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    My good friend in Vegas has visited me again, which happens about once every three years, and is always a pleasure.

    But it is interesting and sometimes challenging to accompany him around town, especially in the strip clubs, and especially when he gets drunk.

    One thing I have noticed about the very wealthy is that they are accustomed to getting their way--one of the perks of untold riches at your disposal, I'm sure. Not only can you buy whatever you want, whenever you want, but the vast majority of people will immediately adopt the ass-kissing mode when confronted with such wealth and power.

    I'm not talking about any of you, so don't take offense, please--I'm talking about people who aren't accustomed to dealing with such wealth and power. Most dancers have learned to do so, generally in a fashion to ensure the dispensation of some of that wealth, lol...

    Where some guys tend to want to overtly display their wealth and influence, this is not exactly what I am talking about, and is more common to the nouveau riche types, or the kind of people with a base insecurity which constantly motivates them to act like a big shot or a wheeler-dealer.

    This is an entirely different phenomenon--they aren't acting or playing--they're just used to getting their way, period. No pretense, no ostentation, just the assumption it's so, and always will be. It's not always offensive, exactly, but it can be puzzling.

    This is interesting for me, since I'm not one to follow anyone, and the more I deal with this guy, the more adept I have become at gently guiding him along the path of 'maybe we should stay awhile longer here, Bob seems to be having fun with Delilah', etc.

    Except when it comes to women. In this area the guy is triply cursed, since he was quite a player in his youth, and is still quite a drinker as well. So he's used to getting his way due to two factors, one of which is no longer applicable--and the liquor makes it worse and worse as the night goes on, lol...

    This means he can be very tricky to take into stripclubs, especially where I know a lot of the dancers. I find myself warning certain ones away immediately, or warning him that he really wouldn't want a dance with Princess, she's not what he's looking for, etc.

    Anyone had any similar experiences?
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    I know what you mean. I've seen a lot of wealthy people who act like total jackasses simply because they have money. It's sickening. I live in the DFW area and can't believe the countless acts of snobbery I encounter every time i walk into Southlake or Dallas.
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    What really irritates me is that it gives most decent-minded wealthy people a bad reputation. (as someone who comes from a wealthy, but nice, family.)

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    AH!!! You walk into somes dorm and you can swear their sheets are pure gold. You go back to you room and are like...
    Well, that was disgusting.
    I personally like having the small amount of stuff I have. I respect all of my posessions. I think this is very useful.... I'd really rather not be a rich asshole.
    Some rich people are cool....
    Some say "Here, have this 1000 dollar dress I wore once"
    I'm pretty offended by that (but the dress was cool)

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    Heh heh. I had a good day the other day - not only dog man but some jerk lady in a Mercede's SUV was blocking the right turn lane trying to get into the straight thru lane at a light.

    I honked until she finally backed up into the gas station again. WTF happened to right away? Who the hell does she think she was blocking an entire line of traffic?

    And I bet she was talking about how rude I was on her cell phone conversation to top it off.

    My horn is fast becoming the favorite part of my vehicle. Now I need a giant hand posing the finger to come popping out of my trunk at the flip of a switch.

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    * My biggest pleasure is scaring the rich & sheltered. I grew up in the barrio with a drug dealing/addicted, thieving brother, so I learned all kind of mean tricks to convince someone with something to lose that I might make it happen. Or more simply put, the Brere Rabbit Wit. * I also knew a guy who would hang out at his local In-N-Out Burger to beat up rich kids for fun.

    I've dated some welathy men, and they have never thrilled me as much as the stone-cold dudes (upper military echelon/ Hell's Angels.) So men, wealth is not the only way to warm panties, you can just be raw. (See "City of God" for a great juxtaposition of the power of Animus Versus Money.) IMHO great wealth turns men into p*ssies.

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    Djoser,

    I run into this all the time. Although I would say that mostly, this attitude is more prevalent in individuals who don't/can't appreciate how they got their wealth. I saw a lot of this during the internet gold rush. Kids who are given wealth without being taught how to earn money or those people who get lucky and get rich can't empathize with other people who do work for a living and unwittingly act "special" in a way that comes off as rude.

    I will also say that some of the humblest people I've met are extremely rich but just chose not to show it. Some describe the difference as "New World" vs. "Old World" behavior.

    A real bummer about how your LV friend acts in front of your stripper friends. I've had that happen to me a few times, it's painfully embarrasing.


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    The kind of phenomenon I'm describing isn't always overtly assholish or showy--though sometimes it is. And it should be said that the very wealthy cannot be labelled accurately so easily--like any other group they have members who defy the norm.

    I suppose it can be summed up by that line from "The Great Gatsby":

    "The very rich are not like you and me"

    Gatsby tried, and succeeded for a while, to put himself in this category.

    I've run into it before, too, from a few. When they are done talking, they assume the conversation is over. It's not so much that they think they are superior, or that you have nothing more to say--they are just so accustomed to everyone meekly shutting up when given the correct signal.

    The fairly rich, or the newly rich, tend to try a little harder to make you aware of the difference. The very rich just automatically assume it--in fact it isn't really a conscious effort at all, in the cases I am thinking of--though where there is a base insecurity there will always be a conscious effort towards self-aggrandizement.
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    djoser, I know what you mean. One summer home from college, I worked as as a glazier, laying custom mirror in people's homes. This was in the 80s and mirrors were big. I lived near Palm Beach, and did a lot of work over there. LOTS of old money there.

