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    Hey Everyone! Hope you are all doing well and hope everyone is making bank! I'm wondering, we've recently done a thread on what to look for when someone DOESN'T spend, how about, what to look for when someone DOES spend? How do you pick someone out of a room? Obvious ones would be in the custy tipped you a $20 or more on stage but what about the other ones that haven't even tipped? What about the guy(s) that are sitting there by themself? Is this something you figure out over time or are they mostly regulars that spend lots of money? I just started dancing, last night being my 2nd night in my life and I want to start making some serious cash. I've seen a few girls in my club walking out with a sh&t load of money, how do I do that? If anyone has any helpful tips, please put them in this forum. Thanks!

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    Default Re: Best indicator someone WILL spend???

    if he in relaxed position and looking around ( he does spend)

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    He offers you a drink when you are sitting with him. When he pays, I always try to catch a glimpse of what he pulls out. Don't make it obvious!

    Also check shoes and watches. That's a good indicator of money. Not necessairly that they will spend it but that they have it.
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    Guys who are looking around a lot want a girl to sit with them and are generally easy to sell. Other than this, I look for customers who want to spend money on me . I've found it's hard to predict just from looking at someone, but you can tell a lot from the first few seconds of conversation. I walk up, put my hand out, and say hello. If a customer gestures for me to sit on his lap, I'll try to sell him a dance right away; he'll either say yes immediately or he's some cheapo trying to cop a free feel and waste my time, in which case I get up and move on. If he lingers while shaking my hand, kisses my hand, asks me to sit down, has a genuine smile (as opposed to polite smile), or uses a very friendly tone of voice, I know he likes me and might want a dance. I'll sit down and start warming him up for one. Guys who want to talk to you will often ask how you are, your name, or another question; guys that you have to pry a response out of, who don't ask how you are, or who tell you their name but don't ask yours, aren't as eager to talk to you, or are shy. You will need to spend a little extra time on them; if it's slow, I go ahead and make an attempt, but if it's busy, I move on to easier prospects. Guys who are very curt, barely shake your hand, or refuse to look at you are NOT interested, are unhappy or shy, or for some reason have made a negative snap judgement about you. I usually wish these guys a fun night and move on. Only if it's very slow will I try to change their minds about me.

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    When you're on stage and he comes from across the room with his mouth on the floor just to tip you. I had that happen to me on Wed...best dam night of my life!!!!







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    What Grace said. Also, if they make eye contact with you across the room.


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    Yeah, the guys who tip me well while I am onstage are the first ones I go up to when I get off. Also, I use the stage to see who is watching me and shows interest. Those are the easiest targets.

    But sometimes when it's slow and you haven't been onstage or wont be for awhile, you have to approach them cold. It becomes a crap shoot at that point.
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    There are literally dozens if not hundreds of different types of buying signs but the most effective ones are based around how well you have established rapport with your customer. Watch his body language very closely. One of the best buying signs for when you are sitting with someone (like you do in a club) is when they start to lean in or get closer to you in some way. That is a typical sign that they are gaining trust with you and you have built the rapport level with him very well. That's a good time to start closing the sale.

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    How can you tell if a customer is going to be a big spender or a just-one-dance kinda guy? Usually I can tell the latter, but it's hard for me to pick out the former. Like tonight, I spent the last hour until close in the CR with this guy that I totally just happened to ask if he wanted a dance. My honest to god, I-wanna-go-home, I-don't-wanna-chat type hustle. I didn't expect him to go for one dance, let alone 17. And he looked just like every other guy in there with a Senators jersey and a hang-dog expression. Other times when I've landed guys who spend over $300 on me (our club does not have VIPs, just dances, so this is a lot), I also feel it was just luck deciding to sit with them. What kinda cues do these 'big spenders' give off? Are there any?

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    Oh boy there is lots of signs.

    -Learn as much as you can about mens fashions, shoes watches suits. After you know what kind of watch costs $15,000 you have a better idea about who has serious cash.

