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    Hello ladies.... My wife and I are in the process of opening a stripper service... We plan on providing entertainment for bachelor parties etc... there are only two other services in the area, and we feel that they are sub-par... I was looking for a little advice about attracting dancers. I was also curios about the slow seasons... what some services that you have worked for in the past have done to attract more business... Thank you!!

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    What area are you located in? There may no longer be such a need for additional "services"







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    Well, I would advise that you do not limit yourself to just stripping or adult entertainment... offer models, promo girls, bikini girls as well as strippers. Try to organise jelly wrestling once a week somewhere for a month here and there sponsored by your agency. Try to organise bikini/topless/promo girls for various pubs (as the repeat business from the pubs/hotels is what will make you money).

    Also, don't limit yourself to just your area (even if it is a major city). You can specialise in that particular area whilst also servicing other surrounding counties/areas.

    Plus it is up to you whether you will give priority to girls who are exclusive to you over girls who are part of other agencies... or have the girls work shifts (as such).


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    Thank you for the advice.... any suggestions where to find girls besides craigslist, and newspaper ads?

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    word of mouth... a lot of strippers move around a lot. if the word on the street is that there's a cool new agency in town, it's likely some of the girls will come and check it out.

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    It is really tough to try and balance what the customer is willing to pay and what the dancer is willing to work for, and the agency getting their fees as well. If you can get the dancers $250 an hour or more, you can almost be guarenteed that the girls who are worth it will show up to do the job. Trying to convince the customer that the dancers are worth it is really, really tough!

    Customers will look at photos of the dancers on line, and if your compition has great photos and lower prices, then you will lose the business to them.(even if they don't have girls, the compitetion will still say they can do the show) Then you will have situations where you have to cancle a party. On Saturday night the girls I had scheduled for a party were running late (the previous booking ran over), and the customers were calling me to find out what was going on. The girls were about an hour late (very normal in this biz), and customer was getting abusive to me. I told him to calm down, that the girls were on their way. Well, he got more abusive to me over the phone, and I had to cancle because I was not going to send my girls into a situation like that. The girls lost $700 and I lost $180 (had to refund the customer his deposit). The customer must have called me about another 15 times. I didn't answer, of course, but my voice mail was full of threats of violence interspersed with other guys from the same party calling and begging forgivness and please, please just send the girls.

    I had six parties on Saturday where the dancers simply didn't show up at all, and two other parties where only one of two scheduled dancers showed up. Let me tell you, my merchant services is making a lot of money off of me this week! Refund, refund, refund.

    It was a very busy weekend, so all in all the problems weren't that bad. But, yeah, I'm giving back about $1000.00 in refunds just from Saturday alone. Even dancers that are always reliable, will occasionally blow off parties for better offers. That kind of leaves me hanging in a couple of ways. 1. I have to refund the party she agreed to do, and then didn't and 2. I have no recourse (punishment) as she probably has future bookings that are expecting her to perform at their party.

    All I can do is drop her name to bottom of the "future work" call list and pull her photos from the website, so customers stop requesting her. Now when this gets really sticky is situations like last Saturday when 5 of my best and most reliable party dancers were booked into one party for the whole evening. Then I have to look to the list of "less reliable" dancers, and cross my fingers and hope everything is going to work out.

    Then you have the customer side of the situation. The customers don't seem to understand that ordering a dancer for their party is not just like ordering pizza. It just slays me when they call in (and were talking rural and small towns where our services are available) and ask if I can send a dancer *right now* and she needs to be a red head between 5'2" and 5'8" tall, skinny with big boobs dressed like an LA Raiders Cheerleader.

    Then you have customers that do buy our services, are happy with our services, but tipped the dancers too heavy and blame us for the money they spent on the girls. These types will call in on Monday morning saying that the show was way more expensive than *we* led them to believe, and could they please get their deposit back. I have to go through the process of explaining to them that no one forced them to give the dancers an additional $1000 in tips, and that is their own fault for not sticking to a budget for their show. After I think I have it all resolved, the credit card company pulls the deposit money back, as the customer filed a "buyers remorse" complaint with their bank, or claimed that the card was stolen and the charges were unauthorized or whatever. Being as it is a sexually oriented business, we basically have to take it up the ass on that one or lose our merchant account altogether.

