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    Hey there,
    I was the cute blonde by the bar whose leg you kept rubbing and admiring how smooth my skin is and how do I keep it that way?
    You said you wanted to get a dance, but needed to use the rest room first and then left me waiting at the bar as you slipped out the door.
    I would like to know if you would ever want that to happen to you either in the club by a dancer or at your own job by a customer or boss.
    That was rude to waste my time and I dont believe I did anything to provoke you. I hope you come back in one more time because you owe me a dance and a hefty tip for your rudeness.
    Please don't lick me, it tickles..



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    Could also be down to the fact the guy didn't want really a dance and was a bit embarassed to say so.

    There's always a slight air of unreality when you talk to a dancer. Both you and she know she's going to ask you for a dance, but you both politely pretend it's just a normal conversation.

    Sometimes, (and particularly when you know the dancer doesn't want another "no" answer because she's getting dispirited at negative answers), it can be a little hard to actually say no thanks.

    Maybe this guy wimped out of saying no?

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    I just thought it was a bit much to say yes (no, I didn't pressure him and I rarely come across as dispirited, I was having a pretty good night), and then he basically walks out the front door. Our men's room is located in the front of the building.. I know, genius, right?
    He had no reason to be as rude as that. He asked me over, I already had my own drink and there was no pressure to get a dance..
    Ugh, just say no.. Don't lie and don't leave me hanging at the bar waiting for your dumbass to never come back.
    Please don't lick me, it tickles..



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    SOP procedure of a typical freeloader asshole. Cop as many free feels as he can, string the gir(s) along, then skedaddle. Whenever a guy starts copping a feel on me before I've even asked for a dance, I know he's a piece of shit I need to walk away from

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    heh heh, I was about to when he agreed to the dance.. I don't care to be touched, but I was in a good mood so I humored him.. My mistake, always be mean.. ha ha
    I'm kidding!
    I usually run whenever I have a guy touch me, but he wasn't really groping the way some do and since he agreed to the dance as we were sitting there (15 mins at most) I really wasn't being too worried. It's the fact that I actually waited for him to return from the bathroom that really has my panties in a bunch.
    I have no idea why the owner renovated and put the mensroom right by the front door.. NOT A SMART IDEA
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    Yeah, I agree about placement of the mens room. It should always be far in the back IMO. Putting it by the front door allows them to have second thoughts and escape too easily. If they have to walk to the back to use the loo, then walk all the way back through the club before exiting, they can't just change their little minds while tinkling then run out lickity-split. You can approach them on their way back and lead them off to the lapdances. Also, if they head in the direction of the front instead of back toward the bathroom, well it's obvious they're leaving.

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    GG, if it ever got to the point where you were permissive enough to let me touch your legs, trust me you will be making a sale, perhaps several.
    Better yet, you do the touching. Hint: When at a SC, I don't go anywhere near the bar.


    I'm sorry some ding-a-ling wasted your time, and yes that was rude of him.



    Although, it should be stated that I've written a few rants on here myself about asking a gal for a dance while she's on stage, who immediately agrees, but then for some reason she walks off into the abyss (to the dressing room, or the lazy dancer's table, or ironically enough to the bar) like she forgot.

    I end up turning down other girls and looking like a cheap stage gawker in the meantime when I didn't intend to. That's not just a waste of her time, but my time, and the time of every gal whom I had to turn down.
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    I agree with Doc. I have had that happen to me. a few months ago I asked a girl for a dance while she was onstage and the next thing I know she is in her "street" clothes leaving the club with another dancer. It was rude of the customer to leave you hanging but I guess there is BS from both sides at times with the custy's and the strippers. Just goes with the job I suppose.

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    Thanks for your opinion, I pormise to try and remember any guy that asked for a dance or even hinted at one.. I always thank guys for tipping me and the only time I avoid one or "run away" is when he was super skeevy and trust me, he knows I tihnk that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpac73
    I agree with Doc. I have had that happen to me. a few months ago I asked a girl for a dance while she was onstage and the next thing I know she is in her "street" clothes leaving the club with another dancer. It was rude of the customer to leave you hanging but I guess there is BS from both sides at times with the custy's and the strippers. Just goes with the job I suppose.
    Yeah, I've seen other girls pull that shit and that really gets me...I mean, if you bitch all the time about guys saying "maybe later", why would you do the same to a guy who wants a dance from you? I mean, not to sound crass or nothing- but that's easy money you're fucking throwing away there!!! What the fuck?!? I just think that the majority of the chicks I work with don't understand the proper meaning of the following words: work ethic, decency, couth, and courtesy. I mean, jsut tell the guy you've gotta leave after your set and give him your card or something, and apologize. Makes sense to me.

