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    There is a thread going in Hustle Hut about the benefits of dancers acting dumb (Dumb & Ditzy). There have been several threads along that line in the last couple years.

    What do customers and dancers think about this?

    For my two cents, I can't stand the dumb act. Either the dancer actually is smart, in which case it feels fake, or she really is dumb, which is pretty boring.

    The smart dancer acting dumb is probably the worst, IMHO. I want to feel good about myself in a club, and a smart dancer putting on an act sends me a message that she doesn't respect me -- that she doesn't think I can handle a dancer who has both beauty and brains. In fact, a smart beautiful polished dancer is the best -- classy and willing to be as real as one can get in an SC hustle.

    What do others think?

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    I hate it when a customer is trying to "sniff out" the dumb act and accuses me of playing dumb. There have been a couple of instances where this has happened and it really pisses me off...and it makes me go away.

    I don't play dumb, but sometimes if I ask questions, people think that's I'm doing it...another reason why I just prefer to dance and keep my mouth shut these days.

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    Well, as a partcipant of that thread, I did mention that you can turn on the brains once the meter is running....if that's what the guy likes. There are ways to gauge this too. Sometimes I'll say, "I lived most of my life in Las Vegas and went to school in Massachusetts before coming here." If they don't ask about school, then I see what I'm dealing with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily
    Well, as a partcipant of that thread, I did mention that you can turn on the brains once the meter is running....if that's what the guy likes. There are ways to gauge this too. Sometimes I'll say, "I lived most of my life in Las Vegas and went to school in Massachusetts before coming here." If they don't ask about school, then I see what I'm dealing with.
    Fair enough. And you also said that dumbing it down works for you, which is one of the things that got me curious. I'm just one customer, and you see hundreds. Hopefully I would be one of the ones where you would recalibrate.

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    Some guys want to feel like the big men, some want to have someone to talk to on their level and some just want us to talk.. I like the third, haha
    I want to entertain, unfortunately it is a big no no to ask them how they want us to act, but hey, what can you do, right? Just try and read how they want to be treated and go from there.
    Last night I watched a guy looking bored with his hands behind his head and leaning back, his friend was engaged in convo with another dancer. I walk up to bored guy and ask to sit, he's sees my drink in hand and says he's glad he doesn't have to buy me one. I asked if he was really that jaded, he laughed and said yes so I poked a little fun at strip clubs and how my club is making work at both of the ones owned in town and I just love it ha ha. He tells me now I am acting jaded. Long story short, he asked me for the dance, received two and seemed to all around enjoy his time with me. I didn't try to sell him, but I didn't try to overpower him either. It works.
    Like I said, some guys like the dumbed down act, then we seem sweet and some actually like the sob stories (ew), makes them feel useful. Whatever it is, we are entertainers after all.
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    Dumb, whether real or faked, is a huge turn-off for me...

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    You should see the look of horror on some guys faces when they hear how I graduated school early and was secretary to the dean.. some guys (obviously not all) want to live in the fantasy world that we only exist in the club to enjoy their company. They actually look disapointed when they find out that I don't work every single day.
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    Yeah, I don't know if it's just the customers at my club or something. I used to do really well being my educated, classy self, but these days I mention grad school and a big wall goes up. I think they're threatened by it. Can't hurt to try something different.

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    well, I don't act like a blithering idiot, just a little ditzy. And it's not so much to try to fit into a particular mold of what I think guys want, but more just so it's easier to get from point A ("hi") to point B ("wanna dance?")

    I also think it's like the natural vs. fake debate. You will fnd guys that absolutely hate fake tits, but we're watching the saline beauties raking it in without really trying. And like big boobs, airheadedness won't be enough, but it helps to get the momentum movnig in the right direction!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsy_girlchild
    You should see the look of horror on some guys faces when they hear how I graduated school early and was secretary to the dean.. some guys (obviously not all) want to live in the fantasy world that we only exist in the club to enjoy their company. They actually look disapointed when they find out that I don't work every single day.
    Or how about when they ask you if you are going to school (or went) and you say yes and then they don't believe you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsy_girlchild
    I want to entertain, unfortunately it is a big no no to ask them how they want us to act, but hey, what can you do, right?
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    I don't know -- could be kind of interesting. How do you like your naked dancer? Should we talk about Judge Judy or Piero della Francesca?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily
    well, I don't act like a blithering idiot, just a little ditzy.
    LOL! I find it a lot easier to get dances if I act more on the "ditzy" side but I'm not sure if the total-dolt act would work. I avoid unnecessary talking/discussions unless I know that the guy is paying me to talk.. also mentioning "geeky" things often gets me blank looks :\ A lot of my customers seem too drunk to talk to so I just act all happy/cute and it seems to work in obtaining $ (which is what I'm there for).

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    Ditzy doesnt work for me beyond the amusement value. If a dancer is attractive, intelligent and gives me the vibes that she will provide good entertainment ROI, I'm willing to give it a try and go from there. She doesnt need to hide the fact that she has a brain. My fav is working on her Phd!

    I suspect the actress game works well in clubs where there is a high turnover of customers and not so well in clubs where dancers see many of the same guys week after week. At some point, the dancers brain (or lack thereof) will become obvious. Along with her other baggage and drama

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    It's not "dumb" so much as, "I am very single-mindedly hell-bent on having nothing but fun."

    I used to be one of those girls who would get sick of having men assume I was dumb and try to change their minds about stripper stereotypes or whatever... which was, far from being an act, actually just a really dumb work habit on so many levels I cringe just thinking about it.

    I guess it's a fine balance...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FBR
    I suspect the actress game works well in clubs where there is a high turnover of customers and not so well in clubs where dancers see many of the same guys week after week. At some point, the dancers brain (or lack thereof) will become obvious. Along with her other baggage and drama

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    Exactly!