    As far as finding girls, your guess is as good as mine. I used to dance and have many girls that i worked with in the clubs. Of the 50 or so that said they wanted to do parties only 2 have actually done any parties. I'll call the girls and offer work, and no matter how high the fee is, the girls always try to get an extra $50 out of me. I had a party on Saturday night for one dancer paying $300 for 1 hour. Of the three girls that called me back on this one, all three said they can't do the party for less than $350. This is in Oregon where club work pays $100-300 a 6 hour shift!

    And don't even get me started on the male strippers. I think the 'roids might mess with their thinking. I'd say about 50% of the shows booked for the males are no call/no show. These guys over commit and try to "make it work" anyway. Well, guess what? If he has four parties scheduled for 10pm, someone is not going to get her stripper. Most of the dancers work for other agencies as well as ours, so even though we have them scheuled for sufficent travel time between gigs, the other two agencies he works for have also given him shows. How so I fix that? I can't when all the dancers in a given region are doing the same thing. All I'm left to do is refund the money of the customer and hope our compition also get the shaft on some shows as well.

    All in all we had over 80 parties over the weekend, so we did pretty well. We are in the middle of our bachelor/ bachelorette season and it will probably run until about mid October in the Northwest. In the Southwest we start to get busy shortly before Christmas and that area has it's season until late March or early April. I only had one party this weekend in Phoenix but had around 30 in the Seattle area, and Phoenix is twice the size of Seattle, if that gives you an idea as to how the seasons run. In February it is the opposite with Phoenix getting tons of business and Seattle there is nothing. (just as an exampe)

    Good luck with your new business. I am happy to be working for a big agency now. I used to book girls on my own when I lived in Missoula, Montana. In that city I would get calls from all over the state (I advertized in the alternative weekly newspaper), but it really was only a part time gig at best. I had three male dancers and about a dozen female dancers who worked with me there, and it was very managable for a single person to try an co-ordinate a small area like that. We have an office staff of six here, and that seems to be just fine even though we service at least 15 major metro areas as well as all the outlying suburbs and rural areas.


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    THANK YOU!!! I appreciate all the replys!!! keep em coming!

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    Dear RickM1

    I operate a stripper agency and my advice is to start your business with newbies and/or dancers who work in dives and chitling clubs.

    Newbies don't know anything and everything they need to know about the game you'll teach them; ultimately, you want them to be young, dumb, and regard you as a father figure or "sweet daddy". Keep ads posted on craigslist and make a pretty myspace page promising girls lots of money, its the "in" thing to be a porn star/stripper right now, you'll quickly find a lot of potential talent.

    I often go to clubs to recruit dancers and I always make it a point to hit up dives/chitling clubs! Don't overlook them, you'll find diamonds in the rough, plus these girls are used to working long shifts and making no money so they're eager to listen. The transition from 'club dancer' to 'party stripper' is a lot easier because they're used to raunchier lap dances with a lot more contact versues dancers who work at your premiere strip clubs.


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    ctstriptease1:

    won't most clubs kick you out for recruiting?

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    my opinion: when someone comes in my club and tries to get me to work for them, i usually roll my eyes and stay away from them...maybe dont be so obvious you are looking for girs, but bring up your agency during conversation with the girls. let it be known you run a good agency, but dont go in there trieng to get the girls to work for you. they cant kick you out for that that i know of! good luck!

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    I don't know if your area does "pub" shows however if there are any in your area... go to them often (as they don't always have the same girls week to week or month to month) and go to it wearing a nice outfit with polo or t-shirt with the logo etc of your agency on it. Do not give your girls your card! This way you are advertising yourself not only to fellow patrons (who are good potential future customers) ... you are advertising yourself to the dancers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RickM1
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    won't most clubs kick you out for recruiting?
    Most clubs will kick you out if you are blatantly passing your business card around. You want to go scavenging at the clubs on slow nights like Sunday-Wednesday; I usually ask a girl first if she does/or would consider doing bachelor parties then get a lap dance and discuss business. Be sure to keep your conversation about your business when your back there because dancers get this a lot and will think you're just trying to screw them. All you really need to get is one dancer from the club to work for you, even if she's a booger; if she made good money at your party she'll tell her other "stripper" friends about you or eventually introduce you to the better looking girls in the club.