    But, on the ranting kick about rude ass custys- if you say you're going out to your car/truck/vehicle to get some money- fucking mean it...I mean, I've lost track of the times I'll walk up to the front with a guy who says that, and stand and watch the bastard drive off. My "favorite" was this guy who said he had to go out to his truck to get the money and I see him drive off on a Harley! Hey, if you're not interested, just tell me...I got so tired of that, I took another girl's advice, and started asking guys who said they needed to go to their car for $20 to keep me off rotation...guys that were hesitant to do so were usually an indication that they were lying...and those that didn't come back- hey, I got $20!
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    We all must remember the word CHAUVINIST.

    While a lot of men don't have much disposable income, many men just don't respect women, and always want to feel they have the upper hand with us. They see us as stupid and flaky, They feel buying dances from us is throwing their money away. They want sex and or dating from us.

    As one ASPD moderator from Houston once posted, "If extras stopped becoming readily available in the clubs, and the clubs reverted back to being all about buying dances and tipping on stage (this is Houston I am talking about), I probably will stop going to strip clubs."

    We have to remember the basics. Men are dominators and we are submitors. It is status for a man to discuss how many women he "wins over" and fucks. We are seen as undesireable if we behave the same way a man does. A girl who puts out is desireable as a prostitute, but undesireable as a girlfriend or wife.

    Thats why a lot of men see us as bitches just trying to take their money. They don't want their wife or girlfriend working in a club but they should be free to go to a club whenever they want. These guys know how they are in a club and with women they are horny for, and therefore assume all men are like themselves and will be able to win over their woman.

    I have had some guys come back with the money. Some guys feel they will overspend and succumb to temptation if they bring over a certain amount of money in a club, while others have no intention of giving a stripper any money.

    A lot of these guys also have probably blown more than their share of money on dances and regretted it later, and don't want to come out and say they can't afford any dances.

    I'll never forget seeing an older white guy in a navy blue blazer counting his last dollars at the end of the night at a strip club in El Paso. He obviously overspent. At the end of the night I saw him walking down the entrance ramp to the freeway. I guess the club broke him, LOL.

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    I try to make sure my custies always have cab fare or gas money home..
    I always want to be one of the nice ones that are referred to by friends.. and it happens..
    I just hate insensitivity.. You owe me nothing when you come in the club, but don't intentionally be mean, rude or downright crude.
    I am an entertainer, let me entertain!
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    GG, I think that guy was at my club last week, too. I waited whiel he went potty, and when he game back, he had a big sotry about how he had gotten an important phone call and had to go. H tipped me a whole dollar for a backrub, and then raced out the door!

    Where do these guys come from? (Facetious question, plese nobody take it literally and try to answer.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tina
    We all must remember the word CHAUVINIST.

    We have to remember the basics. Men are dominators and we are submitors. It is status for a man to discuss how many women he "wins over" and fucks. We are seen as undesireable if we behave the same way a man does. A girl who puts out is desireable as a prostitute, but undesireable as a girlfriend or wife.
    At the risk of going slightly off topic, I think some of this is down to evolution and biological imperatives.

    When we evolved, we tended to be a hunter/gatherer society. Men did the hunting and other more physical jobs, so tended to need a larger body mass. Women did the gathering, and hence tended to be physically smaller as strength was not required. (OK, it's far more complex than this, but you get the gist).

    We've also tended to evolve in a way that gives our genes the best way of surviving down the generations.

    For a man, the best strategy getting as many women pregnant as possible. That means there will be lots of children, each of whom will have the oportunity to pass on their genes in turn.

