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    Angry Bad night at work need some advice

    Hey ladies!

    Last night I went into work and it was like pulling teeth to get dances!! I did everything that I have read on the boards to do......Smile, be playful, act interested, don't sit too long, etc, etc. Last night, and the last couple of nights, I had to stay 7 hours and went home with $150-$200, which is not terrible, I know it could be worse, but it was so much work to get that money.

    I noticed with other girls at my club, it is relatively easy for them to make money. They walk up to the guy and whisper in his ear and he's off to get dances, SEVERAL dances. The average at my club for most of the girls is 4-500 a night. So if your making less than that you feel like a shit heel.

    To top it off, five different guys that I went up to said that they were there waiting for another girl. It just irritates me because I feel like I am in a club with regulars and I hate those type of clubs.

    I need to go back within the next couple of days, does anyone have any advice so I can become motivated to go back and deal with all the rejection ?

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    Default Re: Bad night at work need some advice

    Just stick it out, I think it being the July 4th weekend, it's going to be slow everywhere. Everyone's going out of town, over friend's houses, etc. Don't feel too bad, I did everything possible and walked out with $55!! I think I got totally naked on stage once! At my club you can't take your top off until you're tipped $5 and bottoms off at $10. Then only a few dances and not much on stage. It was BAD, BAD, BAD! I saw a couple girls at my club on that bad night make a lot but maybe they had a regular or got lucky or other things. Don't let it get you down, everyone has hard nights from time to time. Just do what you were doing and you'll have an awesome night when you least expect it.

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    Welcome to California, Mischa. I don't know where you are, but it sounds like an extras club to me.

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    Possibly it is an extras club as Yekhefah stated. As for regulars, I find almost all clubs have them to some degree, management tends to like it that way for business on weekdays and slow weekends. Attitude is one major point that can change anyone's earnings. Girls often make the most money on days when they feel they are the hottest one in the club... or the hottest in the "category" per say (like goth, glam, clubber...). I find the nights I care the least about making money because I already have it I make the most, because I believe psychologically the customers who come into clubs love them for the fantasy. Be something they cannot have, play the role. The more unattainable yet fascinating, the more you want something.
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    Default Re: Bad night at work need some advice

    Try chatting up your co-workers. They may tell you what they do. Ask about what guys like in general. I've worked at clubs where the girls date the guys and act as virtual girlfriends. I can honestly say they didin't seem to be sleeping together. I've just overheard dramatic exchanges between them followed by make-up cooing on the phone and in person. One guy gave my friend a Mercedes and all he expects is to visit at the club twice a month and update calls now and then.

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    My guess would be that the whispering in the guys' ears are offers of extras - or atleast suggestions of such. It's virtually impossible to compete with these type of women. No matter how sexy, sweet, and enticing you are, most guys are going to go with the slut who's going to get their rocks off (short of the occassional man with class who is looking for a dancer with the same quality).

    Also, I highly doubt that talking to these girls and asking them what they're telling the guys is going to do any good, because:
    a) if they have a successful technique, they aren't going to tell you! This is a dog eat dog industry... and
    b) if they are offering extras, they certainly aren't going to tell you

    I'd suggest looking for another club. But beware, you are going to encounter this bullshit almost anywhere these days.

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    I have the same dilema, i always walk out with crap.
    I had a sook at my husband complaining of what was going on because when i walk into the club i am a different person, i have my whole persona working for me.
    I AM (not being a big head here) the most physically attractive girl there.
    The problem is...the guys i go up to and ask for a dance always give [lame generic excuse here] no matter how interested in me they are, even the ones that seem to be having a great time just won't budge with the dances so i can't even work my way up to VIP BUT when some of the other girls go up to them it's almost instant, some girls get several VIP's and a shitload of dances in that working period and i'm always confused because I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG.
    I feel like i shouldn't blame them but it's definately not my fault, i work hard and play by the rules........and i will blame them because it doesn't take any special cat senses to sniff out a rat no matter how nice and good the girls seem.
    It's fustrating for me.

