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    Hello ladies,
    I'm a college student in the Boston area who's considering stripping to help me cover my bills...it would beat my 10.00 per hour job, I think...I work 2 entire weekend days just to help support myself...and that's hurting me academically.
    There are the stereotypes that "smart girls don't strip"...stuff like that. I was talking with my boyfriend about stripping, and said "well, I could probably make a lot as a stripper" and he said "you're too smart to be a stripper!" But the thing is, stripping could really help me financially. But at the same time, i'm worried that i'll be surrounded by girls who are very unlike me... but if i'd strip at a somewhat classy club such as Centerfolds Bosotn, I figure it wouldn't be that bad... Plus, based on what I've read on this board, there are some pretty smart cookie ladies who do strip and who do it while pursuing school or whatever... So maybe I wouldn't feel that out of place...
    I've never stripped before, but visited the Foxy Lady...and read a ton about it... i'm pretty confident about my body, but i'm not the big-boobed type...more of the athletic slim body type, A cup boobs... I'm just a little nervous about guys who might be a-holes...or cattiness of girls...but then again, I have a sorta thick skin, but that doesn't mean that snarkiness and nastiness from others wouldn't affect me to some degree...
    Has anyone here felt like they were sort of "out of place" with stripping because they felt like they were in school and could stick it out with loans and such but still were tempted by the money? Did that feeling eventually go away? Any encouragement or stories you could share, that would be great! thanks!

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    Default Re: too "brainy" to strip?...and other issues

    what's smarter? working for peanuts?

    There's this notion one strips because she has to. I guess it's true for some, but I don't understand why it has to be. it's a great job if you can deal with the downsides of it.

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    I forget who it is that always says it takes a very smart girl to play dumb...

    But basically, um, no, you won't be out of place if you're in school, smart, or otherwise a normal person. You might be out of place if you hate your body, hate men, or think sexuality is dirty and bad...



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    I had a guy hound me last week, telling me that I was too smart to be stripping. Then I turned it around on him and told him that with the money I made, with the amount of work I do in the little time I do it, I think I was pretty damn smart. He shut up and gave me money for my conversation. He said I earned his respect instantly.

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    About half the women I've worked with in strip clubs are in college, or are college graduates. I don't think you'll feel out of place, unless you go to work with the attitude that you think you're smarter than everyone else or too good to be there. In that case, the other girls probably will talk smack about you, and with good reason.

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    Some of the smartest women I know are/were strippers. Just don't act smart on the job. Despite what mens say here about how much they're attracted to smart women, most do not go to a strip club for intellectual stimulation. Don't talk about the books you're reading, don't talk about your opinions, (unless they're utter platitudes) and don't use words like platitude. Try to stick to words that have two syllables or less. Also, don't tell them what you're really studying or where you're studying. Say you're studying floral design or becoming a dental hygeinist.

    As a wise dancer once said, it makes her job a lot easier to be perceived as dumb. Do a lot of reading, especially the "Hustle Hut" section and you can learn a lot.

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    thanks ladies...I love your observations...thanks for being willing to help me out! : - ) i really do appreciate it (off on a side note: I was just talking to my academic adviser today...she's a female...I just came to realize how much of a snarky bitch she really is...why did I stick with her as my advisor all these years..welll mainly because all she really does is sign certain forms...I don't use her too often for advice...but she's such a short-tempered bitch...not very friendly...it makes me very grateful to know that there are some warm women out there that are actually nice...It helps brighten my day! so, thanks ladies!)

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    I never feel out of place with the other dancers, but I do with the customers once in a while. I actually have a few great regulars that appreciate my intelligence and I don't dumb myself down for them at all- we actually have great conversations. It's the drunk, young, rowdy guys that I tend to feel more out of place with, because I just don't know how to talk to them. I'm only 20, so you'd think I'd easily be able to get along with the younger guys, but I can actually hold a conversation much better with a slightly older guy. I make tons of money off the young guys, but just feel more weird around them.
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    Most strippers are more hard than they are intelligent, and they play by the rules. It's a mold you must want to fit into. They're street smart. Really depends if you want to put yourself there. It's a dramatically different experience than the real world, alot of them just have no lines and it puts them in a place where they are limited in their career choices.

