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    Can you tell if a dancer is going to give a really hot lapdance before trying her out?

    Do you have some heuristic you employ? Is there something that tips you off?

    Or, is it a total crapshoot? Is a girl who seems outrageously sexy on the floor just as likely to give a lukewarm dance as a smoldering one? Does the mousier girl often stun you with her raw sexual energy in VIP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolina
    Can you tell if a dancer is going to give a really hot lapdance before trying her out?
    Not yet (early in my career), but the uncertainty doesn't bother me, I enjoy the anticipation of finding out.

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    Two things I look for are eye contact and little, gentle, caresses. I'm well aware that these are common weapons in the stripper arsenal, but in my experience I've seldom been disappointed. Additionally I'm quite innocuous, so they feel safe and in control. This can lead to additional naughtiness in VIP if the dancer is so inclined.
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    Default Re: Can you tell...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolina
    Or, is it a total crapshoot? Is a girl who seems outrageously sexy on the floor just as likely to give a lukewarm dance as a smoldering one? Does the mousier girl often stun you with her raw sexual energy in VIP?
    I like the mousey type, so I wouldn't be stunned in that scenario - of course I like every type

    But as to, can you tell?, first off, if the girl doesn't have the looks to attract me, nothing she does in a lap dance could make it a good lap dance.

    As to lukewarm lapdances... I haven't had many of those... hmm, based on the percentages, maybe I can tell... that's funny, I started out this post meaning to say I couldn't...

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    I am throughly convinced (esspecially after my last two home club visits) that there is no surefire sign that guarantees that a gal will give a hot dance, including actual hot dances done with her on a previous visit.

    But I figure imperfect information is better than none, so I just use whatever data I have on a gal and go from there. If I don't have any, I'll tip her at the rail and see how she reacts. If she acts cold and aloof there, there's no need to proceed further. In my mind, the lap dance experience starts long before the actual dancing does.
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    Sure I can tell, I only buy Brazilian.
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    ^And you're never disappointed?
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    Sure, i watch her dance for someone else first

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    Default Re: Can you tell...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolina
    Can you tell if a dancer is going to give a really hot lapdance before trying her out?

    Do you have some heuristic you employ? Is there something that tips you off?

    Or, is it a total crapshoot? Is a girl who seems outrageously sexy on the floor just as likely to give a lukewarm dance as a smoldering one? Does the mousier girl often stun you with her raw sexual energy in VIP?
    It's a total crapshoot. I've experienced both that you've described. I guess that's why I tend to prefer sticking to the same dancers, I like their dependability.

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    The only sure fire way I know that a girl is gonna give me a melt-your-socks kinds dance is if she locks her eyes on me from a mile away, and then saunters over to my table, still locked in, with a perverse little smile across her face......I know that I'm gonna get the ride of my life. Hasn't failed yet,at least so far.

    Other than that particular scenario.....I agree that it is a crapshoot at best.

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    Pure luck and in fact I try to avoid those that try too hard by saying things such as "ready for me to make your dick hard" or a new one that I got recently. "I want your DNA all over my stomach."

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    ^

    how....original.
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    With the contact that goes on here, dance ability is overrated, I just go for the ones that float my boat. It does take dance ability to get past 2 or 3 dances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolina
    Can you tell if a dancer is going to give a really hot lapdance before trying her out? Do you have some heuristic you employ? Is there something that tips you off? Or, is it a total crapshoot?
    unless, a guy got his info in backchannels. unknown strippers are always a crapshoot.
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    Is a girl who seems outrageously sexy on the floor just as likely to give a lukewarm dance as a smoldering one?
    yes. however, some customers buy into the theory that a slutty SD is a strong indication of a slutty LD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolina
    Do you have some heuristic you employ? Is there something that tips you off?
    I can usually recognize secret subs who are trying to be "good girls" for the general customer. No smoke, no tats, on track and in school. They know how to conceal their moves and keep quiet. They say "I love you" so you don't think they're little freaks. But they are.

    I like the ones who catch themselves crawling on stage and then remember to stand up.

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    Nic,

    I never try and tell. *shrug*

    If she puts in the sales effort, gives me good game, earns the right and asks for the business, she will get 1-2 dances. (1 if she is absolutely horrible at it.) If they are good (usually indicating the presence of chemistry) then I will go for more.

