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    ... I got totally jipped. Dudettes... Okay, so there are these guys up in the vip with no particuluar chick... and I do $120 worth of dances for one dude. When they're done, I notice his other three friends are gone. I get called up on stage and I tell the bouncer how much he owes me. Dude says that he thought I was just "being nice" and wouldn't pay up. Bouncer couldn't get him to... manager couldn't get him to... eventually kicked the bitches out... I wanted to get their plate number and call the police about drunk drivers... but I couldn't go outside in my outfit.

    AAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    that sux...im so sorry for u. hasnt happened to me yet (knock on wood)

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    Next time collect every 3 dances. But pfffft 'being nice' my ass working is not part of anyone 'being nice'. Being nice does not = work for free. What a douche he knew he was suppose to pay and didnt.
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    yea i wont go to vip unless i get paid for my time up front...that sux, sorry that happened to you!

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    Fuck yea he did! His firend was paying! His friend only did 3 dances though, and the girl said she had probs getting that outta HIM. I saw the "big cheese" asian dude later on and said, "I know this isn't ur problem, but..." and he was like, oh I don't really know that guy, my friends do. Then he gave me a little under 30 bucks. Then he went on and on about how much money he had... Then I asked him for a dance and he said he'd pay me for the dances but he didn't want them... Then... 15 minutes later I catch on and I ask him for the money... He gives me a twenty and asks me for a dance. I was like... %%*#@@#!!!
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    Ouch...I'm sorry that happened. =/ Hope you had a decent night anyway, at least. I also hope that when you say your bouncer 'couldnt get him to', you mean "(he punched his lights out and still) couldnt get him to".

    Once, when a guy almost stiffed me, our bouncer told me how he'd had to "choke out" a guy on crutches for trying to walk out on a $$$ tab.

    This almost happened to me yesterday. We dont have a VIP room, but we do have a lapdance 'area'. Guy got 8 dances from me in a row. I'm making sure to ask him every time if he wants another. We finish, and he starts counting out money then says "well I'll just give you everything =)" and hands me cash. I count, turns out to be $40! I tell him, slightly embarassed but moreso worried that I'm about to get gypped "uh we're up to $240 right now." So he says he has to go to the ATM to get it for me. Thank God the ATM is directly in front of the lapdance area.

    So I'm talking to another dancer while he's waiting in line to pull his money, and she tells me I'm probably not going to get my money, and next time to always get my money up front.

    Story has a happy ending though. He does pull out the money, pays me, and does so with a pleasant attitude. Goes back to his seat and he and his friends continue to spend money. Dont know what was up with the $40 stunt. Maybe because I told him I was new and wanted to see if he could get away with it?

    People told me to always get my money up front after that, but actually, in the long run, I think that would cost me more than it would save me. For example, the very next guy I danced for got 3 lapdances. If I had asked for the money first, he would have paid for one and most likely would have gotten 1. If I had asked for the money in between dances, he probably would have stopped at two at the most.

    Honestly, I think it's better to take the risk then it is to 'kill the mood' and quite possibly your chances for more dances. More often then not people are going to (or will be forced to) pay their tab.

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    BTW, the Asian guy gave me a pen while we were talking. Yes, I know... What's even funnier... I just started using it to make my grocery list and it's out of ink!! Hahahahahahaha.
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    that has happened to me before. the guy who did it was the owners friend, he ran out the back door, the police were called, they got him, but miraculously nothing happened.

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    It just forever amazes me no matter how long I have been on this board how the strip club culture in the USA is so against up-front payment whereas it is a given here in Australia. You can never get away with paying AFTER the dance here in Australia, it is all up-front not matter where you are in the country .... and girls can still do pretty damn well.

    Really... what is so WRONG with up-front payment?? I just can't get my head around it and thus I'm very very very thankful that the strip club culture here in Australia is one where up-front payment is the norm (and requirement).

    Guess what... you don't hear too many Australian SC dancers saying they were jipped.. how can we?! We get paid up-front for our time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bella21
    ... I got totally jipped. Dudettes... Okay, so there are these guys up in the vip with no particuluar chick... and I do $120 worth of dances for one dude. When they're done, I notice his other three friends are gone. I get called up on stage and I tell the bouncer how much he owes me. Dude says that he thought I was just "being nice" and wouldn't pay up. Bouncer couldn't get him to... manager couldn't get him to... eventually kicked the bitches out... I wanted to get their plate number and call the police about drunk drivers... but I couldn't go outside in my outfit.

    AAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    How come so many girls get jipped? I never had a customer be an ass about paying up or not paying me at all.. I've been dancing for almost 1 1/2 maybe I haven't been dancing long enough.. makes me appreciate the club i work in and the customers that go there..

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldCoastGirl
    Really... what is so WRONG with up-front payment??
    Harlequinn answered this one perfectly:

    Quote Originally Posted by harlequinn
    People told me to always get my money up front after that, but actually, in the long run, I think that would cost me more than it would save me. For example, the very next guy I danced for got 3 lapdances. If I had asked for the money first, he would have paid for one and most likely would have gotten 1. If I had asked for the money in between dances, he probably would have stopped at two at the most.

    Honestly, I think it's better to take the risk then it is to 'kill the mood' and quite possibly your chances for more dances. More often then not people are going to (or will be forced to) pay their tab.
    Girls who have worked in Austrailia will have to comment, but I do think there is a slight difference in the way a lap dance is sold in Austrailia versus North America. Don't you guys sell dances that cost like $50-70 but generally last like 15 minutes? Up here its more like $10-40, but each dance is only 2-4 minutes. So one Austrailian lap dance is more or less the equivalant of 4-6 dances here.

    Really the bigger annoyance with upfront payment isn't so much the "upfront" part, its the frequency with which the customer would have to reach into his wallet should he want multiple dances. This isn't so big a deal if he only has to do it four times an hour, but at 15-20 times an hour it can get quite problematic.

    As for why not just pay the whole tab upfront to avoid this problem? Well, the customer often has no upfront knowledge of how many dances he will eventually end up buying, and the mood the dancer puts him in is a big determinant between a small sum and a big one. Many times, I've had gals stretch what I figured would be 2-3 dances into 6 or more.
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    Ugh, that sucks. What is really pathetic is when a customer will say shit like, "Oh, I see, it's all about the MONEY with you. You didn't do this because you CARE about me?" which is not only highly delusional, but insanely rude to proclaim to someone on their JOB.

    I've had several melodramatic incidents where people repeatedly acted "shocked" and said they "didn't have the money" (even though I always asked them after every song if they're keeping track, informing them, ad nauseam) so I now take money upfront. And incidents where people tried to screw out of the club before I got a chance to count the correct amount, which didn't go to well for them.

    Sorry that happened to you hun. People are just arrogant and cheap.

    Edited to add: Well, the main reason I haven't asked for money in the past, is because a lot of guys are put off by spending large amounts of money before they sample the wares, so to speak, and it tends to interupt the positive flow when you constantly remind them to empty their wallets, and stifles the illusion that you're actually trying to "please" them. I tend to have better luck selling multiple dances when I don't ask for money constantly, which feeds into their pretense that they're actually important, which in turn encourages them to ask for more dances.
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    Yeah, it's weird because I see this happen a lot on here but I've been dancing for about five years and have never been jipped out of my cash by a customer. I HAVE been jipped out of cash by clubs a few times. I haven't really ever seen any girls at clubs I've worked at jipped by customers, either.

    Also, this may be taking a major risk, but when I get back to the VIP room and see my customer rummaging through his wallet for the 35 bucks for the dance, I always say to him "Oh, don't worry--you can pay me after the dance. That way, if you hate it, you can run away. But beware! I run pretty fast in these heels!" with a wink and a smile.
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    I have always gotten paid up front and thankfully so but last night I didn't and it totally worked to my advantage. My customer knew how much it was per hour and we ended up spending 3 hours together. I honestly think that if at each hour I would've said "well, it's been an hour, do you want to go for another hour?" I think it really would've killed the mood and wouldn't have gotten 3 hours. At the end he paid me in full plus a little extra. I try to go on my guy instinct and I had a good feeling from him that he'd pay me, plus he tipped well on the table dance before we went to VIP and tipped the shooter girl really well too. But normally, I'd expect payment up front. I guess it depends on if you know the customer, if the club knows the customer and your gut feeling.

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