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    Okay, here's the deal. After I finished my undergrad, I've dated a couple of girls, two of them being dancers. Though this is a generalization, I've found dancers to be pretty sexually liberal, and I like talking to someone I can have a conversation about sex with without embarrassment. A lot of the women's studies majors I was friends with and dated while in college were really sexually liberal, and it was nice not to have to worry about being frank about it. Any recommendations on how to meet dancers (or just women who are sexually liberated) without getting that backlash from dancers about "oh you just want to date a stripper."?

    Another dancer on this site who's a friend of mine recommended I post to this forum and see if other dancers had some ideas.
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    A) You're right. That is a generalization, and you clearly do "oh just want to date a stripper".
    B) Why, yes. I do have a suggestion:
    i) Meet a girl
    ii) initiate a conversation with girl about a topic that you think most women would be unliberated (honestly, I have no idea what you mean by this)
    iii) if the woman is as frank and honest as you desire, (a) ask her out. (b) Hope she says yes. If she does not, repeat i through iii(a) with someone new. If she does not answer as per your requirements, do not ask her out.

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    Default Re: *not* how to date a stripper, sort of

    Jenny, you took the words right out of my mouth, err.....I mean post! LOL! What's up with people posting on here asking for advice like that. I may be a stripper but that doesn't mean that I'm sexually liberated.

    One more thing to add, find a dancer you like, take her back to the VIP room, spend several hundred dollars on her so you can talk about sex and not feel embarrasment about it and keep going back to see her each week in the VIP room and continue to give her several hundred dollars each time you go. As long as the Benjamin's are coming, she'll listen, just don't be a jerk and expect to touch her! There you go, you have a beautiful woman/dancer that you met, that you can talk frank about sex with without embarrasment!! Problem solved!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vertigo777
    Okay, here's the deal. After I finished my undergrad, I've dated a couple of girls, two of them being dancers. Though this is a generalization, I've found dancers to be pretty sexually liberal, and I like talking to someone I can have a conversation about sex with without embarrassment. A lot of the women's studies majors I was friends with and dated while in college were really sexually liberal, and it was nice not to have to worry about being frank about it. Any recommendations on how to meet dancers (or just women who are sexually liberated) without getting that backlash from dancers about "oh you just want to date a stripper."?

    Another dancer on this site who's a friend of mine recommended I post to this forum and see if other dancers had some ideas.
    Anyone working in the sex industry is normally ok with the topic of sex. Though generalizing is O.K. This does not mean every single one of them is going to entertaine a sexual comment 5 minutes into the conversation.

    Suggestion:
    Go outside. Meet people. Anywhere is fine. Be interesting regardless of the topic. If the conversation goes well, suggest meeting some place more personal. Make the date, move on. If she doesn't show up repeat cycle. The fun of dating is in the possibility of rejection. By asking for a "Secret Handshake" of how to date anyone dancers or whatever you're really saying "How can I get to the bed as soon as possible using the path of least resistance"

    Not going to happen. What gets jenny into bed doesn't get girlx into bed. However, I'm 99% sure they would be interested in having a conversation with you if you approached them with respect and don't bring up sex within the first conversation. And I am 100% sure they'd talk to you about sex and all types of it and even be amazed at how open minded and incredibly unique you are as long as you're paying per song.

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    Default Re: *not* how to date a stripper, sort of

    And there's the backlash I mentioned So when I said something similar to my post to a friend mine (who is a dancer), her response was similar to yours:

    You're an idiot. I just had to write that after reading, " I don't know if I should try and date more strippers or what (which is a silly thing to say because where would I even meet them? And I only date smart girls, so I would have to find smart strippers somehow?!"

    It's annoying when a guy wants to date a stripper because of the stereotypes, or wants to feel cool because of who he's schlepping. It's fine if a guy wants to date a very sexually frank woman and has found that dancers tend to be that way. There's other of us out there who aren't in the dancing profession (try women's studies departments. not all of them are lesbians) but it's okay if you initially start looking for dancers.