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    It depends on the club. My first club was a shithole and a notorious retirement home for strippers, and it was very clear that I was not welcome, as my everyday rhetoric would leave them blinking and saying, "Speak English!" and I was 20 and a size 2. The men were mostly filthy old hillbillies who saw nothing wrong with pulling all sorts of shit, and the jealous dancers eventually drove me out.

    I later moved to a college town strip club, which was 1000 times better. Half the girls were in college, so there was a lot more harmony and understanding and a better atmosphere overall. There are some very smart strippers out there.

    It also depends whether men come for intellectual stimulation or not. They usually want a thrill, some titties, and an ego boost, but I've had long conversations with good tippers about philosophy and other things. It really depends.

    If you hit the classier clubs, you prolly will be around more investment strippers and avoid some of the nasty stereotypical strippers. All in all, don't get involved in drama wherever you go. You're there to make money, not make friends. Be friendly and courteous, but don't get youself in situations that could be blackmail.

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    In all honesty, I don't understand why more smarties don't strip. I'm south of Boston, working in Alex's and it's been one of the better jobs I've had. It's a much higher hourly wage than I could get anywhere else and I plan on doing it even after I graduate from college (only one more semester).
    The only things I would say is read up on it, because hustling is a learned behavior and be prepared to deal with the stereotypes that come with the job. You'd be amazed at how many buy into the whole "stupid, drug addicted, single mom with self esteem and daddy issues" thing. Oy.

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    Shit, I graduated with a 3.8 GPA with the top ten percent of my class. I know I'm damn smart. But Emily is right, working for peanuts would be foolish and stupid.

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    It's not so much a question of being smart... but it did take me a long time to get used to the whole "money conquers everything" mentality. I came from a super-liberal family background/college/lifestyle where money wasn't supposed to matter, and it was something of a culture shock to find myself in a strip club where the phrase "make money" replaces "good luck" and someone asking you if you're "all right" means "did you break $100 yet?" ...it was a long, hard adjustment, and it took me about a year and a half to reconcile the industry values with the values I'd been living with my entire life.

    The first few weeks I definitely thought I'd joined the circus or something... it was a big, big difference from what I'd been used to.
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    Dear Da,

    You absolutely must must must read "Ivy League Stripper". It's an autobiography about a girl next door that went to Brown University who danced at the Foxy Lady to put herself throught school. She struggled with the same feelings you did and she was flat chested and ended up being one of the top earners in her club. I highly recommend that book, I think you especially could relate with her and the fact that you're thinking of dancing at the same club she did. Plus at the Foxy Lady, you don't have to dance downstairs, you could be a "knockout" which is a pretend hot topless wrestler (if they still do that, they did at the time she danced, early 90's). I think reading it will help you with your decision!!! Good luck and I think you should do it!

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    Just tell your boyfriend (and anyone else who comments) that saying "you're too smart to be a stripper" is like saying "you're too hot to be a college student."

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    I graduated college with a 3.90 GPA; I am also a retired dancer now. But I wouldn’t change one moment of the years I did dance for anything. Dancing will teach you not only a whole lot more about people and how they work in general then any classroom could ever teach you, but also you'll learn so much more about yourself. There are many dancers you will relate to well who are doing the same thing you want to do. The key things to remember would be to not go in with an attitude, like your better than, cause all that will do is make you an enemy quick. Accept each dancer for who they are, no matter what their walk in life, cause no matter what background someone comes from or if they are in college or not, you will meet some wonderful ladies. And you'll meet some not so wonderful. And always always remember, your not their to make friends, your there to make money. Just do your thing, and don’t get sucked in to the drama, because ohhhhh, there is always some type of drama going on....lol. Be nice and cordial to all, but keep your business your business. I think you'll do great with it, so long as you are prepared to deal with all the aspects that come with it. Go for it!