    -If you see someone ordering 2 drinks at once, or someone ordering a drink and a pack of smokes they're a good bet.

    -If someone gives the waitress a creditcard to open a tab that's a start... if it's a gold card or diners club that's even better.

    -If the other staff seem to give him special service he has tipped well in the past or just tipped them on that visit

    -Anyone asking for the good stuff, whatever premium drinks are sold at a higher price
    -Anyone asking for doubles

    -Bring up the subject of a bottle of champaign... if they seem even the slightest interested you know they have $$ to play with and move in for a hard sell!! This is a good time to start playing 'make a deal', like offer a package price, a nice round number 'just for them' like a bottle of champ and sexy dances 'till the night is over' (i.e. when the club closes)

    -Ask them if they have been to the club before, if yes ask them did they have the chance to see the VIP last time (may lead to 'no thats too expensive' or 'yes, i had 5 girls up there all night'.

    -Out of towners, ask them what hotel they are staying at (for example ask them if their company got them a decent room or whatever), learn what hotels are expensive. A guy in a hotel with minimum room charge of like $400 a night has $$ to play with.

    -Ask him where and what he ate for dinner. If he says steak or the nicest place in town,... you know. Plus it's a good segway 'Well is it time for desert yet? Lets go in VIP'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 242_fair
    -Ask them if they have been to the club before, if yes ask them did they have the chance to see the VIP last time (may lead to 'no thats too expensive' or 'yes, i had 5 girls up there all night'.
    Dam, I'm sitting here trying to figure out how that would play out in my head...it's genius! It's so..so...simple. Usually I get a $20 dance from the guy, then ATTEMPT to up it to VIP. I guess it really is good to go for the gusto







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    Quote Originally Posted by 242_fair
    -If you see someone ordering 2 drinks at once, or someone ordering a drink and a pack of smokes they're a good bet.
    Hey, mr money last night did order two drinks at once for himself! Hey, thanks fair. (and this dude was actually disapointed that the club closed and he couldn't spend more on me, which I don't understand how anyone doesn't get bored of the same girl after an hour, but oh well...I think he found my pathetic French endearing) I'm learning now!

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    Yep the guy ordering more than one drink at a time wants to get hammered and have a good time.

    Also, anyone loosening / removing a tie, this is a big sign they want to relax and have fun.

    Any guy flirting with the waitresses is sending signals he wants attention, try him.

    Cigars are a big tip-off (if you can stand the smell of being near them). A dude smoking a cigar is a good bet.

    If you don't have the nerve or paitence to approach a group to work them, watch from a distance to see if one guy is paying for all the rounds. Then when you DO get the energy to approach the group, go straight to the host / spender and dont' waste time with everyone else.

    Try to get your waitresses in the habit of following 2-3 minutes behind you to tables. I like them to show up a minute or so after I have introduced myself and sat down. Waitresses (good ones) are trained to push drinks and she will look at the customer and ask 'anything for the lady', putting him on the spot to offer a drink. If he gets you something, that's a good sign.

    I tend to go for the big fishies so this may not work for everyone, but I ask about hobbies too. A guy who collects cars, one who flys his own airplanes, etc, have all turned out to be amazing spenders.

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    ^ yes, how they act with the waitresses is also a pretty good indicator, if they're spending money, usually they'll be good tippers all around.

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    Just remember, when it's slow and you have nothing better to do, try and talk to everyone. Don't count someone out because they're not dressed to the 9s. Not all guys "wear" their money. Obviously if you have a better prospect, don't waste your time, but I've had quite a few "suprize" customers. The ones who are still in mechanic clothing, or who are wearing a band t-shirt and jeans, and wind up spending a couple hundred. It's not often, but it happens. Plus, I've found the slow times are the best times to get to these customers because this is when the other girls tend to ignore everyone and go sit somewhere by themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leogirl876
    Obvious ones would be in the custy tipped you a $20 or more on stage?
    I'd say a $5 or more on stage. In fact in some clubs, I'd say anyone who is walking up from the tables and tipping the stage at all.