    Her comments were apt, and I was trying not to annoy anyone. Obviously that didn't work I don't go to strip clubs, and don't hire private dancers, so I'm basing my comments off of the people I do know and the experiences I've had. I've dated two dancers and even wrote a feature film script based in a strip club (I filmed a short version, watch it if you wish: . The dancers that I know, whether by virtue of interacting on an intimate level all day with people, or whatever the reason , have tended to be more sexually frank than other women, but I certainly make no assumption that's true of all dancers. If I really like a woman, it doesn't matter either way, but obviously being able to talk openly and honestly with a woman is important to me.

    Jenny, what I mean by "liberated" is someone who has no problem with homosexuality, can talk about the politics of sexuality in this country without blushing, can talk about positions, fetishes, lifestyles, swinging, or whatever without assuming, prejudging, or constantly blushing. Man or woman, this isn't easy to find, believe me. Are most strippers like this? Probably not, but because the field is taboo by its nature, people tend to have to be more open minded in general (from my experience anyway). Do I have friends like this? Absolutely, and they're great.

    Mastrodonicus, I'm not posting here because I want an easy fuck, believe me there are far easier ways to do that. I understand why you would be suspicious, and that's true of anyone on this site, but I really am just looking for advice from "sexually liberated" women (or men), who are more comfortable with thier bodies, sex, and sexuality than 95% of the population. That's a compliment.
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    Default Re: *not* how to date a stripper, sort of

    Quote Originally Posted by vertigo777
    Any recommendations on how to meet dancers (or just women who are sexually liberated) without getting that backlash from dancers about "oh you just want to date a stripper."?
    Try a few snappy lines on the strippers like:
    "Is there an extra charge for having a really big penis? I mean me, not you."
    "Wow, you're a testament to modern cosmetic surgery."
    "Do you think your lack of rhythm on stage hurts your earnings any?"
    "Does opening wide and showing your tonsils during a doctor's exam remind you any of work?"
    Those will lighten the mood and endear you to us all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mastridonicus
    What gets jenny into bed doesn't get girlx into bed.
    You know what gets Jenny into bed? Why was I not informed? How much do you want for this information?

    -Ev

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    I only have one thing to add to this...

    Make sure when you do meet your new stripper girlfriend and are having the sex talks of your dreams. Tell her that you only wanted to date a stripper because they are liberal in the sex area of conversation.

    Then post what happens. =)

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    I will, Sinful, it's a deal . . .

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    Default Re: *not* how to date a stripper, sort of

    Dood. If you just search through this site and take a gander at all the threads from PLs who've posted here trying to get advice for bagging strippers, you'd see why your efforts here are wasted. You just can't expect to specifically seek out strippers for dating/sex with much success.

    The only really good way to find the sexually liberated women you seek is through weeding. Don't bring up sex in the first 5 minutes of meeting a woman or even on a first date. But rather let things flow and see if you actually click. If you're not clicking with a woman, don't continue dating her. Politely end it and move on to the next.

    Half the fun of dating is the gamble - the not knowing and finding out what someone is like. It's a bit of a crapshoot, but the more experienced you become, the better you'll be at picking your targets.

    If sex is the #1 thing on your dating criteria list at this point, you've still got a long way to go. So just relax, meet people in normal settings, and enjoy it as it comes.

    I think guys get way too caught up trying to get a specific "type", when most the time they really don't even know what that "type" really is.

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    I don't get it. I thought his original post says that after he finished college he dated two strippers. So why is he now asking for advice on dating more strippers? You would think that after dating two strippers in the past that he would have that down pat. I'm confused.

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    Verigo:
    You're problem here is just that you're looking for a secret handshake. And I'm sorry, you're not going to convince me you're looking for a "sexually liberated" female for months of long walks on the beach. You're candor gives you away.