    I can't go to another club, i drive about 1 hour, stay in a hotel to go on Saturdays and work. The clubs around there are owned by the same guy and they pretty much have the same girls working there (sometimes from our clubs work in the others)

    I find it a challenge and it gives me more motivation to work on my dancing techniques, video tape and see my face expressions (practice) and work on many different techniques of hustling.
    Try to see what makes me stand out even though i always have the whole room attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by La_Exotique
    I have the same dilema, i always walk out with crap.
    I had a sook at my husband complaining of what was going on because when i walk into the club i am a different person, i have my whole persona working for me.
    I AM (not being a big head here) the most physically attractive girl there.
    The problem is...the guys i go up to and ask for a dance always give [lame generic excuse here] no matter how interested in me they are, even the ones that seem to be having a great time just won't budge with the dances so i can't even work my way up to VIP BUT when some of the other girls go up to them it's almost instant, some girls get several VIP's and a shitload of dances in that working period and i'm always confused because I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG.
    I feel like i shouldn't blame them but it's definately not my fault, i work hard and play by the rules........and i will blame them because it doesn't take any special cat senses to sniff out a rat no matter how nice and good the girls seem.
    It's fustrating for me.

    I can't go to another club, i drive about 1 hour, stay in a hotel to go on Saturdays and work. The clubs around there are owned by the same guy and they pretty much have the same girls working there (sometimes from our clubs work in the others)

    I find it a challenge and it gives me more motivation to work on my dancing techniques, video tape and see my face expressions (practice) and work on many different techniques of hustling.
    Try to see what makes me stand out even though i always have the whole room attention.
    exactly me to a tee... Yeah the club i work at is a small regular type club.... it was hard at first to make money bc the girls there think they "own" some of the customers in there.. I have gone with the approach of talking to many guys and doing dances for a variety of people.... you can't always count on regulars coming in and giving you money... often times it takes a lot of work to call them and go out occasionally etc.. i don't need it or want it... I would try to stick it out for as long as you can.. .bc it will get better... And yes it sounds like there are extra activities going on as well... at my club as well.. it sucks but oh well.. At least we have class and stick to our morals.... Good luck girl... things will come around!

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    yesterday was FRIDAY (i work days) which is normally busy as hell, but i only had 50 dollars in my garter 5 and 1/2 freaking hours into my shift. normally i would have at least 150 or more. i had also been dealing with assholes all day and one guy who comes in and only dances with new girls (he used to dance with me a year ago) dropped a couple hundred on each of the other girls working so i was "girl with the least money" which, not to sound conceited, isn't normal for me and i was feeling kind of shitty. anyway, i tried to keep my spirits up and wound up making another 200 dollars in the last hour and 1/2 that i was at work. so don't ever give up and don't let the clock start to bring you down. it's not over till it's over.. not even when you only have an hour left. in fact i remember thinking "i'm not going to make my minimum goal of 200 today, not with an hour and 1/2 left, impossible" then i snapped out of it and i did it. granted, a regular came in -and- it got really busy at the same time, but still. also, you have to take the good with the bad. everyone, even the top earners in the club, has bad days. some of them just hide it well

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    Everyone has bad nights. On Monday I made 30 bucks. Last night started out VERY slow and I had very little tips and very little money at 12:30. It looked hopeless. I stayed motivatied and kept a smile and made a little over 300 dollars. Not bad for a super shitty friday! Sometimes no matter what, you will just have a bad night. Sometimes its just bad luck, bad custies, and bad timimg. You never what the night will bring though, so remember that and stay motivated.
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    Just generalizing here, but the 10s of the SC world have the added task of convincing the customers they're accessible, down to earth and fun. Some guys are intimidated by a "too hot" girl. They're putting you on a pedestal so high that they don't think you're reachable even in an environment where the customers get to choose. Or because of past rejections, they think all 10s are royal snots. Or they think because you're so hot, you won't work as hard for the money (not talking extras here, just the quality of the non-extras experience). I'm not saying this applies to anyone here, but we've all known supermodel types who think they can just phone it in, so guys are bound to stereotype from that.

    Some of the customers posting on this site who admit they've received extras claim they don't specifically go looking for extras. In other words, even some of the harder core customers are happy with a sizzling non-extras dance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yekhefah
    Welcome to California, Mischa. I don't know where you are, but it sounds like an extras club to me.
    Yekhefah you sound sooo negative about California. Yes I agree I've worked better places but I still make between 3-500 a shift. I don't have regulars and I don't do extras I think it's key here to have a great attitude and know how to hustle your ass off and stay motivated

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrookeBaden
    Yekhefah you sound sooo negative about California. Yes I agree I've worked better places but I still make between 3-500 a shift. I don't have regulars and I don't do extras I think it's key here to have a great attitude and know how to hustle your ass off and stay motivated
    I know it's hard NOT to be negative. I think places all over the country are bad right now but you just have to really research and try out different clubs here. It's not like you can walk into any SC and make good money. You have to find your niche and yes, like Brooke says, stay motivated and keep a smile on your face. You find that the more positive energy you put out, the more you get back. And when you start getting dances, you start attracting more money.