    Also, don't let club dancers try to get you pay them some outrageous base pay for doing a party. Club dancers have tried to tell me they want "$150 to walk in the door" but that's just bullshit stripper game considering they're paying a $35-60 house fee to work at a club. Make sure your game is tight when dealing with dancers, if you are a legitimate stripper agency, you can get dancers to do shows for you and keep your base pay around between $0-50.


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    Vanessa -

    Pub jobs are great, but when dealing with pubs week in week out whinging at you because last weeks girls were not 'good' enough is quite a difficult take :-P Pub owners seem to think that because you have a folio of hot chicks on the web means that they are going to show up looking exactly what they look like in the photos :-( which never happens - those photos take hours to do, hence why I have told all pub venues I will not supply girls to them. Also most girls do not like doing pub jobs at all no matter how little or big the pay is - pub men are rude and smelly :-P

    CT

    I know a qld agency hired girls through a particular qld club week in and week out and it worked ok, but the girls were very hit and miss - not good for business.

    Agencies are difficult to run at time, so make sure that you have good allies with the girls, as they are your product, never send girls to some where you would not want your sister/girlfriend to go, be respectful and they are good back to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctstriptease1
    Dear RickM1

    Newbies don't know anything and everything they need to know about the game you'll teach them; ultimately, you want them to be young, dumb, and regard you as a father figure or "sweet daddy". Keep ads posted on craigslist and make a pretty myspace page promising girls lots of money, its the "in" thing to be a porn star/stripper right now, you'll quickly find a lot of potential talent.
    What you are forgetting is that there are people like me out there educating your newbies. Oh, and stripperweb is click away, too.

    Rick, do NOT follow ctstriptease's example! I have a feeling that he will end up in hot water at somepoint. He is not on the best of terms here on stripperweb, either.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ctstriptease1
    Also, don't let club dancers try to get you pay them some outrageous base pay for doing a party. Club dancers have tried to tell me they want "$150 to walk in the door" but that's just bullshit stripper game considering they're paying a $35-60 house fee to work at a club. Make sure your game is tight when dealing with dancers, if you are a legitimate stripper agency, you can get dancers to do shows for you and keep your base pay around between $0-50.

    Bwhahahhahaha!! What third world nation do you live in??

    The OP said he wanted good quality talent, not barely literate illegal immigrants.

    As an agent you should not be paying your dancers anything. The dancers get paid by the customers directly, so then you don't have any sticky situations tax wise as an employer.

    Well, we've got porn actors/actresses, Hustler models, Playgirl models and feature dancers that work through us for their private party bookings. I highly doubt these skilled and in demand entertainers would work with us if we couldn't get them a decent amount of money up front.

    Hell, they don't even need agents with craigslist, myspace and all the other resources available to get their jobs. ctstriptease, I suspect has low quality talent, and that is reflected in his prices (or he is a pimp with underage performers??).
    Last edited by Paris; 06-28-2006 at 09:27 AM.


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    I'm pretty new to dancing but I've got a good head on my shoulders. In all honesty, if a guy tried to come in and recruit me I would absolutely stay away from him.

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    Thanks for the tips... I was planning on making sure that my girls get paid a nice wage... I hope in return, I can find some reliable beautiful women.

    by the way: What are pub jobs?

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    i think she means promotional jobs, but i could be wrong? and i couldnt agree more with paris about ct's advice.

