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    I was reading the editorials from a local paper from a small town I used to live in...

    Basically this rednick bitch said that dressing sexy is why women get raped, and their behavior makes them fair game.

    Someone really needs to write this ho a response to that bull$hit!

    You can do it by email. But I can't do it from overseas...

    "And then everyone wonders why so many women are complaining they are being raped. The answer is pretty obvious to me, but I do not go around complaining, what good would it do? They all want to be fashionable even if it makes them fair play."



    And the most screwed up part? This was in the course of a debate on BREASTFEEDING!

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    In my corporate job my old boss used to say that my skirts 4" above my knees may be sending the wrong message to co-workers. Boy was she one ignorant snob. And wrong.

    If a man thinks a woman is asking for sex because she dresses sexy, or flirts in this day and age, he needs his ass kicked as my former boss did too!

    Because our dress code said we could go that high..she was trying to make us all look like old ladies, and so damn scared she was up for trouble IF a co-worker said something about our legs etc. and we turned it in as sexual harrassment. Gets her ass off the hook to keep us looking like "grannies."

    Today If we say NO, no matter how sexy we dress or flirt, or make-out with a guy... No means NO!!!! If we don't want to FUCK him after a night of petting...NO still stands.

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    Some fat slob, addicted to hamburgers, took the opportunity to bitch about women in sexy clothes with this article. I thought it was pretty much known now that rapes are more of a "power" issue than "lust"? I would like to see her research for all the rape cases around that document the women wearing "revealing..sexy clothing"...Im sure if it was done, you would find just as many women who were wearing more conservative types of clothing.
    I will email her back, anything specific you would like to put in there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 242_fair
    Someone really needs to write this ho a response to that bull$hit!

    You can do it by email. But I can't do it from overseas...
    I'd help you out, but my sister in law works at that newspaper.

    It should be pointed out, this is a Letter To The Editor, and not one of the newspaper's editorials. Its actually a pretty left-slanted rag, which is why they get a lot of letters from old world nannies like that. Besides, why respond to that letter when there are hundreds more like it?

    There's no cure for such ignorant people. We're trying hard enough around here to keep them from turning our public schools into indoctrination camps for creationism and abstinence.
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    There are plenty of women who are attacked when they're jogging, walking to their car after work with the intention of going straight home, or IN their homes. I seriously doubt that a woman in professional wear, jogging sweats or bedclothes are "asking" for anything. Women don't get raped because of what they wear, they get raped because there are men out there who are violent and sociopathic enough to assault another person.

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    ^Couldn't have said it better myself. That's exactly what I would have said, though.

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    Here's mine sent to: [email protected] <[email protected]>

    This is regarding the breastfeeding article by Virginia Krepps. In it she writes about the decline of clothes that cover women's bodies and states, "And then everyone wonders why so many women are complaining they are being raped. The answer is pretty obvious to me, but I do not go around complaining, what good would it do? They all want to be fashionable even if it makes them fair play.?" Please forward this to her, and offer this up to the editorial page because this is just the sort of wrong-minded opinions that try to pass themselves off as fact for generations.

    V. Krepps;
    A) the term is "fair game," you ignorant, old-wives tale spreader.
    B) This actually IS enough of a lie to call it an old-wives tale. I have three friends who have been raped at some point in their lives. None of them were wearing tempting clothing. One girl was even wearing an oversized sweatshirt and overalls. Men don't rape because it's a sexual impulse. They rape because it's a way to gain power and dominance over an individual and to enjoy their pain and suffering. Quite often rapists plan in advance that they're going to rape, so they're not overcome by their hormones like you're saying. Rapists also tend to target women who they don't think are going to fight back, and in a lot of cases that means a self-conscious, glasses-wearing older lady who keeps her head down as if people won't notice her.
    C) That's really sick when I hear women (like yourselves) who've had a small, close-minded upbringing, and are threatened by women who are proud of their bodies, or who just plain like to dress they want. By talking (or attempting to, since you got the term wrong) about "fair game" you are cursing these women because you've been taught to toe the conservative line about women staying close to hearth and home, and not having the same sexual freedoms as men. That's a really sad way to live life, especially if you're a woman. It is one thing if you LIKE to wear a lot of clothes, but quite another if you can't due to upbringing or self-esteem issues, and then decide to snipe at those who can wear what they want.
    D) And just so you know, a woman never "deserves it." I could say that you deserve a lot of things because you're a small minded, and sexist (it is possible for a woman to be that, as you so clearly proved) jackass with her head up her butt too scared to look at why women really get raped. You KNOW it's got nothing to do with clothing, and even if a woman is parading around naked down main street whistling "I'm so sexy" it does not give ANYONE the RIGHT to rape her. Arrest her for indecent exposure, but rape is not a punishment and should never be considered a punishment by someone who is so far removed from actual rape victims that she would say it was what they were wearing that did it.
    I really hope that you don't get raped. I never pray for world hunger to stop, but I do pray for rape to stop.

    You should really consider volunteering (hopefully in a silent position for the first few times because otherwise you'd just become part of the culture that tries to SHAME women after they've been raped) at a rape crisis clinic. You might learn it's not THEIR shame, it's the rapists, and yet because we treat it as the other way around, that's why rape goes unreported, leaving the rapist to attack again. And they do attack again. and again. and again.

    And this is partly because of people like you, V. Krepps. People who keep old-fashioned and extremely poisonous beliefs like "if she wears short skirts, she's asking to be raped," are actually contributing to rapists getting away because it encourages the victim to question everything SHE did, and not put the blame where it should be on: the rapist. Why not attempt to help your own sex instead of becoming its enemy?

