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    Quote Originally Posted by lilithmorrigan
    If they both knew what they were doing then it was consentual by definition.
    An unmarried 14 year old can't have consentual sex in the USA.
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    Who said this case happened in the USA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustJayda
    An unmarried 14 year old can't have consentual sex in the USA.
    A law school trivia test answer: It is legal in New Mexico.


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    Quote Originally Posted by azcustomer
    A law school trivia test answer: It is legal in New Mexico.
    I stand corrected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Hyde
    A 14 year old girl is suing MySpace because she was raped by a 19 year old guy she met through the site.

    Just something to keep in mind WRT your niece.
    Okay Lillith, very true.

    Where did this take place?
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    It took place in Texas... but I read it on a UK site, so I was confused. Blah, but still, it's annoying when people assume that everywhere is just like America.

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    I would also like to add:

    This girl met this guy MULTIPLE times for a sexual relationship. She only complained when she found out he wasn't captain of the football team. She played a VERY adult game. I think she should be treated like an adult and can't scream 'rape' just because she didn't get what she wanted when she INITIATED the meeting and INITIATED the sex. She knew what she was doing.

    Say a 16 year old boy murders 6 people in a very brutal, but intelligent, way and buries their bodies in several pieces over an entire city block. He knew what he was doing. Should he not go to big-boy jail just because he was a precious BAAAYBEEE and didn't know better?

    Both situations; they knew full well what they were doing and should be treated excactly like the age they were pretending to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilithmorrigan
    I would also like to add:

    This girl met this guy MULTIPLE times for a sexual relationship. She only complained when she found out he wasn't captain of the football team. She played a VERY adult game. I think she should be treated like an adult and can't scream 'rape' just because she didn't get what she wanted when she INITIATED the meeting and INITIATED the sex. She knew what she was doing.

    Say a 16 year old boy murders 6 people in a very brutal, but intelligent, way and buries their bodies in several pieces over an entire city block. He knew what he was doing. Should he not go to big-boy jail just because he was a precious BAAAYBEEE and didn't know better?

    Both situations; they knew full well what they were doing and should be treated excactly like the age they were pretending to be.

    Sorry, I agree with your logic, and if it were my daughter, that shit wouldn't fly with me at all. I have 2 sons too, and the thought of a girl deciding to scream rape under these circumstances is not a small thing to me.

    However, the 19yr does not get to break the law because she was willing. The law is in place because it is believed necessary. Well, he does get to break the law, he just is now vulnerable to the consequences of his "multiple" actions. Shit, him doing it more than once, leads me to believe he didn't give a shit how old she was even more! I mean come on, was the 14yr pussy, so good to a 19yr, that he just had to keep coming back!

    Until the law changes...he's willingly placing himself at risk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustJayda
    Sorry, I agree with your logic, and if it were my daughter, that shit wouldn't fly with me at all. I have 2 sons too, and the thought of a girl deciding to scream rape under these circumstances is not a small thing to me.

    However, the 19yr does not get to break the law because she was willing. The law is in place because it is believed necessary. Well, he does get the break the law, he just is now vulnerable to the consequences of his "multiple" actions. Shit, him doing it more than once, leads me to believe he didn't give a shit how old she was even more! I mean come on, was the 14yr pussy, so good to a 19yr, that he just had to keep coming back!

    Until the law changes...he's willingly placing himself at risk.
    He had believed her to be 17. She said it multiple times. It's legal then, because the age is only two years apart.

    I think she should be tried for extortion and he should be tried for not carding a minor. Haha.

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    She isn't extorting him. And lying isn't against the law in this context.
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    Well she lied to govt officials as well about the whole thing when she screamed 'rape' (as in, forced penetration)... so she should at least be tried for perjury.

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    Not if the rape she accused him was statutory. You can argue that the claim she has does not have moral ground (although I disagree) but you can't claim that statutory rape (in any of its incarnations) doesn't exist.

    Plus perjury can only be done under oath. Making an allegation isn't perjury until you are in court.
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    Agree to disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    She isn't extorting him. And lying isn't against the law in this context.
    Thank You Jenny.

    It doesn't matter how old he thought she was due to her lies, the law isn't sympathetic to that Besides, he could say that he thought she was "17", and be lying. Further, all sexually active young men should be concerned with this issue, and should do their own research, when verifying a girl's age. It seems like, it wouldn't be to hard to tell, when she can't talk about half the shit 17 year old girls can, doesn't have a driving permit, or numerous other things that would indicate her age. HE DIDN'T CARE!!! She was willing, and that was enough.

    For him, getting the ass was more important, than protecting his own.
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    Proof she was lying about her age was her Myspace where she repeatedly sent messages saying she was 17 and her profile said the same.

    THAT'S WHY THE WOMAN IS SUING MYSPACE.

    Because Myspace made it 'too easy' for her daughter to fake 17.

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    Interestingly, I'm having this exact discussion on another discussion board. I think that people are targeting the wrong culprit. Myspace isn't the problem--this girl could just as easily have gone to FaceTheJury, Facebook, AOL, or any number of popular online meeting places that have been around expressly for the purpose of networking. Myspace just happens to be popular right now, so they get the demonizing. I remember being 14-16, too, and the girls my age were having sex and partying and meeting older guys then, too. I wasn't, but if I'd had a webcam and Internet access when I was 16, I probably would've been right on there, too (and my life would've turned out a lot differently, I'm sure).

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    ^^
    I get what you are saying, but the case is not about whether teenage girls make good decisions. In fact, it is taken for granted that children will not make good decisions - that is why we have protection for them in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lilithmorrigan
    Proof she was lying about her age was her Myspace where she repeatedly sent messages saying she was 17 and her profile said the same.

    THAT'S WHY THE WOMAN IS SUING MYSPACE.

    Because Myspace made it 'too easy' for her daughter to fake 17.
    Well I'm suing McDonald's, they make it too easy for me to have a fat ass. I'm suing StipperWeb, they make it too easy for me to not wash dishes, and change diapers, cuz I'm on here all damn day & night.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lilithmorrigan
    About the 19 year old 14 year old thing.

    She lied about her age and CONSENTUALLY slept with the 19 year old... but ran to the police and screamed rape when she found out he wasn't captain of the football team...like his Myspace said.
    You kind of make my point for me.

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