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    If I can't find a customer to sit with (or if the selection of available customers isn't to my "type",).
    What do you mean by the above statement? Do these customers who are "not to your type", turn you down when you approach them, or are you not approaching them at all?

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    You don't have to sit by yourself looking sullen. When I worked day-shift at another club, it was a similar situation to yours. I always managed to look busy though. I said "hello" and introduced myself to every customer and did my "sales script" or flirted even if they weren't my type so I looked busy. When guys first arrived I would welcome to the club, tell them I was giving them time to settle in, and invite them to come to my stage show later (if I was up soon). The guys would keep an eye on me while I looked busy moving onto the next guy, acted like I was having fun, or disappeared into the dressing room. By the time my stage came around, everyone would be there to tip me, and ask for dances. I didn't have a type, and gave everyone an equal opportunity to spend $$ on me which allowed me to maximize my time and appeal.

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    You don't have to sit by yourself looking sullen. When I worked day-shift at another club, it was a similar situation to yours. I always managed to look busy though. I said "hello" and introduced myself to every customer and did my "sales script" or flirted even if they weren't my type so I looked busy. When guys first arrived I would welcome to the club, tell them I was giving them time to settle in, and invite them to come to my stage show later (if I was up soon). The guys would keep an eye on me while I looked busy moving onto the next guy, acted like I was having fun, or disappeared into the dressing room. By the time my stage came around, everyone would be there to tip me, and ask for dances. I didn't have a type, and gave everyone an equal opportunity to spend $$ on me which allowed me to maximize my time and appeal.
    This sounds like a great approach to the strip club work environment!
    I tend to gravitate towards sitting by myself like the OP, but I would like to be more like you in the way I do things. A lot of the time, I feel like I just don't have it in me.

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    I'll sit by myself usually if their isn't a customer available to talk to or any girls I care to chat with. It's not a big deal, you are a grown woman and can certainly sit alone just as any adult man or woman can. I am introverted by nature and an a only child and that doesn't make me a lonely or sad person but just a loner in general. I don't think there is anything "wrong" with that. If a customer asks you why you aren't smiling, just say I'll give us a reason to both smile if you care to spend some time together chatting or dancing.

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    After my recent experience in a club up in Darwin where the Dancers outnumbered the patrons quite a few times esp. early on in the night or even later in the night when all the spending patrons had spent their money (and weren't going to spend any more)... I found myself 'alone' alot. This is where club regulars who are mainly in the place for the drink (there's no way you will make money sitting and/or chatting with him/them) can come in handy ....and I do use them to good effect.

    I sit with them. It makes me look busy to the effect that I am with someone at least.

    Depending on the size of the club will depend on what I do when I do find I am by myself... larger clubs I will just wander around... go to the dressing room quickly... then wander around some more... keep on the move. As soon as you stop moving, you stop being "seen" as such. For the smaller clubs (which there are alot of in Australia), this is very hard to do just due to the size/layout of the club... so I will hang out at the bar for a little bit... the way I try to keep an up-beat look about myself is to "enjoy the music".. who cares I have heard the song for the billion-th time in my life.. who cares if I really like the music.. I just try to nod my heat or tap my foot or do something to show I'm liking the music.. enjoying myself... or "think happy thoughts".

    Yet I won't stay at the bar for too long.. I will then (if there are still no other options) go to the dressing room for a bit.. then come back out.. etc.


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    Page, I would try to learn some basic Spanish if you work in a club like that. There is money to be made but you need to be able to ask for a dance, ask how are you tell the the cost of the dances, and tell them there is no sex, plus a few other things in Spanish, and I think you'll find you money will increase.

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    I work at a club with many Francophone customers who can't or won't speak English. I come from western Canada so my French is terrible, but it's amazing how well I've managed to get by with the handicapped vocabulary I have. I know that the french canadians are very patriotic about their culture, which is why they probably get such a kick out of making me stumble through their language.

