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    I havent been dancing for long, but lately I have been getting more and more annoyed with people wanting (demanding) to give me their 'advice'.

    Usually I would appreciate this sort of thing, but these people are pulling me off to the side to have 10 minute conversations with me about the same old shit (smile, talk to the customers, blah blah blah the most obvious, common sense stuff!). Many times they have done this WHILE I was in the middle of talking to a customer!

    I wouldnt even mind so much if it were the dancers themselves advising me- but I'm getting all this from the MALE employees!

    There is one DJ/Bouncer that I swear thinks he would be the worlds greatest dancer if only he were born with a vagina. I fucking hate this guy. He is constantly pulling me away from customers or making me late for my stage set by going on and on and on about the most obvious shit. He is one of those people that love to hear themselves talk, and can have a 10 minute conversation without the other person saying a word.

    There is another bouncer who does the same thing, but the first one is just ridiculous. My last shift he did something which I found wildly ridiculous- what do you guys think of this:

    I was giving a LD to a customer, and finished. On my way up to give the bouncer his (the clubs) cut, he came over into the LD area and told my customer to sit back down. The customer began to protest but he literally pushed his shoulder and said 'nah nah sit back down'. Then he proceeded to sit on the couch next to us and COACH me through a lap dance!!

    He was actually saying shit like- 'now put your legs over him like that, go slower, no raise up, touch his head etc.'

    !!!!!

    Afterwards the customer was obviously freaked out by the experience (who the fuck wants a huge bouncer sitting right next to them during a dance?) and left soon afterwards.

    At first, I thought he was just trying to help me out by getting me another dance. But then he didnt even charge the guy for the second dance, so I didnt get paid! I can understand not charging the customer for such a WEIRD and UNCOMFORTABLE experience, but I still did two dances. And the fact that he wasnt trying to be sly and make me more $$ makes it even more baffeling as to why he would do such a thing!

    This guy is SO pushy, I didnt even have a chance to get out of this little instruction session. I am getting really sick of this shit. As if all that werent enough, I was actually up after the girl who was on stage at the time, which would have been ok if I had given one dance as I intended, but this second dance made me VERY late getting back on stage, and there was a long, awkward silence in the club until I could get my ass up there.

    What an ass!

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    Thats.... just insane.
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    I would seriously consider changing clubs.
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    I actually use the 'DJ as coach' approach, however...

    You never, ever interfere with a dancer while she's talking to a customer, and especially not when she's dancing for him, wrapping it up, whatever. the only exception I'll make is if I've called her onstage, she's not in VIP, and has either not heard me or is pretending not to. then I go to the table and tell her--but this is the only time I would ever interpose.

    Also, you don't give advice to someone who doesn't want to hear it--it destroys the effectiveness of it, so what's the point?

    This guy is an idiot. Is management aware of what he's doing? They should be...
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    It isnt necessarily that I dont want advice- it's just that I find it a little absurd when someone who will never know what it is like to be a dancer will not stop giving advice. I'm also a little weirded out by his not so hidden desire to be a stripper himself, and his not so subtle implications that if he WERE a dancer, he would be the best, richest dancer EVER!

    I cant get away from him either. He never shuts up!

    Again...what an ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by someonesmiles
    I would seriously consider changing clubs.
    I second that. Your whole situation there is just kinda creepy...
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    This has got to be the most bizarre story I've heard yet concerning inappropriate behavior from male staff. Usually they're just dogs, or arrogant pricks, lol...

    I think you hit it, when you surmised he'd like to be a dancer himself. Get his ass out of that club, he's making you all look like idiots!

    Not to mention costing you money. Jesus...
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    This seems to be a trend in two clubs I used to attend on a regular basis. Now I'm looking for new ones.

    I love the male workers who feel the need to chime in and tell dancers and custy's how to behave. (sic)

    I have a rule where I never put my hands on a gal, unless she asks. A gal who's danced for me a couple of times asked and I put my hand on her shoulder (in the VIP!) to make her more comfortable because she didn't like dancing for a flailing trout. A young bouncer with spiked highlighted hair quickly interjected saying "hey buddy, keep your hands to yourself!" and forceably took my hand off her.

    I knew what was going on, but the dancer felt she needed to apologize for two songs for the lame bouncer, claiming he had a 'crush' on her and has a reputation for being a bouncer only so he could date strippers (and none have taken him up on it yet).

    I've found male strip club management to be interspersed with those numbers and schedules guys who seem to keep the club 'active' at the righ t times (those who focus on the fact that Wed was not an NBA game night and Thurs was) and those lame guys who feel they need to control the relationship between dancer and customer.