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    Thanks girls, your advice does make me feel A LOT better. I talked to a few of the girls in my club who are originally from Dallas and they were telling me that the money is GOOD out there. Does anyone know if this is true????

    I am thinking about going out there to try it next month. Perhaps like Yekefah says, it could be California. I am not the only girl at my club who is complaining about the difficulty of selling dances.

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    About the girls who are constantly whisking guys off to dances: at my club, lots of girls have what I'd call "semi-regulars," the guys who don't splash around enough cash to get mobbed by girls (or by their particular girl) as soon as they walk in the door, but who are always good for a dance or two from the girls who have treated them well in the past. A lot of guys don't always go for the same girl but will tend to stick with the girls they know well -- there's one guys who's in once or twice a week and has about 8-12 girls that he'll get dances from if they're in, so there's almost always two or three girls that he likes in on any given night that he stops by.
    I've got several of these by now, and it's funny because sometimes I'll wonder why my sales pitch worked so much easier and faster this time than usual, then I'll realize that I recognize this guy from a month or two ago, etc.

    They may also have a better quick-pitch than you do. Does that pitch include the insinuation of extras? I would be shocked (shocked!) and amazed (amazed!) if that weren't the case for some of them, but it's not necessarily the case for all of them.


    As far as guys who are "waiting for somebody," I'll ask who they're waiting for, if it's a dancer or waitress ask if she knows he's here, and if their body language isn't totally closed, ask "You wouldn't mind if I sat down to rest my feet for a moment, would you?" I'll then spend a couple minutes being beautiful and polite, make sure to mention my name a couple times, tell them to let me know if I can do anything to make their stay more enjoyable, then breeze off being beautiful. It won't get me a dance right away, but occasionally it plants the right seed so that if their ATF isn't in on a night they expected her or if they're just bored, they'll ask for me or get a dance when I stop by. It can never hurt, and it could always help.


    The holiday weekend is especially hard because the crowd is small or unusual (weird demographic, out-of-towners, etc) or both. But don't worry, you'll figure things out. And while you can't compete with extras girls on their turf, you can still hold your own with any girl in the club, it's just a case of figuring out the right angle to take.

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    Last night a guy gave me $100 just to sit with him for a few hours. He also bought me bottled water (don't drink alcho.) and I smoked his cigarettes. Never baught a dance.
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    ^^^ I hope it was a slow night.

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    I have learned to stop giving a crap about what other girls do and I make more money for it. The more you're in their business, the less you're doing about making YOUR money. Cali is slow, but every time I say that, there are girls doing 40-50 dances a night (and not only from regulars), so there's money to be made. I concentrate on ME and MY money, because they sure the hell aren't paying my bills with what they are making, so why worry about them?

    Put it this way: every minute that you're in the dressing room pouting or not in some way trying to get a dance, you're losing money. If you put your all in every minute that you are there at the end of the night, you'll be going home with the most that you possibly could. Not to mention that you will know that you did all you could have to make your money. It's the difference between a $100 night and a $500 night. Look at it as losing $400 or more and you'll start putting more effort in.

    I dont' care how bad the night is going, I ask EVERY guy and stay out of the dressing room unless I am freshening myself up or taking a minute to shake the negativity out of my head so I can get back out on the floor.

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    I think the weekend probably did have something to do with it. I just had my worst Friday ever at the club that I work at. The theory: all the decent normal guys who actually have lives are out and about going to festivals and parties and camping. Whose left? All the losers who have no friends and there only option is to go the strip club. Give it a week and see if you do better.

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    My club was UNBELIEVABLY slow tonight, but I still managed to get a VIP and some other dances, altogether a total of 26 dances. I'm not one of the top earners at my club, but I still manage to do pretty well. It's all about perserverence and finding that ONE guy (or two guys) that make your whole night. Keep going, don't take too many breaks, keep a smile on your face and you'll find him.
    Summer is bad for dancing though...maybe things will pick up mid-month.

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