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    Ok, so I ran into a really odd situation last night. At the beginning of the night, a customer was sitting at the bar and I talked to him for about 5 minutes. He wasn't much of a conversationalist so I asked him if he'd like a dance pretty quickly even though we weren't busy at all. He declined, but in a way that sounded like he might be interested later.

    Later in the night we were busier so I didn't talk to him anymore, but I saw him sitting in the VIP section with a bottle of champagne, a plate of fruit/cheese, and with no girls sitting with him, which is very odd. Usually girls flock cause they think there's money. I waited quite a while to go over and say hi again, and on his table he had maybe 5 twenties laid out, like in a fan, showing them off. I talked to him for about 5 more minutes, he hinted that he would be leaving soon (with a full plate of food) so I asked if he'd like a dance before he went and he declined again, so I said goodnight and left.

    Now, he didn't have any other girls sit with him (this is probably because they all know he never buys shit), but he had this plate of food/champage/money which looked inviting for someone to join in. Is this a power trip do you think? He has a problem with his hands, like they were injured in an accident, so I'm thinking to build his self esteem maybe he wants cute girls to "hit on him" so he can turn them down.

    It's impossible to sell this guy, right?

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    I'm thinking yes to everything you said. He is probably there for some sort of ego boost and turning down beautiful women probably is a boost for him. As for selling, I bet if you take the time to get past the same "dancer" lines he is given by the rest of the girls he might start looing at you different and possibly take you up on a vip. But, it maybe not worth the time to get to that point.

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    Guys who advertise their money are usually jackasses who don't spend IMO. Not impossible to sell to, but for the most part a waste of time.
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    He could just be some schmuk. I mean; seriously - to us it sounds downright retarded to go to a strip club and buy champagne/fruit/cheese to sit by yourself. But there could be some guy somewhere that thinks that is the DEFINITION of gracious living. It is also very possible that he was expecting someone else who either was not working, didn't show, or didn't like him for some reason.
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    being able to turn down women makes him feel like he's in control. he's probably an asshole who can't get a date. i've come across quite a few guys like this in the club. they generally want the girls to "earn" their approval for dances far more than any other customer and they're typically the same guys who go on and on about "knowing the strip club game" *rolls eyes*. i guess if going to strip clubs is the only way you can get women to talk to you, being the "best" at it is the only way you can not feel like a total loser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hot4ablackchick
    Guys who advertise their money are usually jackasses who don't spend IMO. Not impossible to sell to, but for the most part a waste of time.

    SO true...as soon as a guy starts bragging about how much money he has or how expensive his car/house/whatever is...I pretty much count on him NOT spending any. If he was planning on spending money...he wouldnt try to impress me by TALKING about it!!He would try to impress me by SPENDING it!

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    If he's showing the money, he doesn't want to spend it... Like guys that use money clips at the club, they like to show what they have, but if they spend it, they can't show it anymore, right?
    Sounds downright annoying to me.. I am seriously getting sick of guys that just come for the show and then get upset if we think they should be spending money. Grrr. I wish there was some sort of notice at the door explaining why we as dancers are there, what goes on in the club and that we aren't all nymphos that are there because we LOVE to take off our clothes for strange men. And NO I don't like you enough to go to your hotel room.... Grr
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    I don't always subscribe to the theory that guys who show money don't want to spend it. About a year ago, I went into a club in Tulsa, Oklahoma of all places. It was a simple club but very busy. Lots of dancers and lots of customers who weren't spending a dime on them. The ratio of dancers to customers was about 5 dancers to every 4 customers so obviously a few of them were sitting around not doing much. Much to my amazement, the dancers would be sitting with these guys for 10, 15, 20 minutes and the guys wouldn't spend a penny on them. So obviously being the out-of-towner in the club, I sat there for 20 minutes and not one dancer even approached with the "wanna dance?" routine. So I went up to a dancer on stage who looked nice and tipped her $10. She finishes her set and goes and sits on the lap of the guy she was with before who wasn't buying anything. So now I'm looking at this as a game. So I got up to the next dancer on stage, tip her $20 and ask for her to come to my table when she was done. She said thanks and she would. She didn't.

    I did this with three other dancers and not one of them came by my table. They just kept going back to their deadbeat regulars. The only person who actually even said hi to me was the cocktail waitress. So just for fun, I made a little tent out of a $50 bill and put it on the table. A few seconds later, a dancer walks up, "Hi, wanna dance?" all the while drooling over that fifty. So I leaned over and dropped it on the tray for the cocktail waitress.

    My point in all this is don't just necessarily blame the customer. While it's nice to think he's just a jerk, perhaps you weren't his type and perhaps he was getting frustrated by the fact that no other dancers approached him all night. You are making an assumption that nobody wen't to see him because they already knew something about him. While that's entirely possible, it's also possible you don't know the entire story here either. What I'm curious about is why you didn't just ask him what he wanted or what he was looking for. That's sales!

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    When I sat with him at the beginning of the night, he did mention that he was looking for some girl I had never heard of. The fact that he didn't want a dance from me didn't really surprise me, it's entirely possible he doesn't like blondes or whatever, but it's the fact that he was there the entire night....from at least 8pm til 2AM, I mean clearly at midnight this other girl wasn't coming in, so I wondered why he wouldn't have gotten a dance from someone else, and that's why I went back.

    Also, if he wasn't sure the other girl was coming in, why order food that you have no intention of eating?

