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    My boyfriend and I are having an argument.

    One day, on the way to pay for a new apartment, Michael lost $800 of my money. Since it was my money, he said he'd pay me back but he'd hold onto it in his bank account so it wouldn't get lost again.

    Fast forward. We go to pay the apartment complex for a new apartment $1200. I pay $400 and he pays the $800 he said he'd keep for me.

    Now he's saying he paid $800 of the rent and thus paid more rent than I did overall. He said that since he paid me back in that form it was HIS money he paid ME back for losing. And since it was HIS money, he paid more rent than I have over the last two months.

    I say since he owed me the money anyway, the rent deposit and first two weeks were entirely me.

    Your opinion?

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    It was money he owed you; in other words, it was YOUR MONEY. Him paying you with your own money does not qualify as his spending more. That money was yours.

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    well are you guys splitting the apartment? Because if so, you both would pay half =600. If he paid 600 PLUS another two hundred, he still owes you another six hundred since I'm assuming you paid your rent way back when on your own when he originally lost it.

    It gets odd when people pay others back indirectly. If it gets too confusing, treat this situation as something outside of what he owed you, and then just have him pay you in cash.

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    he's now paid you back on the $800 he lost... but now he owes you $600 for his half of the rent you just effectively forwarded him.

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    Default Re: Who's right?

    Here's how it worked:

    I didn't end up getting the first apartment since he lost the money.

    When we got the apartment, he put down the 800 he owed me and I put down 400. It totalled 1200.

    He's paid rent ever since then and now his total equals 1200.

    I say we're even on rent. He says he's paid 800 more than me because it was HIS money he GAVE me when he lost MY money (on a bus).

    Last week, we split the rent 50/50.

    So I say we're still 100% even.

    Even if we're not... he fricken SIGNED the paperwork where it says I paid the thing in full.. so even if he tries to argue it legally, it's my money.

    But we're arguing the point more of a 'no I AM RIGHT' kind of way. Not because either of us wants the money or wants the other one to pay rent.

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    1200 was the bond + two weeks rent.

    We pay weekly here at 200 a week.

    We've lived here 7 weeks. He paid six.

    We split the 7th.

    I say we're even. He says he's 800 ahead.

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    And we don't technically 'split' rent. Whoever pays it pays it. It's really an argument that has no POINT as he's not trying to get out of paying and neither am I... I'm just trying to show I'm fricken right.

    He'll still pay if I need him to and I'll still pay if he needs me to.

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    I think that considering the dire financial straits you're in, he needs to pay you back the $800 he owes you. That's not chump change considering the situation you're in. It could make a real difference in whether you get to stay in the country or not.

    Red flag, sugar, red flag... I'm not saying this is worth breaking up over, but watch for similar behaviors on down the line. And keep your finances SEPARATE.

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    Okay, so he paid 800 of 1200. His half was 600. His surplus was 200. Therefore the remainder on what he owed you was 600. [800-200=600]

    Your half for the six weeks BEYOND the 1200 = 600 (six weeks multiplied by 200 a week divided by two = your half) [6x200=1200/2=600]

    So he paid his half, AND your half. Your half equaled 600, which is the same as the remainder from the whole bond issue. [600-600=0]

    You guys are even.

    Edit: he needs to write out his version of this word problem to support why he thinks you owe him money now. The above version is your support. What's his?

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    WHOA fancygirl you put it in a totally different perspective than I thought. O.o;;; See, I didn't see us as SPLITTING the deposit, since I figured it was all my money and we never agreed to go on 'halves'. So, putting it your way, he's actually 600 AHEAD of me. O.O;; Only if we agree to halves it though. If not, I paid the deposit and he paid equal rent and then we're even.

    Bah, I get his point now!!!

    This argument was not really about money, Yek... especially since I cannot get the 800 back anyway - the bank has it as deposit! He has less money than I do, currently (and I have $55!)... we're just trying to figure out if we're technically even or not.