    If you practice and force yourself, you will manage. And the more you do it, you'll be amazed at how soon you'll be communicating. I do know where you're coming from, I used to avoid these guys too because of the headache. But after making myself at least try, I've sold dances and explained dance rules using mostly sign language even (we get guys from world over at my club, and I'm not going to try and learn every european and asian language). Not to mention I'm one of maybe three girls outta the hundred or so on schedule at my club who don't speak french fluently. If you make an effort to communicate, it won't matter if you're not a flawless speaker. And gestures alone can convey "no sex, no touch" in my experience.

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    yes! completely! i like to stay on the floor to see if any regulars come in or to see if any new people come in so i can be the first to introduce myself. however, at the same time, the people that are already there see me "brooding." i am not, however, really unhappy...most of the time. i simply do not have a customer that is not already occuppied or who wants my attention. to combat this, i usually go in the dressing room or walk around to the bathroom or bar. unfortunately, the club where i am is small...so taking a walk doesn't occupy much time. i, too, try to make up for looking unhappy by putting on an energetic performance. but yeah, i guess it might not always work.

    i was actually just thinking about this topic the other day. i've heard some girls who smile even when by themselves do well. however, i, personally, would feel too fake. and when i feel fake i sense that customers kno this...which makes me self conscious. i think too much lol. but yeah...i understand.

    all i can tell you is to talk to a regular who might not buy dances? but then again, that'll give people the wrong idea...that your time is NOT money...or you could go in the dressing room, but then you would miss the action. i'm not really sure what do to

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    I've always gone out of my way not to be seen sitting alone. I'd go back and forth to the dressing room or bathroom, to the bar for water, or sit longer with non-paying customers to look "popular." I recently changed clubs, though, and at the new club I sometimes let myself sit at the bar alone if it's slow or if I just feel like I need a short break; I've been approached several times by customers while I was by myself, all of whom bought dances, and some of whom spent a lot of money on my. So maybe it depends on the club culture?

    Also, the bar I sit at is the one where most of the customers are; it's near the main stage and close to a private dance area, so I'm not out of sight when I'm sitting there. I also make an effort to look pleasant and approachable while I'm sitting down. I keep smiling and sit back in my chair so my body language is relaxed. Leaning forward, hunching your shoulders and staring downward all tend to indicate that you're unhappy or tired. Maybe you're sitting this way and sending the message that you're having a bad night.

    I still try to limit the time I spend sitting alone, but I no longer think sitting by yourself is the kiss of death, as long you're still sending out signals that you're sexy and fun. Any time customers can see you, you're working. If you need time by yourself to space out, do it back in the dressing room.

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    This one girl at my club is very interesting. I made it a point to watch her all night because my atf wasn't there the other night. I took a seat toward the back of the room where I could observe her from afar.

    She was just amazing. She never sat down for more than 30 seconds with a customer and she never sat alone. She was just walking the room incessantly going from one end to the other, to the dressing room, to the ladies room. She just kept very busy. As she walked the room she would stop every now and then and just start dancing to the music flailing her arm about as if to say she was really enjoying herself. As a result, she banked she converted 9 out of every 10 guys she approached into buying dances.

    I recommend dancers to not sit idly by and sulking. Always make it look like you are having a good time. When you walk the room, try to not be stiff, walk with a flair like you're the greatest thing since sliced bread. It works!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tina
    Page, I would try to learn some basic Spanish if you work in a club like that. There is money to be made but you need to be able to ask for a dance, ask how are you tell the the cost of the dances, and tell them there is no sex, plus a few other things in Spanish, and I think you'll find you money will increase.
    Better yet, I think they need to learn some basic english! haha!

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    Never sit by yourself. Sometimes if ATF got in the shift early (to leave earlier), she would sit at the bar by herself. However, that was because the night shift and night regulars weren't around and the place was fairly slow. Also the day shift is trying to make their final numbers around shift change time with the customers that are there.