    It's a good thing to protect dancers. I've even tried when sitting next to a guy who was clearly getting out of hand. But the best SC I've visited had a 'special sign' that dancers used to let the bouncers/management know they needed someone to intervene. It can be as subtle a rule as "always keep your hand on the edge of the table when dancing, when you feel uncomfortable in any way and want us to intervene, place your palm clearly in the middle of the table".

    Personally, I'm glad I'm a big guy and only have to suffer the lameness of those managers and bouncers who feel threatened when the one dancer(s) they have crushes on openly shows she likes me. While I see more customer abuse than male SC worker abuse, I think the male SC worker abuse is much worse to the industry.

    Seriously, I bought two dances from the lamest dancer in the club who I knew got a recommendation to approach me from the same, lame, PL bouncer who intervened before - only to appease the lout as "being in control" of his own little fantasy world where he defines who likes what and what's appropriate. If I ever see him OTC, I'll find it really hard to resist the temptation to beat him to death.

    Someone had a great post on the reasons why bouncers chose their jobs, and it certainly isn't for money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harlequinn
    I havent been dancing for long, but lately I have been getting more and more annoyed with people wanting (demanding) to give me their 'advice'.

    Usually I would appreciate this sort of thing, but these people are pulling me off to the side to have 10 minute conversations with me about the same old shit (smile, talk to the customers, blah blah blah the most obvious, common sense stuff!). Many times they have done this WHILE I was in the middle of talking to a customer!

    I wouldnt even mind so much if it were the dancers themselves advising me- but I'm getting all this from the MALE employees!

    There is one DJ/Bouncer that I swear thinks he would be the worlds greatest dancer if only he were born with a vagina. I fucking hate this guy. He is constantly pulling me away from customers or making me late for my stage set by going on and on and on about the most obvious shit. He is one of those people that love to hear themselves talk, and can have a 10 minute conversation without the other person saying a word.

    There is another bouncer who does the same thing, but the first one is just ridiculous. My last shift he did something which I found wildly ridiculous- what do you guys think of this:

    I was giving a LD to a customer, and finished. On my way up to give the bouncer his (the clubs) cut, he came over into the LD area and told my customer to sit back down. The customer began to protest but he literally pushed his shoulder and said 'nah nah sit back down'. Then he proceeded to sit on the couch next to us and COACH me through a lap dance!!

    He was actually saying shit like- 'now put your legs over him like that, go slower, no raise up, touch his head etc.'

    !!!!!

    Afterwards the customer was obviously freaked out by the experience (who the fuck wants a huge bouncer sitting right next to them during a dance?) and left soon afterwards.

    At first, I thought he was just trying to help me out by getting me another dance. But then he didnt even charge the guy for the second dance, so I didnt get paid! I can understand not charging the customer for such a WEIRD and UNCOMFORTABLE experience, but I still did two dances. And the fact that he wasnt trying to be sly and make me more $$ makes it even more baffeling as to why he would do such a thing!

    This guy is SO pushy, I didnt even have a chance to get out of this little instruction session. I am getting really sick of this shit. As if all that werent enough, I was actually up after the girl who was on stage at the time, which would have been ok if I had given one dance as I intended, but this second dance made me VERY late getting back on stage, and there was a long, awkward silence in the club until I could get my ass up there.

    What an ass!
    It's bulls**t. My last favorite club had a ass for a limo driver and when he didn't have driving to do, he'd **ck with the dancers, and leer while I was getting a dance. The last thing I want to see out of the corner of my eye with a girl on me is some Luis Guzman look-a-like (but yet beaten by a ugly stick, no wait, ran through an ugly forest with every branch hitting his face)leering at me.
    His last scam before I quit going there was selling these $10 roses for the girls, and he'd try to get me to buy one right in the uh, afterglow of a nice LD.
    It would be like making love to your SO and then turning on the teevee and seeing Ann Coulter.
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    Holy CRAP! That is really screwed up. I would've started ignoring his ass, and telling him to back off long before it got this far. Precisely the kind of guy who, if you don't DIScourage him, he takes it as ENcouragement and goes way too far. Perhaps you could talk to management about this also. You should definitely not be putting with this shit.

    Otherwise, find another club.