    I think guys get way too caught up trying to get a specific "type", when most the time they really don't even know what that "type" really is.
    "Sexually Liberated" sounds like a label you would give a girl who felt guilty about sleeping with you night one or two to make her feel better about it. ANYWAYS, the truth here, is: If you're not trolling for booty, than her being a stripper doesn't matter.

    So, if you're not looking for a secret handshake, and you want to meet "Sexually Liberated" women do the following.

    1) Go out to all the local borderline sexual places and/or dance clubs in your area
    2) Approach every female you meet respectfully and uniquely
    3) Have something interesting to talk about, Poindexter.
    4) Point out that you are sexually liberated and that you seek friends of similar interest. Open it with a question.
    5) If all goes well, Pray to god her Boyfriend isn't right there and listening. Ask her to give you her E-MAIL or NUMBER.

    Repeat that cycle on 10 women 4 nights a week. Bite or not.

    You sound like you're afraid to approach women. Being in hollywood, this should not be a problem of yours. If you approach 10 women 4 nights a week in the manner suggested above you will find what you're looking for in time. It sucks and is depressing that someone has to spell it out for you, but if this thread is NOT a trolling for booty one than it IS a "I'm too afraid of approaching woman so how do I find what I want quickly" Under the guise of "I respect strippers too much and don't want to waste my time with anyone one else". I shit you not Vertigo. These people have heard it before.

    Trust me... try my recipe. If you do, you'll quickly notice how much you never needed to post a thread about it in the first place. Dating is simple. Meeting women is simple. It's rather fun. Rejection is part of it though, but to me it's interesting to be rejected and a learning process. Not all "Sexually Liberated" women are looking for you so finding that secret place where they all hang out looking for snausage isn't going to make it easier.

    I'm really trying to help here. This isn't rocket science. Wether it's sexually liberated women, Catholics, Vegetarians or Forklift operators... The formula is the same. But YOU HAVE TO GO MEET PEOPLE.

    It's not cause you're male. It's cause you're looking. It's a sexless truth. If you're a person, looking for X, you have to LOOK.

    Mast.

    You know what gets Jenny into bed? Why was I not informed? How much do you want for this information?
    Here's a hint:
    Lollypop, and "The Breakfast Club". Anything else will require long arduous tasks on your behalf. Like mowing the lawn...and bench pressing me....

    I will, Sinful, it's a deal . . .
    Ask her first. I mean, if that IS you in your avatar, no female I'd know would want to unknowingly have her methode of contact be posted on a site for all people to read. Scary and Stalkerish....but I think that's what Sin was trying to say.


    I don't get it. I thought his original post says that after he finished college he dated two strippers. So why is he now asking for advice on dating more strippers? You would think that after dating two strippers in the past that he would have that down pat. I'm confused.
    truth is, two, or a 500 doesn't garauntee three or 501. Though the comment is suspicious. If he's 100 percent honest, and he made this thread? Dating any sexually liberated woman in the past was a fluke. Maybe they lost a bet? J/K but seriously even a blind squirell can find a nut once in a while.
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    1 is a fluke, 2 is on a roll, 3 is around the corner, 4 is a habit. Now, go get her boy!!

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    Default Re: *not* how to date a stripper, sort of

    Or try one of those internet dating sites that are catered to sex like Adultfriendfinder.com. You can talk about all the sex you want via email/ instant messaging. You can find out right away if they're sexually liberating. But please don't come on a stripper's website asking us for that info. We hear stuff like that every night we work plus having people come here asking us things like that. Just because we're strippers doesn't make us sexually liberated. We're doing a job, just like everyone else. To assume most strippers are sexually liberated is stereotyping. Either try adult websites that cater specifically to sex/fetishes, etc. or try swingers clubs but you're not going to get what you're looking for on a website that caters to strippers.