    What about the guy(s) that are sitting there by themself? Is this something you figure out over time or are they mostly regulars that spend lots of money?
    Best way to find out is to ask. There's a lot of money in clubs going unspent because too many of the dancers make judgements based on attire, drink choices, etc., and too many customers in casual attire who just assume that girls will come over with the assumption that they have money. Someone taking the initative can help solve this little problem.

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    Don't count someone out because they're not dressed to the 9s. Not all guys "wear" their money.
    And there are some guys who do wear it just to show off and rub in people's faces. I can't count the number of times, I've gone into a club and probably outspent some of the folks who by first appearance you think would be whales.
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    Not try to be egotistical here or anything but I can usually tell if a guy is wanting to spend a lot of money. I have been fooled before though and got guys up the VIP room where they spent a ton of cash. I always ask everyone because you never know 100% for sure and it only takes one guy to make your night worthwhile.

    Usually the guys who want to spend will look around a lot at the dancers and really appear focused on the girls and also make eye contact. The onces who aren't going to usually are wrapped up in conversation with their friends, watching tv or playing pool. I pay attention to the guys first who are paying attention to me. Also, I have a lot better luck with the guys that come alone as opposed to groups. However, if you get one guy in the group to really like you he will recommend you to his friends and that works out great as well. I don't find that young men spend as much on me as guys in their mid thirties through 60. Guys older than 60 tend to be jerks at my club and act like we owe it to them to perform for free.

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    Also, I forgot, a very easy way to make a sell with a group if you are shy is to wait for the other girls to approach. If there is one last guy sitting and others are buying dances he almost a guranteed sell.

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    Pretty_Penny is sooooo right! My best regular wears old tshirts and sneakers, w/ a plastic watch! He comes in every tues. and we go straight back to the vip room. No dancing, he'll order food, bring me a gift (anywhere from platinum jewelry, a chain b/c one I had broke, to a beautiful waist length rope of pearls, and gourmet chocolates) and we chat! He'll come in around 10, and we'll sit in vip till the club closes! Great $$, and he tips sooooo well.

    This is totally a rarity though! I would have never approached him, but a waitress came to get me, told me he tipped her 50$ to come get me, so I knew he was serious!

    all of these other tips are awesome, keep them coming!

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    I was nice and chatted with a cross-dresser once and he was a vey nice tipper. The other girls fleed.
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    ^^ I'd be the FIRST to chat up a crossdresser.

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    i'd beg to differ on the 'cheapness=BANK' thing. unless those girls are routinely getting tipped 100-200% per dance and getting nothing but 5s onstage, it is pretty unlikely they can consistently make much over 300-400 on any given night. when the dance price is that low, unless the club itself has some kind of tipping culture that makes up for the dance price, girls aren't going to see much money compared to even 10 or 15 dollar dances. hell, i work in a club with 20$ minimum pricing on fully nude dances and i still usually end up dancing for no less than 25 per song, often more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilithmorrigan
    ^^ I'd be the FIRST to chat up a crossdresser.
    Me too. That's almost gauranteed money. And fun

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    One of the key fundamentals to sales in identifying buying signs from your customer is when they start asking YOU questions. When that happens, you might as well start counting the dollars. When I teach general sales seminars, that's one of the things I teach sales-people to pay close attention to. For example, in car sales, when the customer asks how much the payments would be on this particular model, that's a buying sign. In the club, listen to the types of questions your customer asks as they start to deviate from the "so, where are you from?" type of questions. Such as, "So, how much are the dances here?" is a HUGE buying sign and your signal to close up the sale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DancerWealth
    "So, how much are the dances here?" is a HUGE buying sign and your signal to close up the sale.
    LOL does any stripper NOT know that means the custy is ready for a dance? Sorry, just couldn't help it. I picked up on that one from day one

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