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    Why do non strippers hate strippers

    There are alot of close minded people who hate on strippers who are not doing so bad in life. Why is that? You can't believe the hype. This goes out to all you ladies that get offended by us because we are confident enough in our bodies and ourselves to show it off and sell it for lap dances and VIP rooms.
    It takes strength to do what we do. Not too many people can withstand the pressure and be very successful with. I have been a dancer for nine years. If I did not do as well as I do I would not do this anymore. I got use to the money. Dancing is a good job to have even now but it takes skill.

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    I don't think it has really anything to do with strippers vs. nonstrippers. I think it is just in human nature to fear or despise that which we do not understand (or were brought up learning to hate, in the 50's it was the "commies").


    Promote yourself and earn more money! This is a business that is owned by strippers for strippers. Let's make that money!


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    I think they see dancing as a cop-out. And maybe it is.

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    I think it boils to pure jealousy.They wish they had the looks/bodies/confidence/attention we get.That is why we are copied repeatedly.From the stripper workout tapes,to lingerie,makeup and grooming,body modification,pole lessons,etc. If we are so bad they wouldnt copy and mimic us.Deep down all of them want a taste of what we do.Whether its to look like us,have mens attention,act like us or to just be exhibitionists etc.
    Another thing I think they fear us because they are afraid and are a threat in their minds because of their men (bf's & husbands)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily
    I think they see dancing as a cop-out. And maybe it is.
    For some dancers, it is a cop-out. They are too lazy or unmotivated to find another way to make a living, they hate stripping, and they become bitter about their entire lives. Therefore, dancing only serves as a way to evade finding a path in life that will fulfill them, until eventually they quit.

    For some dancers, stripping is very fulfilling, and they dance for many years.

    There are a lot of paths people take in life that could be considered "cop-outs." However, I think it is the sexual nature of this business that is targeted by haters. People don't go around telling a woman who married a man with a high-paying job that she copped-out.

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    yes, people do tell such women who marry a rich husband that she's copped out, is a golddigger, etc.

    stripping is a copout because it doesn't pay residuals and you cannot do it indefinitely. it can be fun for a college educated woman to make good money working relatively fewer hours than at her prior straight job(s) table dancing, but she can't do that forever. for every superhot 45 year old that can compete with dancers half her age, there are plenty who cannot, but still try.

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    Not really, not in my experience. That would be incredibly insultive and rude - unless of course, the woman was solely marrying the man to be supported.

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    In addition to the jealousy factor, there are a lot of people who hate strippers because they feel that they are "immoral sinners", blah blah blah, etc.

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    Honestly - this might seem extreme to some readers out there - but I really feel like there is a huge streak of misogynic thought in this country. Andrea Dworkin (yes I know she is an extreme feminist) said, "Feminists are hated because women are hated. Anti-feminism is a direct expression of misogyny; it is the political defense of women hating."

    It's not just men who hate women. Women hate other women, too.

    I think that people hate strippers because they hate women, especially sexual women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinup Girl
    Honestly - this might seem extreme to some readers out there - but I really feel like there is a huge streak of misogynic thought in this country. Andrea Dworkin (yes I know she is an extreme feminist) said, "Feminists are hated because women are hated. Anti-feminism is a direct expression of misogyny; it is the political defense of women hating."

    It's not just men who hate women. Women hate other women, too.

    I think that people hate strippers because they hate women, especially sexual women.

    Word. I think the most irritating thing is that a lot of these anti-stripper, anti-sexuality women argue that they can't be called mysogynistic (sp?) because they're not men!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinup Girl
    Honestly - this might seem extreme to some readers out there - but I really feel like there is a huge streak of misogynic thought in this country. Andrea Dworkin (yes I know she is an extreme feminist) said, "Feminists are hated because women are hated. Anti-feminism is a direct expression of misogyny; it is the political defense of women hating."

    It's not just men who hate women. Women hate other women, too.

    I think that people hate strippers because they hate women, especially sexual women.

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    It also doesn't help when some strippers act in ways that are just plain wrong. I know of girls in my club who pickpocket the customers or rip them off by saying that the guy gave her a 20 when it was really a hundred dollar bill. There are bad people in every job but things like this can't possibly help others perception of strippers. A lot of customers think we're all single mothers with drug problems who will lie and steal to get ahead. Other than that there's the whole jealousy thing since its supposedly so easy and anybody can do it.

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    well, unless you create relatively constrained environments for expression of sexuality for pay, sexwork will be a contributing factor to the breakdown of relations between men and women.

    younger women behave like strippers, but for free, and then are surprised that they find it difficult to garner male sexual respect. strippers want genpop to consider their work the same as any other job, but also want to make significantly more than any other job even though stripping doesn't require much to do pretty well at that young girls don't learn before age 15 these days.

    i mean, you are selling intimacy (that supposedly should only occur between people in committed relationships) for money and there's surprise that stigma occurs? it is very difficult to integrate sexwork into the social fabric without creating some kind of stigma/penalty for the ones doing it. and their reward is a lot of money for doing what 'good women' must not do. if you try to crush this tradition, you end up with much of the stigma and a lot less money. which would be where we are in the present day.

    i don't know where to go from there, but i can look at historical tradition and not be surprised that stripping/sexwork is still not fully accepted and that it may in fact be a bad idea to ever let it reach that point.

