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    Not sure if this has been posted before or not so forgive me

    I have noticed that some of my custys enjoy a nice convo, and the fact that I am well rounded...no pun intended! I also enjoy being able to have a conversation that doesnt begin with "Nice Hooters!" But we all know this effective with regulars not your everyday joe.( well not always)
    Last week another gal asked me to double with her, she is great and I didnt mind. She advised me prior to the dance, that "He hates smart girls so act really stupid" This guy is an ass, but we did the dances and giggled at everything and we both got $100. from him. ***Note on the guy* He is the most arrogant f*ck i have ever been around, and he does spend a lot of money! But he is such an ass. He came in that night to show off his new penis car that supposedly was worth $600k. It looked like a damn hearse. Anyway he is a gianormous tool!
    Now here is my question...Do you find that if you act dumb you make more money? I know its the stereotype of all dancers, that we are stupid and cant do anything else. I said stereotype!!!! But do you find that if you come off as smart..or just yourself, you intimidate them? Just wondering, what your thoughts were.
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    From "the 48 Laws of Power,"
    Law #21: Play a Sucker to Catch a Sucker; seem dumber than your mark.
    The trick is to make your target feel smart-- and not just smart but smarter than you are. Once convinced of this, they may never suspect that you have ulterior motives.

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    I make more money being smart because my regulars LOVE my debates with them. We argue to the point of bringing them notes the next time we meet (which gets them to come back to prove you wrong!) and, of course, I only argue my points during a dance. >_>

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    I've heard from other dancers and my experience a little bit to play ditzy. You being "dumb" makes them feel so much smarter and superior, even though we know they're not. They think if we're dumb then we're not smart enough to hustle them.

    There are the few guys that like smart strippers but I think the most like them to be "dumb".

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    Hmmm, guess I have been doing this all wrong. Guys always ask if I do anything outside of dancing and I tell them my aspirations. Some seem impressed others disintrested. I always chalked it up to the fact that I won't apeal to every guy. Different flavors for different fellas kinda thing. I always try to remain well spoken and what not but it pisses a cerain percentage of guys off. Probably the most insecure ones but his money is as green as the next guys. I want to appeal to as wide of a range of guys as possible. I think the best bet would be to get him talking and take it from there. If he seems determined to impress act impressed and in awe of his achivements. If he wants a debate or philisophical disscussion then entertain him, that is the goal.

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    Whoa forgot the spell check! he he he

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    Most guys prefer to spend money on a girl if it's "for a good cause." If you aspire to go back to school, or you have children to care for, you're taking care of your dying parent, etc. then people are happy to contribute to a good cause... not support a dancer's drug habit or her boyfriend.

    You might have a little more success if you talk about a subject the guy can relate to. Lilith does very well because she engages them in the conversation. Even though they admire you for talking about your aspirations, they lose interest after a short time. You need to keep them interested.

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    You know, we talk on here as if there is a "standard" stripper and a "standard" customer, who behave according to pre-programmed rules. In reality, you get the full spectrum pasing into a strip venue.

    On a personal level, I've had some fascinating conversations with dancers, and they've lead me into learning things I wouldn't have done in the normal course of events.

    I'd like to think the dancer's shift passed more pleasantly too, on the grounds she had a interesting conversation with someone who treated her with a bit of courtesy.

    Most dancers I know do tend to "dumb down" their conversation for casual customers - I think that on average it makes it easier for them.

    As far as wide ranging, thoughtful conversation goes, I think a prerequisite is a degree of mutual respect between dancer and customer - the conversation isn't going to go very far if each side thinks the other is an assh*le.

    Phil.

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    PS
    You can tell if they are interested by watching their eyes. This is so important I'm going to say it again. WATCH THEIR EYES. Eye contact is huge.

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    I am a 911 Dispatcher and a Vol Firefighter, so I can engage them on a lot of topics. I too have several custys that remark on how nice it is to have a good conversation. I agree that is does make the shift nice!
    " I've been a bad, bad girl. I've been careless with a delicate man. And it's a sad world when a girl can break a boy, just because she can." Fionna Apple

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    Question:

    How do you hold a conversation WHILE dancing?...And what kind of conversations (or debates) are they? I just cant picture it...

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