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    OKAYOKAY Here's how I see it:

    I paid $1200 deposit and first/last week's rent. Total = 1200 paid by me (800 was the monet he owed me)

    He paid $1200 in rent since then

    We both paid $100 each on the last weeks rent, making us both at $1300 total.

    NOW IF YOU'RE SAYING he went HALF on the rent, $600....

    So then... he paid my 200 'cause I had 400 on me... so that means he owed me 600.

    Then he paid 1200 rent.

    Then we split the 7th week.

    So that means he's ahead 600.

    EDIT : wait no, that makes us EVEN again

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    AGGGGHHH!!! O_O

    So either way, we're even and I'm right.

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    okay, you lost me, because if you weren't going halvsies, then yeah, he's ahead, but it would only make sense that ya'all would split the deposit....unless there's a chance you guys would break up-- then it does make sense for only one person to be entitled to the deposit (though it sucks if you get charged wear and tear because the other person doesn't have to pay for any of that.)

    I don't necessarily see this as a red flag; my siblings and I squabble over petty shit like this even when the amount is less than $17!!! But Yek is right though that to avoid the stupid squabbling like this (and over MONEY too which is the number one cause of tension in relationships) is to a) split everything unless specifically stated otherwise, b) keep your finances separate, and c) if something random like losing that money comes up, keep is separate from your other affairs-- just have them pay you directly and then you don't have to figure that out at the same time you're trying to figure out rent.

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    You're even as long as you guys split the initial 1200 apartment cost.

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    Yeah it's simply a squabble. Michael is confused and saying "I never said I was ahead! I just said I paid part of the deposit!"

    No, if we weren't going halves, we're still even because then I technically paid half of all the 6 weeks rent after that - thus, the 600 he owed me.

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    Our finances are usually seperate. The money on the deposit is IN MY NAME. I signed it, I even had the lady put it all in my name when SHE tried to halves it. So either way, I'm legally entitled to it.

    He's not asking for money or saying I pay the rent every week... we're just squabbling.

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    DAMNIT!!! I told him I'd forgive him if he got me a juice. He asked how I was sure he wouldn't poison me. I said, "I'll taste for almond." And he flipping PUT AN ALMOND FLOATING IN MY JUICE!

    This is a petty squabble, not a money issue... just a weird random argument.

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    I think Michael and I were both right.

    I assumed: I paid deposit and he paid none. But he paid 6 weeks rent.

    He assume: He paid half of everything and my money went into the rent after that. So we were always paying half rent since he'd still owe me $600 after $200 being what he owed me during the time of the deposit.

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    But I'm still right since I had the deposit signed in my name.

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    okay--not a good way to look at it since if you are going halvsies on the deposit, ya'all are going halvsies and he's entitled to his half eventually.

    Okay, here's the actually mathmatical breakdown:
    1200 bond
    +1400 rent thus far (7 weeks)
    =2600 total to be split by the two of you

    Now, PAY ATTENTION; you both are responsible thus far for 1300 EACH
    2600/2=1300

    He paid: 800 bond
    +1200 (six weeks rent)
    +100 (his half of the 7th week)
    = 2100

    2100
    - 800 (what he owed you)
    =1300 <-----his half of the apartment expenses thus far, see above. the # matches

    Now YOU paid 400 bond
    +100 (your half of the 7th week)
    = 500

    Your half of the aparment expenses equals 1300 (same as your bf)

    1300
    - 500
    = 800 <---what he owed you.


    Alright. Now that everyone's crystal clear. Go have makeup sex and stop being idiots

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    BWAHAHAHAHAHA!! I lurve you.

    He already asked me for makeup sex. You pwn.

    *hugs*

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    Whoa, this thread is way confusing, lol.

    Aren't you coming back to USA soon, though?
    If you think school is hard, try being stupid.

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    Only for a visit if NZ doesn't give me my visa.

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