me know, I might post your link. There are a number of generic third-party stats trackers out there that will show you where your traffic is coming from, but I�m pretty sure that Myspace censors URL�s that look too �cgi� (Common Gateway Interface) for instance, �yoursite.com/track?referrer=whoever� would be censored, and Myspace probably censors javascript too, so a would-be Myspace tracker programmer would need to be creative.

    For very basic Myspace stats you can hotlink an image on your domain�s server from your Myspace profile, then just check your server stats for that image to see which Myspace pages are loading your image.

    For example, you�re an artist and you just photographed a lovely new drawing. You upload that drawing to your server (in my case: knowingart.com) and you paste the new drawing as a comment into your friends� profiles. If you have 20 friends your drawing will be loading from your server each time anyone visits any of your 20 friends, until your drawing falls off the comments list(s). Some people don�t get many comments so your drawing could be up for months. If each of your 20 friends averages 200 views/day, your drawing will get hit about 4000 times/day. Some of those 4000 hits might be the same person reloading the page, so the stats are estimates. Also, you can�t assume that all 4000 people actually looked at your drawing, but at least they had an opportunity to see it. Now on your server you can look at your stats (any generic logfile analyzer) and you can see the links of the profiles that are loading your page, probably sorted by # of hits. Unless you are coding your own stats, the link won�t say �300 hits from Joe, 250 hits from Jane� but if you click the links (assuming that you are logged into Myspace) you can mentally match the person with the URL. This is not to say that you know who looked at your drawing�this only tells you the profile page where your drawing was loaded from your server.

    Because Myspace censors HTML codes (a good reason not to use it) you�ll need to get fancy if you want to take your tracking a step further: code a script that looks like an image to Myspace, but actually it�s a PHP script with a .jpg extension, for example: knowingart.com/whatever.jpg could be a PHP script that outputs a .jpg image, but before the script displays the image you can capture some useful server environment info. Before I gave up on Myspace I was planning to do something like this for an art gallery so that I could get a variety of stats on each drawing and then rank them according to popularity. If you are selling products on Myspace (this is against the TOS, but for some reason people do it anyway) you could get individual stats for each product: hits/day, CTR, referrers� I would not recommend selling products on Myspace�you�ll realize how much time you wasted when your account is suspended for violating the TOS. Myspace is selling its own ads, they don�t need unnecessary competition.

    As far as translating referrer info to a Myspace username, it�s not possible�you would probably need access to private cookie information, and even it were technically possible for a third-party, it�s none of your business (and possibly unlawful to be attempting such a thing in the first place). On the other hand, advertisers that are working with Myspace directly will have access to specific user-profiling metrics, like �show me CTR this week for single Christian females in Texas.� The most disturbing part of this is that Myspace can show different advertisements to different people looking at the same page, so you have no idea what is really being advertised in your name, on your profile. If you search the old posts over at PaidContent.org, there�s a sound clip of Rupert Murdoch hinting at the profit expectations behind Myspace user-profiling.

    Many of the Myspace pages have URL�s that use numerical ID #�s, so it�s going to be very difficult to get a nice looking, coherent list of referrers. A referrer link from a comment is going to look different from a link on a friend grid page, even if both links are from the same profile. Does Myspace care? Don�t count on it. If you tried to code a Myspace script that would fetch an ID# to convert it to a username, your IP would probably be blocked. One time I was curiously looking around, studying the structure of the URL�s�I was looking at the profiles for ID #1 and ID #0. I thought I had entered the Matrix. Myspace user ID #0 was a young guy, typical profile, nothing especially unusual, but I got the impression that he was responsible for Myspace security�shortly thereafter my account was temporarily deactivated. Coincidence?

    In conclusion, I wouldn�t bother coding anything Myspace-specific, but a more generic and �discreet� image stats tracking tool might be more generally useful in situations where cgi code is censored or possibly eyed with suspicion.

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    So, does me having 2 active firewalls running on my computer keep me from being hacked?

    I haven't noticed any problems...

    I stay away from myspace. I've been having the hardest problems logging on...and then once I get on, I can't figure out how to set up the damn page. Screw it...I have a 3 1/2 year old to take care of...and if I can't get it done quickly, I won't bother at all. heh

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    I'm hearing way too many scary things about myspace lately. And I'm not even on it that much, so I just put up my accouunt for cancellation. I'm trying to be more private lately.
    It also gives my PC tons of spyware and slows it down.

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    I just don't think the internet is a private place to be I for one know of the risks but I have decided thats okay because I enjoy this .

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