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    I'd ask them if u need to pay them for their advice. I'm just a bitch though. People...
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    My last favorite club had a ass for a limo driver and when he didn't have driving to do, he'd **ck with the dancers, and leer while I was getting a dance.
    UGH! That's ANOTHER thing! This guy KEEPS calling me over to watch other girls giving lapdances with him. I find that SO creepy. He says things like "Watch her, see how she goes slow, see how she puts her breasts in his face etc." I feel really bad for the girl giving a dance when he does this, because I know I would be creeped out with that guy sitting on the sidelines giving commentary to another girl while I was dancing.

    Although it's still creepy because I know he watches me CLOSELY while I'm dancing because after every one, he gives me 'pointers' or some other comment like 'getting better!'

    It's pretty obvious that this guy takes pleasure watching the girls LD. Is this normal for bouncers??

    It pisses me off. The customers dont get a free dance. This creep shouldnt be getting a free show.

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    this guy sounds like he takes his job WAY too seriously. have you spoken to management about him? have any other girls expressed having an issue with his behaviour??

    he sounds like a total fucking creep, and you've got every right to feel uncomfortable with someone doing that shit to you. i know that i'd certainly be freaked out by it.

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    What a pervert! Why don't you just NOT go over there when he calls you, tell him you're busy making your OWN money... You know, the stuff you TIP him with. Have you TOLD him he's creeping out the custys? Make sure he knows creeped out custys or you = bad dances = less money = he's lucky for the $1 tip he gets at the end of the night.
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    What a freak! The next time he calls you over to watch a dance or give you a pep talk, just walk away. In the meantime, I'd be looking for another club...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bella21
    What a pervert! Why don't you just NOT go over there when he calls you, tell him you're busy making your OWN money... You know, the stuff you TIP him with. Have you TOLD him he's creeping out the custys? Make sure he knows creeped out custys or you = bad dances = less money = he's lucky for the $1 tip he gets at the end of the night.
    This is what I was thinking. Just be "busy" when he wants to momopolize your time. IF you don't want to tell him to go fuck himself, jsut say, "Sweetie, hold that thought. I have to go talk to somebody." Or, "I have to pee REALLY bad." Who can argue with that.

    Then jsut stay busy and never get back to him. Don't let him mess with youro your money. Just avoind him.


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    *hugs* I've actually worked with guys like that..They never bugged me, but they went after the new "young" ones.
    One guy actually convinced a girl to let him hold her money for her, hmm.. kept getting less and less. So, I took it from her, put it in a plastic bag and kept it in my locker..
    The guy actually had the nerve to approach me about it. I told him I wasn't about to touch her money so why is he so concerned? And then he yelled at me, so I got a manager.. what a wannabe pimp. And he's the one that watched our lap dances..
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    i would seriously just tell him to shut the fuck up and mind his own business. what the hell. stand up for yourself and tell him you are busy and dont want to talk to him and tell him if he knows how to ladpance so well to go find a chippendales or something and to let you do your job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colleen
    "Sweetie, hold that thought. I have to go talk to somebody." Or, "I have to pee REALLY bad." Who can argue with that.
    How about, "I gotta find a tampon"? He'll probaly leave you alone for days after saying that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by candygrrl
    i would seriously just tell him to shut the fuck up and mind his own business. what the hell. stand up for yourself and tell him you are busy and dont want to talk to him and tell him if he knows how to ladpance so well to go find a chippendales or something and to let you do your job.
    Sounds like something I would say

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    Omg, i know that this is really a bizarre situation but when i first read your post i was speed reading and i actually thought that the bouncer was atually demonstrating the dance himself!!! LMAO
    Next time he starts giving you pointers just say, "Honey, im not sure quite what you mean, would you mind demonstrating on my next customer for me?" X

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    Sounds kind of gayish to me.

    .....mention that you did'nt know he enjoyed watching men have (fantasy)sex. And that half your customers think he is gay for watching. Then fill out a few trial subscriptions to gay magazines in his name with the club address. Get some guy/gay friends to call up to the club every other day, leaving messages with the staff, for him to meet them at the local gay bars or crying that baby >Raggot< is missing again....
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    I agree with those who said tell him to go fuck himself, however if you are worried about causing problems just tell him you appreciate the previous advice but you are doing fine and don't need any more.

    If the polite way does'nt work try "go fuck yourself" LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WiseGuy_TX
    Sounds kind of gayish to me.

    .....mention that you did'nt know he enjoyed watching men have (fantasy)sex. And that half your customers think he is gay for watching. Then fill out a few trial subscriptions to gay magazines in his name with the club address. Get some guy/gay friends to call up to the club every other day, leaving messages with the staff, for him to meet them at the local gay bars or crying that baby >Raggot< is missing again....
    I'll do it! I have a good Paul Lynde impression.

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