    So I have no techique or tip to offer you to avoid hand-wringing, as I never wonder. The absolute best dancer in the club could pass me by all night and I would be fine with that. This is even true if I KNEW she were the best dancer in the club.

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    I used to use her stage performance as a marginal barometer of dance quality, but it's just not reliable. Just recently, I recall an amazingly hot girl at my home club--awesome stage show--who gave really lame, distanced dances. I cut her off at two, which was generous. Then one of my ATFs--who had a mediocre stage presence and performance--gave exceptional dances, and I spent a bundle on her. Still do.

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    Yeah, I asked because I'm finding the same thing: a girl who doesn't do much for me in convo--not super-pretty, not giving off a strong sexual vibe, etc--will end up giving a much hotter dance than a girl who seems really sexy out on the floor. It's interesting.

    Of course, when I say "a hotter dance" I'm not just talking about mileage. I'm talking about some intangible thing that can get me all turned on even in the absence of much contact--I guess Gen would call it chemistry.

    But it's funny how you can't predict it in advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gameover
    Sure, i watch her dance for someone else first
    Here's a rule of thumb. If a dancer disappears for very long stretches with all her customers, she must be doing something right. And if her customers only take her for a couple of dances at a time, she's probably an air queen. Not a foolproof method, but better than a random search.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Snark
    Here's a rule of thumb. If a dancer disappears for very long stretches with all her customers, she must be doing something right. And if her customers only take her for a couple of dances at a time, she's probably an air queen. Not a foolproof method, but better than a random search.
    It's a good rule of thumb but I agree it's not perfect. I know girls who can make a guy splooge in his pants in two dances without using their hands or any orifice.
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    Default Re: Can you tell...?

    It's all trial and error for me. I have yet to find a correllation between the quality of a VIP and a girl's stage show, outfit, sales pitch, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gameover
    Sure, i watch her dance for someone else first
    gamekiller.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Snark
    Here's a rule of thumb. If a dancer disappears for very long stretches with all her customers, she must be doing something right. And if her customers only take her for a couple of dances at a time, she's probably an air queen. Not a foolproof method, but better than a random search.
    yeah, i mentioned that one before in another thread. however, the danger is that she just could be giving lame laps to her regulars.
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    ^^^
    Or, if she comes back after 2 or 3 it could just be that she finished them off in two songs.
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    It's the convo that tips me off more than anything else. You can tell if they're nervous about contact and 'having fun' with you real quick. (talking about chemistry between two people, not being judgmental)

    A) If she's nervous and only talks about herself (or much worse yet, her friends) then she's obviously nervous about what you and every other dancer/customer/friend thinks about her. Lame dance surely to ensue, regardless of how 'hot' her stage dance is. A 'hot' stage dance followed by her insisting on talking about her latest shopping spree or how much fun she had with her friends at the club last night is the tell tale sign of a coke whore bitch looking to play you.

    B) If she's nervous and asks you real questions about yourself and offers up her own gems in response, chances are she's a relative newbie. Take care with the newbie as they eventually end up as either A or C depending upon a lot of factors including how you and other custies treat her. The newbie is looking for a "safe" customer who behaves himself, is polite and never offended, and lets the dancer explore her own sexuality with him. Let her take control and enjoy witnessing her exploration. The newbie who finds her newfound love of the occasional reverse cowboy cock grinding on the hot guy who seems indifferent is a wonderful experience which every man should endure.

    C) If she's confident and talks a little about herslef while complimenting you, chances are she's a real pro. She's gone through the full range of dancer B experiences and can fake them with just about anyone, whether they're hot or not. Feel free to find ways to suggest what you like and she'll always find a way to please. And you'll always think she actually liked it. (which she may have, but it may have been her just revisiting the first time she allowed herself to enjoy it with the really hot ambilivent guy).


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Snark
    Here's a rule of thumb. If a dancer disappears for very long stretches with all her customers, she must be doing something right. And if her customers only take her for a couple of dances at a time, she's probably an air queen.
    Or she could be working in a club where doing about two dances for a customer is usually standard. Most guys who buy dances around here seldom go beyond three.

    Besides, if she's gonna be preoccupied with other customers for a long stretch, I don't care how hot a dance she gives. I'm not going to sit around waiting for her. Next please!
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