    I agree that eventually he might open up and be more interested in spending money on me, especially since he seemed to enjoy talking to me the second time I sat down, but it would take too long to find out probably.

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    Don't let guys like this get to you. But don't let his money get away, either. I never leave a customer without asking him if there is anything I can do for him like can I get the waitress for him or is he looking for another dancer that might be hiding in the dressing room. If all your sales technique do not work, then move on. Many people that behave this way are toxic and the best place for you is as far away from them as possible. Look at it as a blessing.

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    He sounds more like a sad bastard than an ego-tripper, especially since you mentioned that he came into the club looking for a specific girl who wasn't there... kind of wallowing in his disappointment. Probably using it as ammo to make the other girl feel guilty at some point in the future. It's quite the sad little scene: "Destiny, I waited for you for six hours. I had champagne, I had cheese, I had my money all ready to go, I turned away other dancers, all because I LOVE YOU FOREVER ahhhhhhhfskjfsicrtygh!"

    Also... some guys are just weirdos and if you can't figure out/accidentally stumble upon the magic words to make you their new favorite, you're pretty much just SOL and that's that. Half the time it's for the best anyway, because any guy who would pull a stunt like this for whatever reason is probably going to be a difficult customer.
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    As far as the situation DW described, I for the life of me can't figure out why those dancers didn't come over to the table, especially when a $20 is given and specifically asked to come to the table when the set is over. That's the easiest sell possible! Maybe it's just that bar and what those dancers are used to doing. That's not what I'd be doing, I'd be over there in a second.

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    DancerWealth said...
    My point in all this is don't just necessarily blame the customer. While it's nice to think he's just a jerk, perhaps you weren't his type and perhaps he was getting frustrated by the fact that no other dancers approached him all night. You are making an assumption that nobody wen't to see him because they already knew something about him. While that's entirely possible, it's also possible you don't know the entire story here either. What I'm curious about is why you didn't just ask him what he wanted or what he was looking for. That's sales!
    Well put!

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    Quote Originally Posted by leogirl876
    As far as the situation DW described, I for the life of me can't figure out why those dancers didn't come over to the table, especially when a $20 is given and specifically asked to come to the table when the set is over. That's the easiest sell possible! Maybe it's just that bar and what those dancers are used to doing. That's not what I'd be doing, I'd be over there in a second.
    ditto.. Anyone that tips me that well is giving me a sign that they like me and would probably like to spend more on me.. I always thank anyone that tipped me and always pay more attention to the ones that tipped well.
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    Well, maybe he really was looking for that other dancer... and was one of those lovesick, slightly unstable customers... which would explain him being there all night... he was waiting... Maybe the other girls knew this, which was why they weren't sitting with him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DancerWealth
    My point in all this is don't just necessarily blame the customer. While it's nice to think he's just a jerk, perhaps you weren't his type and perhaps he was getting frustrated by the fact that no other dancers approached him all night. You are making an assumption that nobody wen't to see him because they already knew something about him. While that's entirely possible, it's also possible you don't know the entire story here either. What I'm curious about is why you didn't just ask him what he wanted or what he was looking for. That's sales!
    This has happened to me!! I travel a lot to different clubs around the US. I usually keep my head down and do't chat much with the local girls. On many, many occasions I've given dances or sold rooms to guys that all the dancers inthe club had written off, long ago.

    The girls would say things to me like "How did you sell that guy a VIP show? He has never even gotten a table dance?" My response is that I just asked him. I've even had management comment to me about my ability to sell the "tough cases". Ummmm... Not sure what I was doing different than the other girls. I've never even really considered myself a strong hustler (I'm mostly just lazy, and like to make most of my money off of 1 or 2 guys in a whole shift).

    But, I must throw in a caveat- I have seen plenty of guys who like to "pretend" they are rich by flashing around money that they either can't afford to spend, or isn't theirs to spend. Usually the new girls will fall for this and give the customer free time hoping it will pay off eventually.


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    What a jerk. I suppose it's possible he really was looking for someone else/had a good reason to be a jackass, but my cynical mind is saying he was just on some kind of ego trip. Those kinds of customers suck. I don't even know why people like that BOTHER going to SC's - would they like that done to them? No. But I guess that's just how some people are =/

    I'd probably warn the other dancers about him, especially if he keeps coming in and goes on his little power trips. Then no one will talk to him and he'll get what he deserves!
    Has he come in before or after you posted this?

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    I don't know if I'd write this guy off automatically. Even if you think he's a sad, insecure show-off, try to find a way to tap into that need for respect. Whatever weird desire he is fulfilling by sitting alone in a Champagne Room with a cheese plate, maybe you could fulfill it with a dance. I'm not saying I know a sure-fire way to do this...just saying I'd be looking for it.

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    No, I haven't seen him since I posted this. It was a Sunday I think, so I'll see if he's there tonight. I'm pretty sure the girl he mentioned does not work there anymore, so maybe he figured this out and just isn't coming in anymore.

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    The man is on a flipping power trip IMHO

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    Power trip or not, if he's got money, and he's in a SC, and it's out for all to see, there's a way to get it from him. I think he wants to be figured out. Whoever does will probably open up the doors of his vault. However, might take a little time.

    Money aside, does he look like he's worth hustling? Clothes nice? Jewelry? Flashing keys? Anybody can flash $100. Not everyone can flash keys to a $50,000 Merc, or a $10,000 diamond. He's got that, work on the vault. If not, heck with him.

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