    Signed,
    Another Virginia who doesn't think like you.

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    haha Fancy your great...

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    Amen and pass the peas, Fancy!
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    Sounds like they're blamng the victim. Babies and elderly women also get raped, unfortunately. You mean the baby was wearing a sexy diaper?


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    That is all kinds of fucked up.

    I was on another board and this guy was basically saying, it's your own fault if you are raped...

    So I told him off and he got all "I'm sorry if you're too blinded to see someone else's opinion..."

    They just don't learn...

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    Heads up: to publish, the webmaster needs your real first name and last and a phone number to verify

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    A question with shades of grey when the question of rape could be down to a determination of whether the woman consented to sex .

    A provocatively dressed woman worse for drink might give the impression that she's looking for sex.

    Yet, no matter how she's dressed, or how drunk she is; there's still a moral responsibility on the man, particularly if he's sober or doesn't know the woman well, to make sure she has actually consented to sex. If in doubt, don't go ahead.

    One problem occurs because alcohol removes inhibitions. It's possible that a drunk woman might consent to sex while in that condition, despite the fact that, when sober, she would not. This makes it extrordinarly difficult for a stranger to her to judge whether she has indeed consented.

    Rape under any circumstances should not be condoned but, if there is a moral duty on a man to make sure that the woman's consent to sex is genuine, then to my mind, there is a equal moral duty on the woman to ensure that she doesn't get so drunk as to consent while drunk, to something she would not while sober.

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    ^ you are correct that sexual partners should be very cautious when drinking. I (and the other girls here) just get so sick of morally conservative women of the older generation blaming rape on clothing (not alcohol, or barhopping) but merely how short her skirt is. I almost got into a yelling argument with an eighty something year old boss one time who said this exact same thing, and the only thing that reigned me in was that she's so old she actually BELIEVES this, that if she herself covers specific body parts, it will protect her from rape in about 90% of the cases when that is SO far from the truth.

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    242Fair, tried to email you, but your box is full.
    So, I've been emailing with the webmaster and he might print the letter (who knows?) but he was asking me about my connection to Hutchinson. There really isn't any except for this thread. Anyways, I was wondering if it was okay to tell him about the thread that was started here. However, since you stated that you lived there for a time, I didn't want to open your profile up to speculation if people could easily recognize who you were.
    Let me know.

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    Did you know being overweight is in direct correlation with how many pictures you have on your walls?

    Did you know your soda can's weight is in direct correlation with where on the table you put it?

    Makes about as much sense as that. u_u

    Didja know if you wear a sweatsuit YOU ASKED FOR IT because obviously your hair was up in a sexy pony-tail the attacker liked. *cough*

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    Quote Originally Posted by fancygirl
    So, I've been emailing with the webmaster and he might print the letter (who knows?) but he was asking me about my connection to Hutchinson. There really isn't any except for this thread.
    Which just reiterates my point is why there is no need in bothering to respond to that bile. They get letters from "concerned citizens" stating that everything from skimpy women's attire to Marilyn Manson music is bringing down Western civilization all the time.

    By the very next day, nobody who reads the print version of the Hutchinson News is going to give a shit what was on the previous days op/ed page unless the subject is a local current event. I hardly think a member of a online BBS geared towards strippers airing their offense to a letter printed in a small town daily newspaper qualifies.

    I used to write LTTE's all the time, and If I wrote a response to every letter I saw published that offended me, I'd never have time to put down my pen.
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    You know what? I can't help it if a man has no self control. If he wants to rape someone, he's going to do it whether they dress like a dancer or a school teacher. I refuse to walk around hiding my beautiful body with unflattering clothes.

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    Well it's a really small town and what if they publish the link to this forum?

    I'm not comfortable with that but if you really want to that's your choice.

    ;-)

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    What planet are they from?!

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    no worries then, 242. and as for "what's the point to responding to that bile?" well <shrug> I hope the writer of the article actually puts some time in discovering the facts. I don't really write letters, but I guess I'm just so tired of this sort of thing being assumed to be true.

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    HELL NO!! If a man is a rapist, he will rape the woman regardless of what she wore. She could have on bra and panties, or a frumpy jogging suit. For real rapists, they are usually looking for a vivtim, and it's usually a cretain type of profile, normally not based on their clothes but occupation, hair color, skin color, etc. I feel sorry for those who actually believe that a shot skirt asks for a woman to be raped. How stupid!
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    Phil-W: I'm not sure about the States, but in Canada if you are drunk, you are considered unable to consent and it is therefore on the onus of the not drunk one, not to have sex. Where I think it's murky is if both people are drunk.

    Very sad couple of fact tidbits:

    Men have been acquitting of molesting children as young as 3 with the excuse (from the judge) that the child was acting in a sexually explicit way. Horrible, isn't it, when we attribute sexual qualities to someone who still doesn't know how to say penis and vagina

    Probably about 6 years ago, no more than 10 (I can't remember) a study was done where people were given a situation of a woman being raped and whether they though it was her fault. The ONLY time the woman was considered completely blameless was in this scenerio:

    A white girl who is a virgin is baby-sitting a child in the afternoon, with the windows and doors locked, when a black man who was a stranger breaks in and rapes her.

    At first, the scenerio was that the windows were open and that's how the guy got in. You know what people responded? Why weren't the windows locked? She could have prevented it from happening! Barf!

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    My personal view as far as sex and drunkeness goes is better safe than sorry.

    I'd rather tuck her up in bed by herself, than have to face a distraught woman the next morning.

    If she's genuinely interested in you, there'll be other times, and if she isn't - nasty allegation avoided.

    Phil.

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    absolutely!

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