    If I'm in a club for a while and about to leave, a ditzy girl can sell me two dances just to whet the appetite.

    Naive works sort of well for the chivalrous types. But if you act naive, then sell the dance like you're pushing your limits. If you read that the customer is chivalrous, the naive act can hook-em by doing a couple of moves which leaves some of her more exposed to touching than the experienced dancers would.

    But the best is to sell a semi-confident, smart woman who is really interested in the customer. Not too confident and over-bearing (you'll come off as stupid), but intelligent, inquisitive, and genuinely interested in the guy. Act like you sort of understand the interesting point the customer is trying to make, but not quite. He'll think you're damn smart for being able to understand and empathize with him to a certain level, but he'll look forward to coming back to you another day to continue the relationship.


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    Ditzy backfired for me on many occasions. I can act the part, and do so convincingly, but the boys seem to like it better when I'm just me. I'm sarcastic, biting and I call them on their stupid comments. I've also got the most regulars of any girl in my club. I've come to the conclusion that (stripping or OTC), guys like the bitch, even more so the intelligent bitch.

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    all i can say is this...

    despite my constantly using lower case letters (it's a weird "thing") i am -believe it or not- fairly smart. i'm a mostly straight A student (always been a dork) and i hold a conversation very well. i can honestly say that i have lost MANY dances due to being the "smart girl". i -swear- that acting dumb (for the customers that come across as liking that) makes me more money. i'm still myself to the guys i know.. and to those who seem egar to talk to someone who thinks about more than if their eyeshadow is appropriate for the current season. i learned quickly though, that plenty of guys DO NOT care for smart girls.

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    Looks like ditzy is not so popular with the customers on SW, but works well with a lot of "lesser" guys :-) . Maybe not too surprising, given that guys who want to spend time on these threads are probably doing it because they like the dancers they get to talk to as people.

    Must be challenging to make a quick judgment about a guy and adjusting accordingly. I am impressed with the dancers who can do that sucessfully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by casaubon1
    Looks like ditzy is not so popular with the customers on SW, but works well with a lot of "lesser" guys :-) . Maybe not too surprising, given that guys who want to spend time on these threads are probably doing it because they like the dancers they get to talk to as people.

    Must be challenging to make a quick judgment about a guy and adjusting accordingly. I am impressed with the dancers who can do that sucessfully.
    Wow, I liked this response!
    I like the SW custies, but the ones I meet in the club that have similar perosnalities are few and far between..
    And the adjustment, is VERY difficult, we have to read body language, voice response and just the general attitude.. If I can't get a guy to talk or seem interested I ask why did the redneck think he had an STD? The answer, he was allergic to wool.. I f he doesn't laugh, it's a lost cause and I ususally ask for a dance to end the convo and walk off to meet someone else who enjoys thajoke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rozz
    Ditzy backfired for me on many occasions. I can act the part, and do so convincingly, but the boys seem to like it better when I'm just me. I'm sarcastic, biting and I call them on their stupid comments. I've also got the most regulars of any girl in my club. I've come to the conclusion that (stripping or OTC), guys like the bitch, even more so the intelligent bitch.
    i agree! Any guy with half a brain in his head appreicates a woman who is not only pretty, but can actually hold a conversation about something OTHER than how much she loves sex or what drugs she took that day! And if you have a quick wit..enough to call them on their BS and can banter intellegently...THATS fun!

    Of course it doesnt always work. Sometimes I have to dumb myself down because the guy is such and idiot that unless I talk down on his level he doesnt understand a word I say! Or sometimes after having a great conversation the guy pulls something like "well...I feel like we're friends now...you're too smart to take your clothes off for money so I cant get a dance with you".GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsy_girlchild
    I ask why did the redneck think he had an STD? The answer, he was allergic to wool.. I f he doesn't laugh, it's a lost cause
    LOL -- still chuckling as I type . . .

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    Maybe we should stop talking and just point to the VIP room.. I knew one girl that would take a guys hand and say, you are coming with me and he followed and then once in the room he had no choice but to get a dance.. Then again she was a mixed American Indian and Caucasian supper hottie, lucky chickie..
    I have tried it a few times and it's worked, but I always worried that the guy might say no.. Oh, I hate no.
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    I love that joke. I wish I'd known it last night... a couple old guys from New Zealand came into my club and while they were kind of fun to talk to, they were being quite cheap and stereotypical Kiwis. Sheepfucking is a Kiwi stereotype and I wish I'd been able to tell them that joke, with "Kiwi" instead of "redneck." At least *I* would've gotten a laugh out of it.

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    oh, it's my fave.. I once told it to two custies separately. They had come in together, but I was only sitting with one. He didn't laugh so I leaned over to his friend and told it to him. He cracked up and I sat with him.. At first he told me he didn't want to anger his friend by my leaving him, I told him his friend didn't seem interested, he he..
    The new guy was awesome and I wish I hadn't wasted time on his grumpy friend.
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    I almost never get the ditzy girl routine played on me. Maybe I look like I'm smart, who knows?

    When a gal who isn't too bright or is pretending not to be walks up and starts on the sale, one of two things will happen:

    If she doesn't interest me, it's an automatic 'next'. I can't be bothered trying to figure out if you are for real or not. On the odd night, when I feel like messing with people, I may say something, but not usually.

    If she is interesting, then she gets called out on it immediately. I do it in such a way as to make it clear than I'm smart. If she's acting, she usually drops the act because she realizes it won't work. If she's actually not too bright, that comes out right away too. That gets a 'next'.

    I do not enjoy talking to someone who can't carry on a conversation. I know it sounds harsh, but that's just the way I am.

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