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    Dont you guys know what a pub is ?? Damn..

    pub
    n. A place of business where alcoholic beverages are sold and drunk.
    n : tavern consisting of a building with a bar and public rooms; often provides light meals [syn: public house, saloon, pothouse, gin mill, taphouse]

    Now are we more clear ? Alot of pubs and taverns around Australia have weekly strip shows (only nude - no insertion allowed) and/or lingere/bikini/topless waitresses (or lingere/bikini/topless girls selling meat tray raffle tickets).


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    Oy vey! I second what Paris and others have said! As soon as I read this:
    Quote Originally Posted by ctstriptease1
    Dear RickM1

    Newbies don't know anything and everything they need to know about the game you'll teach them; ultimately, you want them to be young, dumb, and regard you as a father figure or "sweet daddy".
    . . . I thought, Christ almighty, remind me NOT to ever take any business cards from (ha) "Father Figure" types who come prowling around my club (he's in my area, scarily enough). What a totally insulting attitude.
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    Jeez, what slime. And I would NEVER work for 0-50 dollars. Are you smoking any kind of mind-altering drugs? If you want a beautiful, intelligent, clean girl, who is a great dancer and drama free (shows up on time, etc.) there is no way you can get that for 0-50 dollars. *snorts*

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctstriptease1
    Dear RickM1

    I operate a stripper agency and my advice is to start your business with newbies and/or dancers who work in dives and chitling clubs.

    Newbies don't know anything and everything they need to know about the game you'll teach them; ultimately, you want them to be young, dumb, and regard you as a father figure or "sweet daddy".
    "sweet daddy"?? ahahaha. seriously, ahaha.

    dude, you sound like a complete scumbag.

    RickM1, if you want a successful and RESPECTABLE agency with quality staff, all you need to do is basically do everything the opposite of what ctstriptease has said. if you'd like to exploit a bunch of naiive, probably drug-fucked skanks, and make a shitload of cash without paying them anything and most likely end up being the agency with a bad reputation that guys only call as a last resort when all the quality agencies are booked out, i suggest you do exactly what mister ctstriptease has said.

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    Paris,

    I don't understand why you've gone out of your way to insult my integrity, but it's not uncommon of moderators on this site to rip people they disagree with. You can reject my advice but my success as an agency owner speaks for its self; granted, we are in Connecticut, we still host more parties than any other agency around. All of your comments ("low quality talent", "pimp with underage performers??") have no validation, so I'm not taking it personal.

    However, Paris, you did use the word "pimp" discouragingly, as if our managerial position is not remotely similiar. Please, do not "knock" the hustle; I read your lengthy comment earlier about dancers running late and missing shows, whereas if you had a better understanding and appreciation of the game, this would've never happend. Dancers are supposed to make you money, instead your losing money returning deposits and paying merchant service refund fees.

    Quote Originally Posted by paris
    I have no recourse (punishment) as she probably has future bookings that are expecting her to perform at their party
    Your dancer blew you off, causing you to lose money, damage your company reputation, yet you're not going to hit this dancer with a fine or drop her from your roster? Unless you started your agency to be a "strippers best friend", than this is ridiculous! Do you think a club would tolerate shit like that ...

    I'm also not impressed by you having "porn actors/actresses, Hustler models, Playgirl models and feature dancers" on your roster either, because when it comes to parties, its not the size of the dog but the size of the fight in the dog. You can have those centerfold models, etc., because they're not gonna work as hard as these respectable looking dancers that I've got already. My customers make me money, not dancers, and its more important that they get a over the top quality show with lasting memories in order to get a referral and repeat business. It's like hiring mexicans to mow your lawn, who's gonna complain when they can do a better job for more reasonable prices.


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    Quote Originally Posted by darcy foxx
    sweet daddy"?? ahahaha. seriously, ahaha.

    dude, you sound like a complete scumbag.
    Since when is being a father a bad thing, especially when I'm a father like Ward Cleaver or Dr. Cliff Huxutable, a loving role model and an inspirational teacher. If I can provide this guidance to a young dancer, how am I a scumbug?


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    saying you prefer to hire dumb girls who you can condition into your way of thinking, and make them look up to you as a "sweet daddy" (a term which i've never heard used before, but the image it paints in my mind is not a nice one), does make you sound pretty scummy.

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