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    Any World Cup fans out there? Games start Friday.

    Here's an interesting tidbit:
    Prostitution is legal in Germany, with about 400,000 people registered in the trade. However, the anticipated World Cup sex-trade boom has also raised fears of an increase in forced prostitution with an estimated 40,000 women from poorer Eastern European countries expected to be heading to Germany for the World Cup.

    Predictions:

    Brazil over England to take the Cup
    (why do they call it a cup, they don't win a cup?)

    USA won't make it the second round.

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    About the only thing that I enjoy about the World Cup is the international flavor of it. Its a true "World Championship" that is played on every continent. I however cringe at the fact that this championship is decided over one of the most boring and unwatchable sports imaginable.

    As for my predictions (and my sarcastic commentary on the sport of soccer):

    USA will go 0-2-1 in pool play and not advance.
    Germany will beat Brazil in the final.
    Of the 64 matches, there will be 30 matches with no more than one goal scored at the end of regulation by both teams.

    Of those 30 matches, 13 will be 0-0 ties.

    Of those 13 0-0 ties, 10 will end up being decided by penalty kicks.


    Any sport where a clock counts upward instead of down sucks.
    Any sport where a period gets "extra time" and is only ended when a referee blows a whistle really sucks.
    Any sport that gets rid of a sudden death overtime rule, and reinstitutes the boring ass format that preceded it, almost ensuring a PK round at the end, well....really, really sucks.

    About the only part of a soccer game, I enjoy watching beside the PK rounds are corner kicks and throw in's where there is a somewhat likely goal potential.

    The sport might be more fun if there was a single goal, half-field format that you could play on a baseball diamond. The goal would sit near home plate and would play similar to half-court basketball.
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    Oh come on doc, how can you not enjoy a good Andres Cantor GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL!!!!!!!!! call?

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    When Brazil won four years ago there was dancing in the streets around Boston and MANY happy Brazilian dancers at the clubs. I think you all know who I'm rooting for...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard_Head
    Oh come on doc, how can you not enjoy a good Andres Cantor GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL!!!!!!!!! call?
    I actually love that call. The problem is that due to the low scoring nature of soccer that AC doesn't get to yell it enough.
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    I would rather watch paint dry than watch a soccer game.
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    This is the first World Cup that we here in Ontario can watch all of the games, if we want to. I doubt I'll watch very many.

    I can watch the key ones tho, because it's being carried on Video-On-Demand, which means that I can watch any game, anytime that I want. I can even pause and resume. Like that's gonna happen!!

    Wonderfull game to play, but boring as FUCK to watch!

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    Me, I'm excited for the World Cup. This will be the second one I've followed since moving to Europe, and the third one I've paid close attention to overall (besides 1994, when the USA hosted, and 2002, when I first arrived in England).

    There's something to be said for watching the absolute *best* compete in any sport. It just so happens that soccer is not a sport where America is considered a power (it's current FIFA ranking of 5th overall notwithstanding). I love watching top-flight matches from the European leagues, and of course the UEFA Champions League (which is a best-of-the-best tournament). But I've tried watching MLS matches on TV, and even an NCAA championship match - but they just lacked the fluidity that is prevalent in the top European leagues.

    I would *love* to see an England/USA final...but that is highly unlikely. I just hope the Americans can get out of the group stage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish
    Of the 64 matches, there will be 30 matches with no more than one goal scored at the end of regulation by both teams.

    Of those 30 matches, 13 will be 0-0 ties.
    And I had to open my big mouth. Halftime of the opening match between Germany and Costa Rica and its already 2-1. Maybe its that new ball they've been talking about.

    But I stand by my prediction.
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    When in Rome.

    Every damn bar in Thailand with good beer also has a Big Screen TV playing soccer or rugby or cricket. If you think soccer is bad you should try watching a cricket match. They last two or three days. I went to one match at a hundred year old club and sat on the veranda and had a gin and tonic and said, “good show and that was a wobbly eh.”

    However since being here I have really been impressed at the worldwide importance of soccer.

    You can ask a Bangkok cab driver who George Bush is or Elvis Presley or Michel Jackson and get a blank stare. But if you mention David Beckham, they all say he number one. I found myself feeling quite left out of things not knowing what every other person I met knew.

    To be honest doc, the first match ended up 4 to 2. Even to my untrained eye it was quite an exciting spectacle.