    For a woman, the best alternative is to find the best mate, (physical strength, looks and brains). That because investing in a child takes 9 months of her time, so it makes sense to equip that child with the best possible tools to survive in the world, and hence pass on their genes.

    The strategies do vary according to sex. For a man to get a woman pregnant is a matter of minutes, while for a woman to bear a child is 9 months. Each strategy is optimum for that sex.

    I'm not for a moment trying to excuse dumbass behaviour by the more neanderthal of my bretheren, just trying to show there might be complex roots to the way we behave.

    We evolved over many hundreds of thousands of years - and how long has it been since women achieved something like equality in Western society? 50 years? Evolution's got a pretty deep roots!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil-W
    At the risk of going slightly off topic, I think some of this is down to evolution and biological imperatives. [...long well-considered argument...]
    Yes, but we, as a society and individually, think we're far above mere evolution and biological imperatives now. And how does one account for the individuals who seem not to follow these instincts? I mean we, well most of us, males were given enough intelligence and sociability to realize that pumping any attractive woman full of our seed, by force or not, will bring along a LOT of trouble. So we have our fantasies - imagination, porn, stripclubs. Is this also part of our biological heritage? Maybe this is for another thread in the Lounge.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tina

    As one ASPD moderator from Houston once posted, "If extras stopped becoming readily available in the clubs, and the clubs reverted back to being all about buying dances and tipping on stage (this is Houston I am talking about), I probably will stop going to strip clubs."
    Ya know, I know all about it being impossible to close Pandora's box, etc. But the more I think about such statements, the more I think it wouldn't be such a great loss if this actually happened. There would most definitely be a short term slump, just as there was when the clubs initially went from showplaces to dirty.

    The customers who USED to enjoy going to strip clubs for the ENTERTAINMENT, mostly stopped coming around because of the sleaze factor. They were REAPLACED by guys who otherwise would have been out hunting their cheap pussy on the streets. Considering this, I think that, after an initial rough time, if all clubs reverted back, it is highly possible, maybe even probable, that the TYPE of customer would replace itself again. There's a reason that burlesque shows and theme contests still draw crowds!!! It's because it's fun and entertaining.

    I have most certainly heard more than a few guys of late actually COMPLAINING that clubs aren't fun like they used to be. Because they're NOT. They've become cheap dirty places where whoremongers go looking for cheap thrills, and where girls are literally wary of being molested, abused, cheapened, taken advantage of, beaten and even murdered. Frankly, I have no interest in entertaining whoremongers. Get rid of them I say

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette
    The customers who USED to enjoy going to strip clubs for the ENTERTAINMENT, mostly stopped coming around because of the sleaze factor. They were REAPLACED by guys who otherwise would have been out hunting their cheap pussy on the streets.
    It really isn't the sleaze factor per se thats the problem. A few gals performing extras aren't likely to upset things. But its when an extras culture has so ingrained itself in a club that a significant segment of the dancers adapt their hustle to tailor to customers seeking extras. If a gal is willing to give HJ's and BJ's in the back room and can command a significant premium for them, she's not likely going to want to be dealing with a guy who just wants some plain vanilla $20 dances. Soon the non-extras customer realizes that although he may have brought $300-500 in with him, and that he's being offered the moon, he's being pressured to spend it all on one girl.

    And that non-extras customer probably also comes to realize that such clubs tend to have higher incidences of illicit drug use, ROB's, and visits from the local vice unit. Sometimes its just easier to stay out of those clubs than try to traverse the minefield that they often are.

    Considering this, I think that, after an initial rough time, if all clubs reverted back, it is highly possible, maybe even probable, that the TYPE of customer would replace itself again. There's a reason that burlesque shows and theme contests still draw crowds!!! It's because it's fun and entertaining.
    It might work if that "clean" type of club doesn't resort to becoming just the opposite problem. A club that has an environment that is pretentious and often sterile. Unfortunately, in a lot of these upscale low contact establishments with these uber-expensive VIP rooms this is often the case.

    In my experience, where I often find the cheeriest crowds, and the most fun environment is often in these mid-scale establishments where there is a proper balance between presenting entertainers who are not only pleasing to the eye but are friendly to interact with socially and to a moderated extent phsically, and where the price to interact for a song or two is within most people's budgets.
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