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    You just gotta exploit the "brainy" as another attractive trait. :-) Their eyes get BIG when I tell them I'm a creative writing student, and writing a novel. They think of me as a classy, bookish girl who just doesn't "hold herself above" partying with everyone else . . . good for business.

    I am about to release a chapbook of my old poetry under my stripper name, and sell it to customers along with my private dances! Already have a few customers clamoring to see my writing, so I might as well. This stuff is amateurish by highly trained standards, but the non-poets I show these poems to tend to like them. So I'm going to POD it and offer an autographed copy for the price of one private dance, or free with three. :-)

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    I used to flaunt my multilingualism, stating that I've studied Japanese and Mandarin Chinese, adn joke that I'm a cunning linguist. Guys would request little Japanese lessons.

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    Brainy strippers rock. I have an IQ of 148 and it actually helps me win over customers. I get a lot of folks from NASA in my area, and being able to -even slightly- keep up with their stories helps. I used to have a regular who would write up algebra problems for me to try and solve. And he tipped me for it! I hear a lot of guys... the non-falldowndrunk kind of guys... who rant about how they cant stand airheaded women. That's where nerdtastic hotties come in! Businessmen, techies, computer nerds, etc... I'd say 8 out of 10 love smart girls... but there are always going to be a few who think the dumb girl thing is cute.
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    My IQ is 156 and I use it all the time to talk to the rich smart...RICH customers. Did I mention the rich customers? I wear long floor-length dresses and glasses and discuss important things like financial investing, Shakespeare and computers. They love it and give me money for it.

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    I got straight A's at school and left college with 4 A-levels, umm, who said strippers were dumb.. I think it takes a pretty strong minded intelligent woman to do what we do and I know a hell of alot of woman that could not do this job

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    My all time favourite stripper was from Brooklyn where both her parents were Uni professors. After a spell as a rock musician in England she did her A levels here { usually taken at 18} aged 28 and passed so well she was taken on at Cambridge to study medicine. She is a surgeon now !

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    Regardless of someone's IQ, you can read up and study about things like Shakespeare and computers.

    I guess because I'm a brunette and don't get easily distracted by small, shiny objects, customers just assumed I was smart. It mostly seemed to help me and I did pretty well when I danced. It's more important to play dumb with management, especially if you work at a Deja Vu club.

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    Overall, from my experience, it has been far more of a detriment than an asset to have some intelligence in the business--but this problem has been mostly found when dealing with management, rather than dancers or customers. They really dislike dealing with people who are obviously smarter than they are, so watch out for this little pitfall.

    Of course, being a DJ is a different ballgame than being a dancer, but there are similar rules for survival--such as the avoidance of three and four syllable words, discussing philosophical matters, correcting grammatical errors, etc. At all costs avoid any semblance of superiority due to higher intelligence, this spells instant doom.

    It also gets easier the longer you do it. And the intelligent customers who have no need to feel superior to women will really appreciate you!

    Working in a college town such as Boston will be much easier than working in a rural area or a less cosmopolitan city, I'd say go for it...
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    On my website, I have a page of comebacks to presumptuous customers, and one of them is to the comment, "You seem too intelligent to be here." My response was always, "You don't."

    In general, I find it dangerous to assume one is too intelligent for anything. Every time I've ever thought that I have been severely bitten on the ass by my own supposed intelligence.

    Most strip joints are bars. Intellectual conversations that take place under the influence of alcohol are all pretty suspect any way

    On the other hand, I did avoid talking about what I was reading when I was working. My schtick was to say, "What's your favorite movie?" Usually much safer than books or politics. Like any salesperson, I aimed to make THE CUSTOMER feel intelligent, not myself.
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