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    Default Re: *not* how to date a stripper, sort of

    A "not really" question asked by a self-professed "not really" customer

    Quote Originally Posted by Vertigo777
    I don't go to strip clubs, and don't hire private dancers, so I'm basing my comments off of the people I do know and the experiences I've had.
    I'm half inclined to delete the thread as irrelevant but you guys seem to enjoy responding. What the hell, we'll let it ride for now. Besides, I got a great fathers day present yesterday and Im still basking in the generousity of my youngens

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    Quote Originally Posted by FBR
    A "not really" question asked by a self-professed "not really" customer



    I'm half inclined to delete the thread as irrelevant but you guys seem to enjoy responding. What the hell, we'll let it ride for now. Besides, I got a great fathers day present yesterday and Im still basking in the generousity of my youngens

    FBR

    And I thought you took the news of your daughter and I dating in a bad way...

    You're going to make a great grand daddy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mastridonicus
    And I thought you took the news of your daughter and I dating in a bad way...

    You're going to make a great grand daddy!

    Mast!
    Damn. Mast, somehow your email with your financial statement attachment bounced.

    Please resend

    FBR

    PS: You fucker, you show up on the chat list but dont say boo. Meanwhile, RedZ has been doing fire burnouts towards daughter FBR LOL

    Later dude!
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    Just go to the beach and bring SPF 4 lotion. The ones wearing thongs are sexually liberated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsWriter2
    Just go to the beach and bring SPF 4 lotion. The ones wearing thongs are sexually liberated.
    Sporty, I thought everyone uses at least SPF15 nowadays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FBR
    Sporty, I thought everyone uses at least SPF15 nowadays.
    Oh well, this is an irrelevant thread anyway... SPF 15 for the base layer, 30 for shoulders, 45 for noses, zinc oxide for nipples, SPF 30 lip balm (you can't have enough of this). SPF 4 is for the wet shiny look. You can rub it on forever, because it's basically aloe vera and other moisturizers with a little Padimate for UV blocking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mastridonicus
    Not going to happen. What gets jenny into bed doesn't get girlx into bed.
    Here's a hint:
    Lollypop, and "The Breakfast Club". Anything else will require long arduous tasks on your behalf. Like mowing the lawn...and bench pressing me....
    Mast, I hate to undermine you here, but I have to say - the Breakfast Club thing will work on EVERYONE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FBR
    I'm half inclined to delete the thread as irrelevant but you guys seem to enjoy responding. What the hell, we'll let it ride for now. Besides, I got a great fathers day present yesterday and Im still basking in the generousity of my youngens
    Leave the thread up. It only got interesting after it went totally off-topic.

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    Mast, I hate to undermine you here, but I have to say - the Breakfast Club thing will work on EVERYONE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    Mast, I hate to undermine you here, but I have to say - the Breakfast Club thing will work on EVERYONE.
    Uhm....duh....

    We all know The movie gets you into bed. But what Ev doesn't know is how I use the Lollipop to get your clothes off.

    Now behave, I wouldn't want FBR to know I'm banging around on his daughter!
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    QUOTE=FBR:
    Sporty, I thought everyone uses at least SPF15 nowadays.

    FBR
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    Not EVERYONE

    -gen
    "See, believe it or not (and I don't care whether you do), it's never been about the sex. I get sex at home, anytime, and we like it, and it's good for both of us. No, my stripclub experience has been about acceptance, and affirmation, and desirability...There have been some women who have a personality that just clicks with mine, and in the faux-sex atmosphere of the club, it's a mix that is completely seductive." - Jay Zeno

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    Default Re: *not* how to date a stripper, sort of

    I appreciate the responses. Some are obviously more vitriolic than others, but I respect what you guys are saying Just thought I'd see what kind of response I'd get. A couple of you have mentioned stereotypes and why would I post this on a stripper forum. The inherently sexual nature of your profession made me curious as to what kinds of insights you might have, and (some) of your responses were pretty helpful, thanks! Figuring out how women tick is part of the fun, as Mastrodonicus mentioned . . .

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