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    pinkkitten, anyone can do it, but in the not too distant past, relatively few women WOULD do it. now that more and more women accept the stigma for the large amount of cash, there's less cash (and somewhat less stigma).

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    You know, miabella, that is a really good point. If women did not have to feel shameful about being sexual in our society - even if it's an act like it often is in the club - then strip clubs would probably not even exist in the form that they do. It makes me wonder if it's a trade-off: we make more money, but many people look down on us. Another point, however, is that we make the money we do because people are willing to pay for our services. I'm not sure if we are paid more just because people are willing to pay, or there is some added level of compensation for the unpleasantness of the work. But you're right - if stripping was totally accepted in society then everyone would do it and the money would be gone.

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    An important part of this job is making it look easy. We all know it's not easy because we do it, but the rest of the world thinks we just take our clothes off and people throw zillions at us just for getting naked. Of course people who see themselves as working hard to get ahead and making sacrifices will resent those who (they perceive) make more for less work, especially when they lack the guts to take that route themselves.

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    I still don't believe that anyone and everyone who is female can do it. It takes hard work to be in shape and actually look presentable naked. People who are obese or more than a little overweight couldn't get hired in all but the very worse clubs. Sometimes I get jealous of people in regular jobs that can actually eat whatever regarless of how fattening while I have to make sure to eat healthy and stay in shape. The activity level is higher than the majority of sedentary jobs. Not to mention the effort needed to keep hair, nails, makeup done and body hair removed and things that I wouldn't even think about if I didn't dance. It also isn't the easiet thing in the world to walk and dance in platforms. So I guess anybody who fits the physical criteria could do it technically, but that doesn't mean they would actually be successful at making money. Getting people to be willing to pay for what people will do for free at a regular club is hard work. On a separate note, I think it's completely unfair that young women that want to act like strippers for free are less stigmatized than real strippers. I mean, society seems to not completely hate college girls getting naked for free at parties and having sex with countless men but if you are to actually take your clothes off for a living it's so horrible. Which makes me think the money does play a big factor in society's dislike for strippers.

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    i know plenty of overweight girls being hired and working in midscale clubs. hardly 'the very worst'. let's be quite honest and admit that there are many more clubs, many more girls, and that standards to be a stripper are quite low overall. there wouldn't be so much bitching on these forums about how fat/ugly/plain/etc girls bank if being really really attractive and 'toned' were requirements in the vast majority of clubs.

    also, society loathes the women getting naked for free at college parties. there's no respect for that choice, at least not among men. it's a different kind of stigma, though it is less than that which sexworkers get.

    sexworkers sell intimacy for money. that is why they are stigmatized and to an extent rewarded for that stigma. other women could do it, but choose not to. to those women, the stigma-pay isn't worth it. it takes guts to make money without relying on social stigma to provide your pay-raise.

    the people who think it's easy to be a stripper are missing the point as badly as the strippers who think it takes a special talent to do the work. Strippers get paid to simulate or actually provide intimacy for money and be thought poorly of for doing so. no more, no less.

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    When I was researching a paper on prostitution, I read something about how society groups women into two classes - the social class and the whore class. One group gets respect but no freedom, and the other gets freedom but no respect. We make a trade either way.

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    A special talent is definately not needed and some men do prefer chubby or just palin ugly chicks. Oh well. I didn't mean society as a whole respects people that do it for free. I meant that the girls that do it for free sometimes are the first to look down on strippers. I was on a college campus for the past 4 yrs. I noticed these things. As for society as a whole, I am utterly clueless about how they react to me dancing whether for free of for money. Most of the time I get dirty looks from women simply for existing. I don't talk about my job as I walk around the mall and they have no way of knowing but it just happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yekhefah
    When I was researching a paper on prostitution, I read something about how society groups women into two classes - the social class and the whore class. One group gets respect but no freedom, and the other gets freedom but no respect. We make a trade either way.
    Wow, that is certainly a good point! Well put!

    As for the thread topic... They feel threatened. They WANT to believe the stereotypes because it makes them feel better about being threatened... or jealous... or whatever you want to call it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miabella
    Strippers get paid to simulate or actually provide intimacy for money and be thought poorly of for doing so. no more, no less.
    If that were entirely true, we'd all make the same money. We ALSO get paid for honing our selling skills and maintaining our looks; hence, some of us make more money than others

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    Why do non strippers hate strippers?...



    Why should we as strippers care?

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    Why hate sex workers?

    Jealousy, ignorance, puritanical views towards sexuality, etc.

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    plain and blunt--- bitches are jealous!

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