    Don't ever sit by yourself. Be with a fun group of regular dancers. Sit in a group with
    some regulars of other dancers and have fun. (At least look like you are having fun.)
    Hopefully the regulars will fund a few table side dances and tip a bit on stage, and normally they will. However understand that those regulars are there for specific dancers. don't try to steal them. The group is for PR and to occupy your time in a meaningful not isolated way.

    In high school did you sit around by yourself? And I am convinced a strip club is alot like a high school. Its just not cool and its bad for your image in the club to sit around by yourself.

    A bigger club is more helpful to have niches and palces to hide in with your group.

    Heres the acting part. You are on stage when you're on the club floor. You are a desireable women. You have confidence. You have fun things to do with your friends
    in the group. Other men wish they could break into the group, (they can't because they arfen't regulars to the group), and the alternative for them is to buy dances with you which is good for you. Your time is not free. If they aren't buying your companionship, you have other things to do, and its not with them. That is the message your actions convey.

    The group thing at the start of a night lets you figure out who your allies are that night for
    bachelor parties and which dancers you trust. Get your group. You can bet that the bitch dancers have their group, and that you aren't in it.

    When the night gets busy, the regular buying drinks gets left out a bit. Eventually he will either leave, or buy dances or a VIP. however he has served his purpose, and it is a valuable purpose at the start of a night.

    Don't sit alone. Its bad for your business.

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    The meet with your group also serves as the start of night orientation. Who is the manager? Who is suspended for drinking? What drama is going on? Which cocktail waitresses work that night. Any rumours of big in club bachelor parties? Any conventions or groups coming in? It really lets you plan your night. It's almost like a private briefing.
    The regular you are with likes to hear the "scoop" of what is really going on also.

    It is a really valuable planning tool for your night. It also makes you look busy.

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    i find while it's quiet i chat to the bar staff, keep the waitresses company, talk to the dj, if no-one is available to 'entertain' me, i stand at the bar with my butt poking out and quietly dance to the (horrible) music and usually guys entering the bar will come stand next to me because i look like i want to be there while all the other girls look bored.
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    I don't know why people say they'll sit with a guy anyway. My time is money and I won't sit with a non-paying guy just 'cause he's the only one there. I'd rather be alone chatting up the guards or doorgirl than making it seem I am free for the taking.

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    I say sitting by yourself is fine, and not at all the kiss of death. But, only do so when all men are either sitting with a girl or you have already hustled them. Do not give your time away for free by sitting with someone to look busy. Often, I will have someone approach me to ask for dances while I am sitting by myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenna78
    I say sitting by yourself is fine, and not at all the kiss of death. But, only do so when all men are either sitting with a girl or you have already hustled them. Do not give your time away for free by sitting with someone to look busy.
    Very true. The really bad part about sitting with a non-paying customer is that a potential spender who sees you from across the room is going to make the assumpion that you are occupied and unavailable, and will quickly turn their attention towards somebody else.

    For the same reason, never "give your time away for free" to those from whom you cannot make any money from. In otherwords, avoid the lazy dancer's table (and every club seems to have one). In either of these situations where you really need to be scanning the room, your focus can become really limited.

    Still, I think its better to be moving alone than sitting alone. A graceful gait and a confident smile are two of the most potents weapons a dancer can use to attract customers, and they can't see those things if she's crouched into a chair or a barstool. The more square footage of the floor a gal covers, the more people who can see her.
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    What doc says.

    If it's slow, then you're in a tough spot. You're damned if you do but damned if you don't. When clubs are slow, it's much much harder to sell dances. Guys feel like they are more in control.

    Try to read the customer's mood. If you haven't seen them get a dance in a while and they seem not to respond to the "Hi, where are you from? Wanna dance?" brief convos some dancers use effectively, then you might want to sit down on his lap or next to him for 1/2 a song and engage in a brief conversation. If he won't talk about himself, then you might have to offer up something personal. Keep it focused on the here and now, like something about your costume. Then ask him his opinion about something. If he seems responsive, ask him if he wants a dance. If he's not responsive, then it's time to move on with a casual excuse like fixing your hair.


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