    The people there just had an attitude about them that, as you say, wasn't necessarily ass-holish...it was more like...they just don't understand not getting their way, and quickly. It's not like they demand something and then act like an asshole if they don't get it...they just have an expectation that when they want something, they get it, and if it doesn't happen, they kind of...sometimes don't know what to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Hyde
    The people there just had an attitude about them that, as you say, wasn't necessarily ass-holish...it was more like...they just don't understand not getting their way, and quickly. It's not like they demand something and then act like an asshole if they don't get it...they just have an expectation that when they want something, they get it, and if it doesn't happen, they kind of...sometimes don't know what to do.
    Exactly--and it's actually easier to take than the attitude of those who are trying desperately to play the big shot, or who get irate at being denied what they want.

    Though you'll never find me doing anything more to give them something they don't deserve because of this, lol...

    The bragging is different, too--the guy who merely has a lot of money will tend to go on endlessly about the perks of having it, or perhaps exaggerate (like he has 3 Porsches, and 4 mansions around the country, instead of 2, etc.). The mentioning of designer labels, etc., whenever possible.

    The very wealthy don't bother with this as much, their peers could care less how many Porsches are in the garage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser
    The very wealthy don't bother with this as much, their peers could care less how many Porsches are in the garage.
    Yea - the game tends to be different. It is a matter of what you are building (constructiona and organizations of financial types) or what your latest project is.

    Getting people to buy stuff can be a fun riddle.

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    Yes, and whenever I hear the tiresome after-action reports from dancer friends and lovers, on this or that guy who described every detail of the benefits of being wealthy--usually in a tacit attempt to impress his listeners--I think 'Sounds like a crock of shit to me'--even if a lot of it is true, lol...

    The purpose is still to impress the listener with the glamor and excitement of the teller's life.

    It's fucking boring to me.

    This is why I often prefer the conversation of the very wealthy to that of the newly or somewhat wealthy types, though certainly not always, and never without a clear and genuine mutual respect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Hyde

    The people there just had an attitude about them that, as you say, wasn't necessarily ass-holish...it was more like...they just don't understand not getting their way, and quickly. It's not like they demand something and then act like an asshole if they don't get it...they just have an expectation that when they want something, they get it, and if it doesn't happen, they kind of...sometimes don't know what to do.
    OHHHHH, that explains Bush. I couldn't understand his befuddlement when reporters challenge his assertions. He just assumed they give what he wanted when he wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser
    Exactly--and it's actually easier to take than the attitude of those who are trying desperately to play the big shot, or who get irate at being denied what they want.

    Though you'll never find me doing anything more to give them something they don't deserve because of this, lol...

    The bragging is different, too--the guy who merely has a lot of money will tend to go on endlessly about the perks of having it, or perhaps exaggerate (like he has 3 Porsches, and 4 mansions around the country, instead of 2, etc.). The mentioning of designer labels, etc., whenever possible.

    The very wealthy don't bother with this as much, their peers could care less how many Porsches are in the garage.
    Yes! You hit on it well here...they come from, and live in, a world that most of us don't see or interact with. Within that world, having a family yacht (or whatever) is expected and not a reason to brag, and bragging to someone from a different social class is just...it's not like they even think about such a thing. It'd be like a person from an upper middle class background interacting with a somewhat poor person...you don't honestly give them much thought.

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    One of my room-mates was once friends with a successful NBA player. This guy had millions of bucks, several houses & cars, and dozens of hanger-on friends. This guy was used to getting pandered to, and yep, no one ever told him "no". & Then look at Kobe Bryant- a lesson in "be careful for what you wish for..." (smirk.)
    On a slightly different angle, a news story popped up recently about Larry Ellison (CEO of Oracle Computers) being reined in on his personal expenditures by company accountants. He's the guy with "The Story" of being an adopted poor kid raised in the Chicago ghetto. So if someone like him could get carried away with excess fundage, we all could.

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    The rich jocks are an even more difficult group, perhaps, they have their asses kissed for another reason as well, and even more blatantly, publicly, and on television to boot.

    Personally, I'm not at all impressed by guys bouncing inflated balls and tossing them into nets--it's even more boring than listening to guys brag about how exciting their lifestyle is.

    Not to say it doesn't take skill and co-ordination to play any major league sport, but it's not interesting at all to me, any more than watching a really skilled quilting expert would be, for instance.

    And Mr. Hyde, you're quite correct--what could be more boring to someone with 6 Porsches, 5 mansions, and a gigantic yacht, than some idiot yammering away about his own he just bought?

    The nouveau riche might delight in this, but to those long accustomed to it, it is no doubt as tiresome as it is to me--for entirely different reasons, lol...
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    In the End, In our clubs, thouth money on us you do spend!!!

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    I lived with the rich many times. I always thought they just, well, didn't quite get it. >_> But it was nice when they'd randomly throw clothes at you while cleaning their closet because "I FUCKING THOUGHT I WAS A SIZE ZERO IN THESE SEVEN JEANS, YOU WANT EM?" Like, $400 jeans...sure! L.A.M.B. handbags that were last season, etc.

    I was a pretty cool kids 'cause I had richkids hand-me-downs. And they weren't all UPPITY about hanging around with a kid like me that didn't have much money. I never asked for anything and didn't expect the hand-me-downs... so they knew I wasn't leeching.

    But damn, sometimes it's difficult to keep them entertained. They can have anything, why should they have you?

    So I always try to think of fun things that don't involve money. Which they usually appreciate as something they cannot buy, y'know? "Let's hang out and rollerblade at the beach and pickup on hot guys while eating cheap hotdogs, my treat!" And they just have fun with me, very cheaply, and we spend quality time together - and they know I'm not using them.

    Reassurance you're wanted for you and not your money... you can never buy that.

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