    I was drinking Old Speckled Hen and Guinness, eating a cottage pie (hamburger, cheese and mashed potatoes, not bad for insulating your stomach against a long drinking bout) and quite enjoying the other people from all over the world who were watching the match with a death like fascination.

    All in all I don’t think soccer is a game to be watched. The World’s cup is an event to be experienced. There is another advantage to watching it in Thailand. The local cable feeds are all in the Thai language and the only place to hear English commentary is in a British Pub with a cable feed from South Africa. Every wife and every significant other gives the English speaking male of the family a free pass till 5 AM every day for the week of the World’s cup.

    They of course have the World’s cup playing on every big screen TV of every strip club in the country till way past closing time. The cops seem to let the clubs skate during this time period also.



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    I don't suspect much that is said here will change anyone's opinion on Soccer. When the World Cup was held in the US several years ago there where two or three games played at Foxboro Stadium near Boston. I was working in a hotel at the time that hosted the Brazilian and Columbian teems for a week at a time. For two weeks there where a dozen satellite trucks outside in our parking lot and a walk through the lobby would have made you think there was a rock star staying on the property. The excitement generated my curiosity and caused me to do something I never thought I would do - actually watch a soccer game! Guess what, I liked it.

    I was stuck in a airport yesterday for three hours and there wasn't a bar TV anywhere in the terminal that wasn't tuned to the World cup.

    Other than the Red Sox winning the World Series in 04', the most fun I've had watching a sporting event in recent memory was in the kitchen of a favorite dancer's apartment along with and assortment of favs and friends. It was a 20" screen with two teams from Brazil battling to a 1-0 finish. I couldn't tell you who won or the names of any of the players. I can tell you that there was good food, good Brazilian beer, friendly but verbose rivalries among the folks watching (me being the neutral party, everyone was trying to sell me on which team I should be rooting for).

    A few years ago I was at a favorite club watching the stage with one eye and the ACLS with the other. A fav came over to chat and, after watching me watching the Red Sox-Yankees for a few minutes promptly asked "Why are they all standing around, what are they waiting for".
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    Our preferences are probably partially dictated by upbringing. Being a Brit, my preferences are the mirror image of most people who've posted.

    Football I'll watch if the game is important enough, (which means I'll probably watch most of the England games in the World Cup).

    American football? I might watch the Superbowl if it's on UK TV, but otherwise I'll pass.

    Baseball - never even worked out the rules, so haven't got a clue what's going on. Great cure for insomnia though.

    I personally like cycling - used to race when I was younger. The most absorbing bit of sport I ever watched on television was the American rider Greg LeMond winning the 1989 Tour de France. He was 50 seconds behind the Frenchman Laurent Fignon at the start of the last stage. This was a time trial, (i.e. a ride against the clock), into Paris.

    LeMond started next to last, and Fignon last in the sequence of riders. The time trial was 25 kilometers, which meant Lemond had to take 2 seconds a kilometer out of Fignon.

    Watching him do just that on live TV was edge of the seat stuff - you could see the split times on the screen. Every minute or so you could see LeMond's lead creeping up by another couple of seconds, but you could also see it was going to be so, so close at the finish. Talk about holding your breath.

    Come to Paris, LeMond had taken 58 seconds out of Fignon, which meant he won a 2,100 mile race by 8 seconds!

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    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish
    Of those 13 0-0 ties, 10 will end up being decided by penalty kicks.
    Wait doc, there's a dumber way to play a 0-0 tie. England beat Paraguay 1-0 and the goal came when Paraguay's Gamarra inadvertently headed in a Beckham kick. It was the first time a 1-0 World Cup game was decided on an own-goal.

    Imagine the Heat beating the Mavs 2-0 on an inadvertant tip-in by Dirk Nowitzki.
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    If football (soccer) allowed off-side plays I guarantee you there would be a lot of scored points.

    The American sports previously mentioned in the thread all pretty much glorify the off-side play: namely, a player runs up the field/court waits for a lobbing pass over the head of the defenders and scores a goal.

    In American football, what they call "off-side" is hardly really off-side. It's rather a defender who moves before the ball is snapped at the line of scrimmage. OTOH, every wide receiver is taught to run up the field get close to the goal line as possible and wait for a pass for a scored goal (which is really a sanctioned off-side play).

