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    Well the whole book is worth its weight in diamonds I think. I know there's been a thread before on "How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Carnegie (as recommended by Dancerwealth- thank you!!). This one tip that i used last night- I was shocked how well it worked.

    This one guy, very drunk and not very rational, tried to rip me off. After three dances he tried to only pay me $40, then $50. I said "No, three dances, that's sixty dollars please". I saw in his hand he had enough cash, but he was just all out refusing. I started to say "Now don't make me get my manager" and "you really need to pay me what you owe". Not working of course, and I could tell he was gonna push past me and scram any second.

    Then I remembered that tip "people are only interested in their own desires...they will only do things they WANT to do". So I tried to think up a way to word what I was saying to make it in HIS best interest. I said "you should really pay me the full amount, because if you don't, it will be nearly impossible for you to get another dance here again. I will have to tell all the other girls you don't pay. And it will also be really hard for you to get any drinks or anything either, because I'll have to tell the waitresses and bartenders the same thing. You want to have more dances and come here again, right?".

    Then poof, he paid me. I was shocked, he was so stubborn before. What's more, he was all nice about it. He left me very amicably (for a very drunk guy). So maybe that method is common sense, but I was so happy with it. The way to never get ripped off again!

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    lol i'lll have to try that

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    Great advice Molly. In some other types of sales programs I teach, I touch base on this system quite a bit (doesn't always have an application in this industry so we don't teach it in the DW seminar). I refer to it as turning up the pain by giving some pleasure. In other words, when you want some people to take action, you have to show there is some pain in the situation that's causing distress in their lives. This could be on a major level or even a minor level such as not being allowed to come back to your club. So when you demonstrate the pain, you then explain the pleausure...in your case that you do, in fact, need to get paid or the pain will increase. Awesome advice you gave...great stuff!

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    That makes sense. Great job keeping your cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mollyzmoon
    I said "you should really pay me the full amount, because if you don't, it will be nearly impossible for you to get another dance here again. I will have to tell all the other girls you don't pay. And it will also be really hard for you to get any drinks or anything either, because I'll have to tell the waitresses and bartenders the same thing. You want to have more dances and come here again, right?".

    Then poof, he paid me. I was shocked, he was so stubborn before. What's more, he was all nice about it. He left me very amicably (for a very drunk guy). So maybe that method is common sense, but I was so happy with it. The way to never get ripped off again!
    Great tip Molly, now we just need that translated into Spanish for those gals that aren't perfectly fluent. In my experience, the guys that don't want to pay...mysteriously no speakee Enngleesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by mollyzmoon
    After three dances he tried to only pay me $40, then $50. I said "No, three dances, that's sixty dollars please". I saw in his hand he had enough cash, but he was just all out refusing.
    The same thing happened to me on Fri. Unfortunately, I went to my manager who had no success getting it out of him.

    He said the guy got scared and started running down the side of the freeway. I still get a little giggle thinking of this assh*le tourist in a suit hightailing it on foot from the parking lot- looking over his shoulder, as my manager shakes his fist, "I'll get you, nobody steals from my girls!!!"

    In the future I will use this tip though.

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    haha I hate the guys that play off like they speak no english!!! The asains guys especially.. they will upright ignore you when you heard them speak english.. the will IN ENGLISH say I don't speak english.. sorry.

    URGHHH One of my bouncers had a shirt on last night and it had uncle sam on it and it said I wasnt YOU to speak english it was really funny
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    Yeah that book is awesome. I've been going on & off from reading it for a while. I really need to finish it. It's funny that the guy who recommended it to me was a really cool customer.

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    something similar happened to me last night at the very end of the night, so I couldn't threaten to get him thrown out.....but I pretended like I didn't understand why he'd give me a $10 with a half-hearted, "that's all I got" when a dance was $20. Dumb blonde saved the day, but I think I'll try this next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustJayda
    Great tip Molly, now we just need that translated into Spanish for those gals that aren't perfectly fluent. In my experience, the guys that don't want to pay...mysteriously no speakee Enngleesh
    LOL! Jayda, every time this happened with the Latin guys, the girls would come get me to translate (if I was nearby and not occupied). I'd be like, "No, papi. Tu la debes ochenta. Tuviste cuatro bailes de'lla, verdad? Pues, dale ochenta porfa." (No, you owe her 80. You got four dances from her right? Well, give her 80 please.)

    What could they do then? Give up that dough, baby!!
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    thankfully we have to take all money before we even start the dance. keeps us safe from such arseholes - especially as some blokes just don't have the money on them!

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    I read that book and it got me out of a ticket one time. I was driving very impatiently and didn't know a cop was behind me. Well someone was driving really slow infront of me and turned right really really slow into a parking lot. I was of course screaming and yelling to hurry up and as they were turning right, I swerved over a double yellow line a little to pass. The cop pulled me over, was yelling at me and everything. I thought I was dead for sure. When he asked me what my excuse was for doing it, I said "I honestly don't have an excuse, it was a stupid thing to do, I was in a hurry and shouldn't have done that. You were fully right to pull me over". He instantly changed his mood and then instead of yelling, turned into the more concerned person like you need to be careful, you could kill yourself or someone else. I couldn't believe it!!! He let me go, no ticket! Yeah, I use those skills a lot in that book. Probably the best book I've ever read in my life!

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    hmm, Ive read it a few ago, but I think im too dense to figure how to apply it...
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    in response to molly's story, it sure is suprising how well talking to adults (especially men) like they are little children works! it baffles me every time.

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    I do it automatically, especially when they are being "naughty." I actaully slap their hands and say "mustn't touch!" just as if they were 2. But I slap HARD!

    I also say "AH, AH, AH!" when they are about to grab something they shouldn't.

    Maybe I do this b/c I went back to work wehn my son was 2. But it is simple and it establishes your authority.


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