    Football (soccer) is a great game because the rules make it difficult to score. So a player must have real skills and not just be an opportunistic "off-sider" (in the football soccer sense) to score.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsWriter2
    Wait doc, there's a dumber way to play a 0-0 tie. England beat Paraguay 1-0 and the goal came when Paraguay's Gamarra inadvertently headed in a Beckham kick. It was the first time a 1-0 World Cup game was decided on an own-goal.
    Yeah, what do you suppose the odds are that some drunken thug who spent his family's meager food budget on gambling will probably kill that poor guy when he gets back to South America.

    Oh, silly me, I didn't dream that up. That actually did happen once.
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    Well, in any respect it goes down as 1-0 in the books. So checking my progress thus far through 6 completed matches:

    1-0 final scores = 2/6 (17/64 predicted)
    0-0 final scores = 1/6 (13/64 predicted)
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    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish
    Oh, silly me, I didn't dream that up. That actually did happen once.
    I had completely forgotten that. At the time I considered it a Colombian thing more than a soccer thing. To me "a soccer thing" was Europeans trampling each other in the stands.

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    I dont follow soccer but I did see a few minutes of the World Cup this morning. I enjoyed the first goal Mexico made against Iran I know Iran tied it up shortly thereafter. I had to go to work so I have no idea who won.

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    i HATE HAAAAAAAAAAAAATE club soccer. but i got absolutely nuts over olympic and world cup soccer. personally, the 0-0 sweden v. trinidad&tobago game was incredibly exciting to me. thats right a game with NO scoring held my attention captive the entire time. soccer is a great game. Lots of skill and strategy involved, much like all the other sports that are popular in the US. and im going to have to agree with JZ, the more you know about it, the more you enjoy it. ignorance of the american spectator definately kills the desire to watch it. but the same could be said for any sport. many find baseball boring, but if you realized all the subtle nuances that you can't see on tv(the center fielder taking 3 steps to the left as the pitch is being throw, because of the pitch selection and the batter at the plate, etc...), youd definately have a much greater appreciation for the game. as it is with soccer in the US. that said, ive only been to TWO New England Revolution games and only because they were packaged with a US women's national team game one time and a Norway v. China WC game the other.

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    Mexico 3 - Iran 1 (final score)

    From what I'm hearing it was a great game.

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    The US national team plays the Czech Republic team tomorrow on ESPN2 at 11:55AM EDT(lunch time for most of us).

    This will be the first game for the US in this world cup.

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    It was a good game. Iran played a very physical first half. The Mexicans looked a little disoriented until they scored the first goal. The second half the Mexicans had possession of the ball most of the time and the Iranians went on the defensive. The Iranian coach appeared to be a Russian and sat stone faced through most of the game. The Mexican coach was very animated and chain smoked through the whole game. That struck me as unusual that it would be shown. How long has it been since you have seen a coach smoking?



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    If the U.S. takes a point from tomorrow's opener, the pressure immediately shifts to Italy. The press is indicating that the CZE has some ailing players and will not be at 100% capacity where the U.S. seems to be running on all cylinders. This is the opportunity the team needs to play some solid football, roll out of the game with a point and a chance not only to advance but to avoid Brazil in game #1 of the elimination phase.

    Prelim reports indicate the U.S. side will start with a 4-5-1 formation with McBride up top and Donovan in the attacking center midfield slot. I'm hoping to see the speedy Convey and Beasley causing havoc on the wings with Reyna in the middle of the midfield diamond and Mastroeni in the defensive center midfield posture.

    This team is expecting to show well and the talent exists for them to place in the top 2 of the Group. It all starts tomorrow by grabbing a point. Crazy to think of all the preparation that comes to a head over the course of a few short hours of play.
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    Aw hell, what a god-awful showing.

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    U.S.A. = Unable to Score at All. No points and a -3 goal differential. They're going to need to run the table now to advance.


    Maybe it was the way the game went, but about halfway through the first half, I found ESPN's announcers so dull and boring that I actually switched the channel over the Univision broadcast. It was in Spanish but at least it sounded halfway lively. Wish I could say the same for our players.
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    It's a steep hill to climb now, they need to beat Italy, beat Ghana, and then hope for help, it can still be done but they'll need to play a lot better than they did today. The Czechs are tough, I've got to give them credit, they were able to capitalize when the opportunities presented themselves, I can see why they are one of the favorites to win the whole thing.

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